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I had a variation of this on New Year’s Eve 2025, fuel flap was jammed half closed but also wouldn’t open, Dealer opened it while I waited and then booked it in to be fixed under warranty. The cover plate slides off and then with plastic trim tools it’s possible to remove the mounting plate but the filler cap has to be unscrewed somehow to release the mounting plate.

I think CJJE might have a 2.0 TSI (as do I). As you say so many factors that affect mpg. My daily commute was on a north / south motorway and the mpg was generally the same each way. But when I do long journeys on essentially east / west routes there is always a difference the westerly journey is always lower mpg (higher consumption) presumably due to prevailing wind. With dashboard displays of instant and avg since start is easy to monitor fuel usage.

Our Fabia with the same DQ 200 DSG was having problems on a slight slope in D with hill hold. Taking ones foot off the brake pedal without touching the throttle the Fabia could do any of the following: Roll back with the engine revs rising - clutch obviously not engaging. Engine revs rise slightly (1000 rpm) car creeps forward - as you'd expect. Engines rise slightly (1000 rpm) car creeps forward, then starts to roll back and revs rise further (1,500 rpm or more) - obviously clutch has disengaged. With (1) above the throttle was applied to stop it rolling back it would do (3) then (2) and then (3) or sometimes just (2). Totally unpredictable and it was the same on the flat but less of an issue. In reverse it behaved as it should and would creep up the slope without rolling forward. I've had two other DSG cars and on a slope both of them would move off smoothly and creep with touching the throttle so I felt sure the Fabia wasn't right. The cure was actually very simple and relatively inexpensive. I took the Fabia to STA DSG specialists in Aylesbury who connected it up to the diagnostics - no faults, but they could see the problem when they test drove it. Then they did a Clutch Pack relearn or reset where the DSG controller establishes the biting point of the clutches, by engaging and dis-engaging each clutch a few times. This cost £160 and solved the problem completely. I'm not suggesting that your juddering is the same issue but it does sound related in that the clutch engagement, engine revs and auto hold release are no longer quite in sync.

In 12,000 miles my overall mpg is 35 mpg, trips less than 20 miles 28 mpg, long 100 mike plus 45 mpg.

The DSG does learn to a certain extent, but you are wise to walk away. For example after completing a 1000 mile round trip towing a twin axle car trailer the DSG in both my current Karoq and mh previous Touran would change down sooner, and after a few days would revert to normal behaviour. I dread to think what driver style had caused a DSG to learn to judder!

I discovered this useful access panel in the Side panels of the boot. There is one each side and they give access to the wiring, pan roof drain pipes and thd back of the rear light clusters (for small hands). This kid the left side and if sort of hinges, the other 3 sides are released by squeezing them.

One of our pool cars is a 2013 Passat, and we have to pour warm/hot water over the drivers door if the windscreen is iced over to thaw the lock. All the other doors are fine, but the drivers door mechanism seems to freeze up internally. Without the hot water it sometime opens but then does not latch shut! We have to make sure to park it somewhere that gets the early morning winter sun on the drivers door, as this helps!.

Karoq 1.5 TSI DSGs are fairly numerous, so there will be many others around, however if you do give the dealer and the car a second chance .I would carry out a very thorough road test to see if the fault has genuinely been fixed. There are two clutches in a DSG gearbox; Clutch 1 controls 1st, 3rd, 5th & 7th, Clutch 2 controls 2nd, 4th, 6th and Reverse. On a flat road check that the car will move away from rest in D and R without any throttle, i.e. it move smoothly at tickover revs. Find a road with a slope, one that if you were in manual car it would be a hill start situation using the handbrake. The DSG has an automatic 'Hill Hold' feature so again it should move away from rest in both D and R on tickover without any throttle. In both the above tests once moving it should then be possible to apply throttle and accelerate away smoothly. It could be wheelspin causing the traction control to take control which might feel like juddering. Switch off traction control and see if it makes a difference. Remember the DSG will attempt to start in 2nd and if Stop/Start has partially kicked in that might cause a feeling of juddering. Starting in 2nd is, I think, a contributor to the wheelspin; driver decide to pull away, DSG is in second (the other clutch has already selected 3rd), as the car is not moving soon enough driver presses throttle more, DSG decides to use 1st and there is a delay while it switches from 3rd to 1st, driver may apply more throttle so when the clutch for 1st gear engages the engine revs up and the wheels spin. If the DSG judders starting in 1st but doesn't judder in Reverse or vice-versa I would suspect that there is an issue with whichever clutch is juddering, at 5000 miles that shouldn't happen. Also using Sport mode to see if that makes any difference. The comment about the vehicle having sat for a while could mean the rear brake pads/calipers are sticking, so when auto-hold or the auto handbrake is relased its not releasing completely immediately. From reading the many posts on this forum about juddering, hesitance on pulling away, cutting out all with the 1.5 TSI engine, there are many examples reported but there are many owners whose 1.5 TSI engines do not have these issues, my take is that this engine is complex and has many clever (or not) economy features. These require fine tolerances, if the combination of parts has a perfect tolerances it works as designed BUT if the engine happens to have been assembled from parts that are only just within tolerance maybe it doesn't always work quite as designed. But as many others have said I would walk away too.......

