hi

theres an email going round once again telling us to buy fuel only on certain days of the week in the hope of forcing a price reduction at the pumps..

A few weeks ago Jeremy Clarkson said fuel wasn't expensive! and made the interesting comment that at around £1 a litre, when you consider the manufacturing involved it's not expensive and as the bulk of the litre price is tax anyway it makes it even cheaper. Does he make a good point here.. Bottled water costs more and I can't think of any liquid I can buy thats cheaper than £1 per litre?

Anyone any thoughts

C

well if you consider what we pay per litre, Americans pay per GALLON, I'd say yes, it is expensive

also, my local Saver's I can buy 3 litres of water (good stuff, too) for 99p, I'd love petrol/diesel to be that cheap!

You need to weigh up things like production and distribution costs of a product, bottled water sounds like more of a rip off than petrol as it's more or less sucked out of the ground and stuck straight in a bottle.

If they did that with petrol you would end up with some gunky old crude at the pumps (aka diesel )

Considering the costs of transporting oil around the globe, cracking, refinement and final distribution to petrol stations it's better value than bottled water.

Think how much the oil rigs, refineries, super tankers and underground pipes cost to install, build and run? A darn site more than a Buxton bottling plant I would imagine

Take the tax off petrol and it isn't that expensive, the retailer makes bugger all. It's just our government doing the damage to fuel prices.

well if you consider what we pay per litre, Americans pay per GALLON, I'd say yes, it is expensive

But lots of things are cheaper in the US - and typically wages are lower too, and taxation is fairly different (no NHS to prop up, for example). IMHO you can't really compare the UK to the US on one commodity alone...

Rob.

its the tax thats the expensive bit,on no other liquid do the government add 65% in tax,we ae being robbed

The oil companies still make millions and millions (billions?) in profits, my guess is if the tax was cut in half tomorrow the price at the pump wouldn't reflect the whole reduction in tax, but would stay higher to increase profits for retailer and those already very profitable oil companies.

i bought some super from a local total garage and didn't think to look before putting it into the car and then noticed it was 110.9!!!!

at my local tesco a week or two ago super and diesel cost the same at 107.9 and regular was "only" 103.9

:( :( :( :( :(

The annoying thing was.. my dad was watching a old TV series (All quiet on the preston front) a few days ago.. it ran from 1994 until 1997. - and there was a mention of petrol prices... 48.9 for diesel and 49.9 for petrol :eek:

so the price per litre has doubled in 10 years... :thumbdwn: i cant say ive noticed my salary double tho

Our local TV news were broadcasting a story about petrol exceding the £1 barrier but were obviously using old footage from an Esso petrol station as a backdrop to the story with 84.9p and 87.9p per litre for unleaded and diesel respectively in the stations hoardings!!

The oil companies still make millions and millions (billions?) in profits, my guess is if the tax was cut in half tomorrow the price at the pump wouldn't reflect the whole reduction in tax, but would stay higher to increase profits for retailer and those already very profitable oil companies.

However...how much of that profit is made up of road-vehicle fuel? Oil goes towards manufacture of many things such as plastics and solvents, as well as things like power stations, aviation fuel, ship fuel etc. - all of which must use a fair bit of resource.

So...are the oil companies making their profits off the back of overcharging motorists, or by charging a relatively small markup on a product which they shift in very large scale to many industries?

Rob.

hi

theres an email going round once again telling us to buy fuel only on certain days of the week in the hope of forcing a price reduction at the pumps..

A few weeks ago Jeremy Clarkson said fuel wasn't expensive! and made the interesting comment that at around £1 a litre, when you consider the manufacturing involved it's not expensive and as the bulk of the litre price is tax anyway it makes it even cheaper. Does he make a good point here.. Bottled water costs more and I can't think of any liquid I can buy thats cheaper than £1 per litre?

Anyone any thoughts

C

Is there any other liquid you buy, apart from water and maybe heating oil, that you use in the same quantities....?

Also how much does Jeremy Clarkson earn so he can keep filling up his 5mpg wonder machines?

