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I have found a local ''car guy'' (many year ago had a Favorit) with many cars (from small N/A to turbo) in experience and told me some things which i translate them best as i can: ''Most 1.6 in the city of Athens with heavy traffic exceed 14 liters (checked with Primera, Focus, Renault). A Skoda Fabia brand new 1.2 MPI that I had in 2008-2010, mixed route with 150 km per day of which 20-30 in heavy traffic never happened and for no reason below 9 liters. If I get a move from the borders of Athens (Attica) to Athens (near Christmas period with traffic) i had 11 litre in gas pum station. Even this one which has "modern" and a three-cylinder engine tαrgeting the low fuel consumption, if it worked as a taxi in Athens (heavy traffic) the 13 litre would have had it for sure''. After all these i don't feel so bad as i use to be.

I have made a simple test today, the car has hot, i removed the black cover of the throttle and pushed a little bit the plate. It moved, the ''Z'' metal guide touched the plastic buffer and stopped. The car was working normally (pushing down the plate at front means the back end rised so air was coming inside) except a ''Hssss'' sound. I kept the plate down for few seconds, the car didn't turned-off the the ''Hssss'' sound continued, i left my finger the plate returned to the ''rest'' position and the ''Hsss'' sound stopped, only the sound of normal idle was heard. I did it again another one time, exactly the same results, so? That's good or bad? Is sunctioned air, right?

I will try to find a local repair-shop with it, most of them have a laptop which connect it with cable in my OBD1 port and after few seconds say ''No errors".

Nowadays if you are not Old-School mechanic or have a repair-shop near buy with a friend that knows about Carburettors i think it's a nightmare. Better install a new engine that you can upgrade (ECU-chip, turbo etc) easily.

Felicia 1.3mpi engine swap https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/475107-felicia-13mpi-engine-swap/

The throttle bodys with wire (as mine) are not common among other models from other car brands?

So for an MPI we have 0.25mm IN and 0,20mm EXH?

The manual says what i have posted with photos. It's impossible for the returning of the plate to have such a force as my finger, even if you full open the throttle manually and let it drop with it's own momentum does not go any further. Always stops at the same point, few mm before the buffer. One day i will make a test, with the car idling i will push with my finger the plate to close more, if the engine stops means no air is coming to the engine, if it continuous working means something is wrong with the adjustment.

I think the 1st is the Best.

Old topic but the The Mpi has alloy pushrods is a fact? If any new member read this (via Search) can guaranteed it?

No errors from throttle with 3 diagnostics. A local ''car guy'' with many cars (one of them was Favorit) told me that a gap of 100 rpm is not noticable from the computer and will not give an error. He insited that ''something small'' is the cause of that raise of fuel consumption on idle and suggested me to check the TPS but with 7 pns and no background (video from another Felicia) i can not do anything. The guys with 3 pins have the knowledge ready.

The TC-6 says the fuel consumption in idle is ''approximately 0,8 ltr per hour" but i was seeing in the LCD screen always 0,9-1,00 ltr/hour which means every time the throttle plate was closing was not as it should be. More air-more gasoline-more fuel consumption in idle (traffic light for example) and especially in city traffic this is very crucial. I cleaned the sticky grease, lubricate the plastic reel and the axle of the plate and ofter some minutes of driving i started seeing 0,8-0,9 ltr/hour in the LCD screen, i don't think it was a coincidence. This gives some kind of tolerance, i have tried in the first years to make it more tight (i thougth will give immediately response to the gas pedal) but i saw that i was very wrong.

No one has ever touched the cable at least for about 20 years. When the throttle plate returns to ''rest'' position (Off) seems to stop ''physically" ,only when i pushed with my finger the ''Z'' guide moves and touches the plastic buffer. The throttle plate can not close 100% otherwise the system will not have enough air for idle procedure and i think the grease much was delaying even stopped a little bit sooner (even for 1mm) the whole procedure.

As the throttle plate is in ''resting'' position the ''Z'' style guyde does not touch the plastic stop but when i press it with my finger it closes and touch it. When i release my finger the ''Z'' guide returns back as the throttle plate. I know that there must be a gap between the plate and the body of the throttle because some air needed to pass inside for the idle but i don't think that muck helps in something so i remove it with a brush and a cleaning spray.

I manage to take some photos (not very good) to show you something which i have done n the past and i think is Wrong. I apply grease to the plastic part (reel) of the throttle as a maintenance but i was exaggerate. I have the thought that after few years this became some sort of ''sticky'' making the moving of the wire a little bit difficult especially when i release the gas pedal and the throttle plate returns to Close position. Am i right or the tension of the mechanism (spring) is more powerful and can slur over?

I would not buy a Vika for such a ''crucial'' part, there are some other brands in the market, for example here and here and here . Here is mine https://ntotsikasparts.gr/product/aquaplus-antlia-nerou-skoda-felicia-1-3-96-6-loukia-10691-85-5705/ installed 4 years ago.

047133061 PIERBURG 5WP4270 With that code the Google Search results wer disappointingly but searching with just the code 047133061 the results were just a little bit better. The price for new here in the local market is at least 320-370 € and of course no one sells the 7 pin connector it self. Here a guy manage to open it from the side. Of course i don't dare to alone such a thing.

I will make a GL-4 change with the first chance.

Motul Motylgear says covers API GL-5 and GL-4, this will harm the synchros in long term use?

No good news, this is from anothe Felicia same as mine, i don't konw if i can open the side plate and remove that 7pin sensor. Then i have to do the same with my throttle body (plus new gasket) and if that won't work then again the whole procedure in reverse? Oh God No.

What about fuel consumption in city traffic? How many litres per 100Km?

An extreme example from Usa shipping to Egypt US $90.00 (approx EUR 88.40) eBay International Standard Delivery and another from Uk shipping to Egypt GBP 30.19 (approx EUR 34.63) Expedited Shipping (International Priority Shipping) Things are tough when you are in economic hardship.

Shipping rates from Usa are outrageous, many times are 200% than the price of the product it self. I thought i was the only fussy guy because my Felicia takes 3.40 to reach the 70 'C

@R_U_AFA : Take a look at this https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/499328-how-much-time-do-you-warm-up-your-felicia/?do=findComment&comment=5616459 it's similar to your problem? I Had it and some times still i hear that noise it but the solution is simple, double clutch.

If you don't have Winter as we do here you don't need heat in the morning.