4 years since i sold my car with all its paperwork - which makes it kinda difficult.

Of course, not forgetting the millions of others cars with the same turbo your talking about...

Edited original post,meant at the flywheel.

May I ask where your car was rolling roaded? I know remapped cars with more modifications than you, not even putting out that power.

This is the difference between accurate, and inaccurate rolling roads.

What about this one?

May I ask where your car was rolling roaded? I know remapped cars with more modifications than you, not even putting out that power.

This is the difference between accurate, and inaccurate rolling roads.

Mine was done at Awesome and i have only ever had it done once as i don't read into figures.

http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/rollingroad/graph/rr.briskoda_20.10.07/11.jpg

We've been down this road before, where the flywheel figures are stupidly high, and huge transmission losses. Which is obvioiusly inaccurate

What huge transmission losses? The 54 bhp is DRAG, not transmission loss! The Drag figure takes a number of things into account................

Graph attached.

er, yes it is transmission losses. i.e. the losses between the engine and the wheels.

they are the same thing, energy lost due to inefficiencies.

er, yes it is transmission losses. i.e. the losses between the engine and the wheels.

they are the same thing, energy lost due to inefficiencies.

I would think very hard before spending the best part of 5 grand on the car (if new bits of course) i mean you need suspension a clutch n flywheel bgger brakes and if going over 300 a new gearbox on top of the turbo and acilaries manifold ect ect esc.

Thats the reason is stopred at 230hp with k03.

I mean a focus ST225 is about 10.5k 11k now with a £400 remapp 270hp

with £1800 300hp , clutch not needed and £500 for suspension plus in std form whips vrs in every way on handling so moddified would be better again.

But hey its your money the vrs is a great looking car but somtime common sense has to kick in on spending on big mods.

Must admit I agree.

If the car not good enough for you then buy a better one in the first place.

I beleive that the car can be better than it is. realistically the car will of cost me £14500.

new car plus rear ARB Strut brace and the remap plus few bits and bobs.

I am happy spendin that on a 210 bhp car that is good lookin and drives well.

I dont agree in spendin 3k 4k on makin the car that little bit better when as said there is the focus ST, Astra VXR and even the Astra GSI.

all you doin is piling money in to somethin that will only lose value so whats the point?

IMO

I would think very hard before spending the best part of 5 grand on the car (if new bits of course) i mean you need suspension a clutch n flywheel bgger brakes and if going over 300 a new gearbox on top of the turbo and acilaries manifold ect ect esc.

Thats the reason is stopred at 230hp with k03.

I mean a focus ST225 is about 10.5k 11k now with a £400 remapp 270hp

with £1800 300hp , clutch not needed and £500 for suspension plus in std form whips vrs in every way on handling so moddified would be better again.

But hey its your money the vrs is a great looking car but somtime common sense has to kick in on spending on big mods.

Have I missed something here,where did the 5k come from,at the start of this post I believe most of the parts required are avail or have been got quite cheaply. and as the original poster says he is not looking for huge power increase.

That is tru mate

subject kind of got changed.

oh well

Yeah,the same people keep jumping on the bandwagon and stirring things up,...as you say.. oh well. Hope you carry out your mods and are happy with the results...Sod them.

an st may be that cheap now but i bought my car 4 years ago for 5k and spent about the same again on mods over time and i am more than happy with how it drives and when i haven't broken it, it goes quite well.

the only thing i will add is this;

if you want a fast car, start with a fast car in the first place

the only thing i will add is this;

if you want a fast car, start with a fast car in the first place

Cossie anyone ?

Cossie anyone ?

Coming this summer

Coming this summer

I did like you !

Spec ?

I did like you !

Spec ?

LOL - whatever is available at the time - Just need to sell my house first.

Intention at some point is a 400bhp lump.

Nice

Quite a few decent Saffs for sale on the RSOC at the moment, was peeking yesterday.

2wd or 4 ?

Nice

Quite a few decent Saffs for sale on the RSOC at the moment, was peeking yesterday.

2wd or 4 ?

2wd hopefully.

RSOC ones are usually too expensive, especially when i'm gonna rip it all out LOL

Hmm good point.

There's a Esc Cos bare shell for sale on RSOC.

Perfect for chucking something silly into.

I was actually taking a peek at RS1600i's on RSOC yesterday.

But the word RUST, keeps haunting me. lol

nah, i dont want an esc cos - the 4wd boxes are rubbish and you cant really leave them anywhere.

It's a bare shell...

Who says you have to make it 4wd.

It's a bare shell...

Who says you have to make it 4wd.

it would cost more to build one than it would to buy!

Anyway, it'd still be an escort cossie, so i still wouldnt be able to park it anywhere, plus i much prefer the sapph's.