I've got a mobile mechanic coming to VAG com (equivalent) it Tuesday morning, so I'll get an idea of what might be up with it. £35 for the first hour of diagnosis/work.

Best get the battery topped up.

Considering Fellys are from 12 to 7 years old and they're first or second generation emmission control engined cars, I think they do pretty well. Mine;s 12 years old and ythis is the first off the road breakdown I've had with it in the 3.5 years I've had it (and I'm not very good to cars really...) so I'd say get a late one (Or one that's had all the major stuff repaired/replaced.

Diesels are great when they're running, tho even more expensive when they break - the injector pump anyway).

How u doing? Im still waiting for the solution here!!!

I guess your still doing the same since no update in a while but. Im getting abit nervous about getting a felicia because of all the problems with them not starting, ecu blown and etc here on this forum. Guessing its not the same problem with the diesel?

They are generally reliable - most of the posts you will see here are people with the odd issue.

I have had Felicia's for years and i have found them very good (don't want to tempt fate - touch's table made of wood!) The most common problems are leaky front screens, sunroofs, and poor servicing. The temperature sensor on the thermostat can be a pain too.

I would recommend them - in fact I have a couple of mates who have bought one after trying them out after a recommendation from me!! I should be on commission from Skoda:cool:

Psyzygy where about in the East Mids are you? You mention Ilkeston earlier if you are that area I know a great Skoda independant if you get it moving or trailered.

I must say im scared by all this electronics. I have had one car for all my life:

An Audi Gt coupe from 82 with a bulletproof mechanical injection! No worry about ECU blowing etc. Its the best car i ever had. Great performance. Amazing ride and i just love them.

But because of school the GT (and audi v8 quattro) is getting put away and instead im getting a skoda felicia pickup to travel to and from school each weekend.

Im 99.9% certainly buying the skoda felly fun in my avartar picture. Its a 98 . Done about 130 000 km. Is this a hot object for problems?

1.6 mpi. Ive read about the thermostat housing. Not the biggest deal. Thats mechanical. Easy and cheaper.

But im afraid of getting into the game with blowing expencive ecu's and hall sensors etc. Time consuming and dangerous when im gonna be spending a lot of time on the road without access to a place to work on it.

But with a little luck and a little work in advance i hope i can keep from getting a lot of work in breakdowns.

But dont misunderstand me. I can work on cars. But for me its easier maybe to convert the car to carbs or change the whole engine instead of playing and fiddeling with electric components.

And back to the owner of the thread:!!

I hope he can help you without blowing your budget!

Hi Zachry,

Probably hijacking Psyzygy's thread, I hope he doesn't mind - it has potential to develop into an inofficial Felly owners' Off Topic and Chit Chat thread...

130 000 km isn't much for the 1.6 engine in Felicia/Fun. But high time to get a new cambelt if it hasn't been done earlier!!!

And as richardsfavorit said: Forums like this could frighten anyone because people only post when they have problems - you don't write just to say that your car started as usual this morning. If Norway is like Sweden I guess you see Felicias, Formans and Funs rolling everywhere, with healthy ecu's, hall sensors, throttle bodies and so on.

Leaky windscreens, rusty front dampers (the spring platforms), loose nut (5th gear cogwheel) - there are a few classic problems. But not more than on any other car of the same age.

Just stay around and there will be a lot of people ready to help you with your problems when they arise!

Psyzygy where about in the East Mids are you? You mention Ilkeston earlier if you are that area I know a great Skoda independant if you get it moving or trailered.

I live in Nottingham and if I can get it going, then it's job done

The guy coming tomorrow will hopefully be able to tell me what to replace/repair myself and if it is the ECU then it's probably just about worth biting the bullet and getting it repaired (I'll make a fiver on the 2nd hand one I got off the scrapper :P).

The name of the Skoda place would be very helpful too please

Hi Zachry,

Probably hijacking Psyzygy's thread, I hope he doesn't mind - it has potential to develop into an inofficial Felly owners' Off Topic and Chit Chat thread...

130 000 km isn't much for the 1.6 engine in Felicia/Fun. But high time to get a new cambelt if it hasn't been done earlier!!!

And as richardsfavorit said: Forums like this could frighten anyone because people only post when they have problems - you don't write just to say that your car started as usual this morning. If Norway is like Sweden I guess you see Felicias, Formans and Funs rolling everywhere, with healthy ecu's, hall sensors, throttle bodies and so on.

Leaky windscreens, rusty front dampers (the spring platforms), loose nut (5th gear cogwheel) - there are a few classic problems. But not more than on any other car of the same age.

Just stay around and there will be a lot of people ready to help you with your problems when they arise!

That's alright And :iagree: abot the problem aspect, no news is good news!