Also how much does Jeremy Clarkson earn so he can keep filling up his 5mpg wonder machines?

A truckload more than me. And anything seems cheap if you have enough money.

Here is a rough comparison of fuel price changes over 6 months, both from filling up the vRS;

6 Months ago;

This week;

Thats means that filling up has cost nearly £1 extra per month. And fuel was pricy back then.

And you can see the price per litre has risen by 10p...

I'm not greedy, even seeing both petrol and diesel back between 85-90p p/l would cheer me up compared to how it currently is.

You should have used your clubcard :P

Instead of boycotting, we should be inciting panic buying. Next time you're at a petrol station, only buy the minimum amount of fuel, say £5.

Then spend 20 minutes in the shop reading a magazine, having a coffee or using the toilet whilst your car takes up space at the pump.

Not only will this cause queues, but by buying only a small amount each time it will force people to make return trips which the station operators won't be able to cope with.

The annoying thing was.. my dad was watching a old TV series (All quiet on the preston front) a few days ago.. it ran from 1994 until 1997. - and there was a mention of petrol prices... 48.9 for diesel and 49.9 for petrol :eek:

so the price per litre has doubled in 10 years... :thumbdwn: i cant say ive noticed my salary double tho

I can remember being shocked around the time of the first Gulf war that unleaded hit 36.9p/litre.

so the price per litre has doubled in 10 years... :thumbdwn: i cant say ive noticed my salary double tho

hhmm.. mine has.. mind you that could be down to the change in job

You should have used your clubcard :P

Instead of boycotting, we should be inciting panic buying. Next time you're at a petrol station, only buy the minimum amount of fuel, say £5.

Then spend 20 minutes in the shop reading a magazine, having a coffee or using the toilet whilst your car takes up space at the pump.

Not only will this cause queues, but by buying only a small amount each time it will force people to make return trips which the station operators won't be able to cope with.

Excellent idea... I have a feeling that it would be a daily task for me though

When I fill up in the morning, it'll the first time I've ever paid over £1 per litre :mecry: Struggling to get more than 32mpg out of a 1.6 in this cold weather :bigcry: :bigcry:

if everyone sent an email out saying that the fuel blockades will start next week on either Friday or Saturday at most major filling stations and refineries and that the info has come from a reliable source behind the blockades fill up now. This will hopefully cause a panic buy during the week leading up to the weekend...

Dont know if it would work, but its an idea

When I fill up in the morning, it'll the first time I've ever paid over £1 per litre :mecry:

It would be the same for me if wasn't for my tesco's 5p off voucher..

Most supermarket stations around here are 100.9 or 101.9p... Shell being the cheapest I've seen lately at 99.9p

if everyone sent an email out saying that the fuel blockades will start next week on either Friday or Saturday at most major filling stations and refineries and that the info has come from a reliable source behind the blockades fill up now. This will hopefully cause a panic buy during the week leading up to the weekend...

Dont know if it would work, but its an idea

As much fun as it would be to watch the sheep, this could be classed as terrorism :eek:

how can it be classed as terrorism, a friendly warning to avoid the blockades that might be happening at the weekend from a good source seems a safe idea.

It would be the same for me if wasn't for my tesco's 5p off voucher..

1) No tesco :mecry:

2) Don't spend enough yet :mecry:

how can it be classed as terrorism, a friendly warning to avoid the blockades that might be happening at the weekend from a good source seems a safe idea.

Causing the sheep to panic and buy more than they need, etc.. etc..

It's the sending the original email that I was getting at... not the people/sheep passing it on... and lets face it they don't need much of an excuse these days.

The thought police are everywhere :eek:

Petrol and Diesel is expensive

If the Americans didn't use so much of the stuff it would be cheaper for all of us.

Petrol and Diesel is expensive

If the Americans didn't use so much of the stuff it would be cheaper for all of us.

That and the emerging economies of India and China... I think if you want cheaper fuel now your only alternative is to look to other sources. Or just nuke India and China off the face of the planet...