I installed NIS 2004 on SWMBO's laptop on 04 Nov 2003, registered it on line, and the renewal date shown was 04 Nov 2004. On 23 Mar 2004, following a full clean install of Win XP Pro, I reinstalled NIS 2004 and the renewal date was now 24 Mar 2005. Today I had to uninstall NIS 2004 and then reinstall it to fix a 'Renewal Date' appears as 'Not Installed' error. Guess what - the renewal date is now 6 June 2005!

Yep, to fix the renewal date just reinstall. Works everytime, works on norton antivirus and internet security all versions.

Denis,

It's fairly well known that Norton re-sets the expiry date after a re-install.

Makes you feel almost sorry for the suckers who pay for the subscription every year

Ooohh...hang on a minute.....

This "feature" was supposed to have been fixed in the 2004 version...

Hmmm Denis the hacker, i wonder.. :rubchin:

Thanks for that confirmation, not least because I bought 2 full retail versions last year.

hmm buy Norton I think not I never pay for software!!! I love you internet

Makes you feel almost sorry for the suckers who pay for the subscription every year

I think the term "suckers" applies to those who trust Norton for anything.

No offence intended, but Norton isnt the best or most cost effective.

INo offence intended, but Norton isnt the best or most cost effective.

What is, Andy? I used to use McAfee but that became problematical with WinME - which was problematical itself.

Ummm McAfee. Yep, that's so good that a fully updated version didn't spot a SirCam infection on a mates PC a year or 2 back. He lost a LOT of data.

Denis, if Norton works for you, stick with it. It's a home PC after all, a combination of a reasonably decent firewall & regular AV updates will keep you as safe as anything.

Lets face it, if anyone really wants to get into / damage your files badly enough, they will do so regardless of what security you have.

At work we use the full trendmicro suite of products. Before the user receives any email its scanned by 2 products. Checking the stats on friday, since the server was last rebooted a couple of weeks ago, we have recieved 60,000 emails of which 7,000 contained viruses. We dont bother to attempt to remove the virus, we just delete the email.

Not been infected on either PC with NIS installed and plenty of viruses being intercepted and blocked successfully. That said, it is detecting and reporting 2 at risk files - namely cd clint.dll (Adware.Cydoor) and NPMYWAY.DLL (Adware.Mybar) but can't get rid of either. Any ideas, please? (I also use Ad-aware and Spybot - neither of which flag those files.)

PS Should have mentioned that NIS seems to do a good job of blocking Trojans.

I here what you say about it only being a desktop PC Geoff, but Norton is very heavy resource wise, and is a real pain to fully uninstal and remove.

For a firewall I would choose Sygate Personal...its free and very effective and dead easy to set up. If you extra protection then you can buy the Pro version, but the free version is an excellent product.

For anti virus, then if you want free I suggest Avast 4 Home edition. Again its free, freely updateable, is easy to configure, has its own support forums and is very effective with regular sygnature updates. It will also monitor constantly, scan your e-mails, as well as on-demand scans.

If you want a pay for AV, then Nod32 is very good, quick at scanning and light on resources.

For anti trojan, then for me its TDS3. Sorry, but as yet there arent any free AT products that I know of, and there are only decent 3 pay for anyway.

Sorry if this doesnt help you, or you dont agree.

For me internet protection is a multi-layer operation and as such all-in one software doesnt do the job effectively.

I also dont agree with the thing about having to rebuy the software when they update the version or product other than a normal sygnature update.

If Norton change from the 2003 version to 2004 you then have to rebuy it. Why?

TDS3 for example is a once only fee, with lifetime updates.

Nod32 is a yearly reduced re-license fee, but then decent AV is like that.

Just my thoughts.

edit: what I should add, is use what your comfortable with but dont be afraid to look at other software to compare and see what it looks like. Then when its license renewal time you can make a considered choice to either renew or swap.

Andy, my point is, if it works for Denis (which it seems to do) then why bother changing it?

Yes, Norton "update" every year, but it doesn't mean that you must buy the "new" version does it? That would be a rather expensive logic if we applied it to everything we buy.....

I have Norton 2003 on the laptop, and don't find it a resource hog at all, but on the desktop i have Sygate & AVG. I don't find either combination better or worse than the other, and both do exactly what i want. i.e. they work with minimal intervention from myself.

I'm also sitting smugly behing the firewall in my router, so i'm pretty well covered, without going to extremes.

I agree Geoff that if it works for you then stick with it.

I should say that I too used to used Norton, but after so may problems and lack of detections (I had 3 virus on the pc which 3 other AV,s found...Norton didnt) I decided enough was enough and unsitalled it, although the process of complete removal was an interesting time.

I think now though that Norton is using the Zone Alarm firewall....another piece of software that many like but again for me was nothing but aggro especially the uninstal.

But as you said, and I do agree..if you like it then why change?

Indeed

I'd also suggest something along the lines of MailWasher.

I have it on the Laptop and it's intercepted all manner of nasties before the Firewall & AV even get a chance to do their thing.

Norton = LOL LOL LOL

nod32 'get it and forget it'. best Anti virus full stop.

nod32.com

remember u saw it here first!

Ho hum...

You people buy operating systems? And then you have to buy anti-virus software to keep them safe?? :eek:

Me? I'll stick to Linux...

I'm probably donating as much as you're paying for the OS, but it's my choice. I don't have to worry too much about security - and I get security updates for free...