And as richardsfavorit said: Forums like this could frighten anyone because people only post when they have problems - you don't write just to say that your car started as usual this morning.

:iagree: although I guess forums like ****roen one's get people with more car problems

P.S. Will this 5th gear cog nut problem stop it getting a spark?

UPDATE!

In order to cover the cost of a £9000 (yes, £9k! :eek:) piece of Bosch software which also costs £600 pa to update, along with a bluetooth connection & Asus laptop, I've decided to sell my body

Actually, I might have to do that to cover the £65 it cost to find out it's the ENGINE TEMP SENSOR!!! Reading -49.7 Celsius connected or disconnected.

Recommended to check both wires from the sensor to ECU for circuit and earth first before condemning the sensor itself.

So an engine temp sensor fault CAN create an ignition fault to the point of no spark.

It did also flag the Hall sender, so I will be working bearing that in mind, though as I swapped that out for a new one and it didn't run it's likely that the ECU flags it because of the no spark situation.

Mind you, remembering that the green coil return wire was open circuit and the temp sensor is open circuit, maybe the Hall sender is open circuit too... All of which would point to a loom fault.

Time for some more testing but first I'm going to take my daughters lunch to school because she forgot it!

So there's some light at the end of the tunnel at last? Let's hope for the best!

BTW, does this mean that a Felly will never start if temperature goes below - 49 Celsius?

It would seem so, or if the wire to the temp sensor is broken

Now I'm recharging my battery, I could push the car down the hill to start it but I'm afraid that if that didn't start it, I'd leave it there

I'll get round to crimping, vaselining & taping over the join (one day ). For now it's a bit of chocky-block :P

To think, I threatened to test all the loom connections early last week & apathy got the better of me

If it's a starter when the battery's back in, the drinks are on me in Mr Grumpy's Afternoon Drinking Club

Good luck....

I live in Nottingham and if I can get it going, then it's job done

The name of the Skoda place would be very helpful too please

You have PM mention my name or my blue Fabia estate he will know me

I had a day off yesterday after my repair didn't work. I think I'm going to have to re-connect the green ign wire in case there;s something in it (a diode or something was mentioned as a possibility) and the Hall sender.

The coolant sensor on its own wouldn't knock the motor out (and it looks like that wire's been on it's way out for a while, yet a combination of that & the Hall going would more than likely prevent the ECU from restarting even with a replacement Hall sender.

That and test all the other loom connections!

More fun :ironicgrin:

Aw, that's really frustrating. A pound of TNT and then a "final spark" comes to mind as a tempting solution - after which you of course should get a car with a proper carb. Oh, the joy trying to adjust twin Zenith Stromberg carbs

But since you noticed my post count yesterday - when looking at yours and comparing our dates of joining Briskoda you'll beat me before Christmas - thanks to the lost spark. That must be a consolation

Always look at the bright side of life

@ "Final spark"

Well I've re-connected the green ign wire & that has a circuit, the engine temp sensor wire has a circuit, I've put the "new" Hall sender in it (How on earth does the flying lead come off that bracket :confused:) so now I'm probably going to run the battery down getting it started.

Fingers crossed!

One flattened battery later... :confused:

How many relays go "click" and when do they do it when starting a Felly 1.3 SPi? (I have one that clicks when the ign is turned on & another when the starter is turned.)

Do fault codes get cleared when the ECU is disconnected?

This is so SO frustrating!

Sounds like this is getting irritating!

lets focus here..engine needs 3 things to run

you get starter engaging to spin the lump.

Do you have fuel?are the sparkplugs wet?

Do you have spark?

What about the air intake?

I am wondering if this is a fuel problem.

Is your fuel system depressurised? Basically if your fuel pump relay is knackered then it will run for 30 seconds or so before no fuel coming through. I would have another look at this and check that your relay hasn't bust

Wot about squirting WD40 all over the place, well HT stuff and up the efin air intake works lots of times for me. Usually last minute as well.

OK!

I think I've been approaching this all wrong.

The first check is always for spark and there was no spark. (I have not rechecked this since reconnecting the broken coolant temp sensor wire.)

There WAS fresh fuel in the throttle body when I first started working on it (and it had stood a day from when it broke down to checking this after trying to start it again).

The difficulty I have in diagnosing the problem is that the fuel & ign systems are integrated along with the emission control and that Haynes says: "Take it to a garage" at whatever point I get to in figuring it out. I got a garage to come to me and he diagnosed the coolant temp sensor - fixed and the Hall sender - replaced. I think I'm probably "owed" a phone call to him for more advice seeing as his info hasn't got me anywhere yet.

I'll recheck the spark & fuel situations when I am next able.

Thanks for your support & suggestions

any luck with this yet?