True, I don't think most car makers understand how to embed software into a device, in this case a car. Apple is a classic example their software just works in what ever Apple device you have. On all the forums you see comments about the built in functionality that its just not as good as the standalone devices or Phone Apps. I can't help wonder what will be the situation in 10 years time when the embedded software is no longer compatible with a piece of external infrastructure and so no longer works, and the car maker has no interest in producing a software update. The phasing out of the 2g and 3g phone networks, the sunsetting of Windows 10, Windows NT and 2000, for example. I would also add Y2k, which was over 25 years ago, is another example and there are whole generations who probably have no idea what that was!

The fact that Carplay and Android Auto are not integrated with the Virtual Cockpit or fully integrated with the steering wheel controls is a short-coming, I can see that if Car Manufacturers provided an API for Carplay and Android Auto then they would avoid the need to provide and maintain all the functions that mobile phones include.

That seems rather poor, my 2.0 TSI 4x4 does 25 mpg around town, 30-34 mpg on cross country journeys and 45-48 mpg on longer 200 mile motorway journeys. Is it manual or DSG, DSG usually does better mpg than manual, how many miles had it done in total. To get a accurate reflection of true mpg you need to monitor over 2 or 3 tank fulls, brim to brim, which would be 1000 to 1300 miles. Are you using supermarket unleaded, Shell/BP/Esso 95 Unleaded or Premium unleaded 99 Shell V-Power/BP Ultimate. There is a view that the 99 Premium unleaded improves the runnimg of the highly tuned 1.5 TSI engine.

Yes. I leave the Infotainment unit switched on, with radio volume turned down. If TSR was available on the Assist Systems screen.

What, I think, you could be referring to is Traffic Sign Recognition (TSR). This was an option for MY 2023 so it would depend if your car was specified to be built with TSR. I have a 73 plate Sportline that does not have TSR, and despite having the necessary camera and software, the coding is known but it cannot be applied as it has been protected. I had my Karoq analysed by HazzyDayz who had hoped to retro fit TSR by updating the the coding, but if wax impossible. You can set the Nav screen to display the speed limit for the current road. I have this switched on but it’s only visible on the large central screen and it’s not displayed on the virtual cockpit screen. Generally the map speed limit data is up to date.

My Sportline 4x4 is only 2 yrs old and done 12,000 miles so not needed a DSG oil change yet. My previous wet clutch DSG had 3 oil and filter change services, the last in 2023 was around £300 parts labour and VAT, the oil is expensive 2015 £68 +vat, 2018 £75 + vat, 2023 £101 +vat, and going up alot each time too. I think my DQ 250 only had 5 litres too,. Your quote doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

This is a really good tyre comparison website. https://www.tyrereviews.com/Compare/AllSeasonContact-2-VS-CrossClimate-2.htm I’ve copied it from a post I made in the Karoq section. You can compare any tyre against any other tyre, so for example to get the All Season with better wet weather rating than snow if that’s more relevant to you. I enddd up putting Continental Contact All Season on the Fabia as the wet rating was better than Cross Climates which were better in snow. Wet roads being more common than snow in Buckinghamshire.

@JXR I recommend trying the tyre comparison site I mentioned on the earlier post. With the 19” alloys on the 4x4 Sportline I’m keen to find an All Season tyre with some form of rim protector which the current Bridgestone Duellers have.

I sprayed Silicone lubricant on the plunger, checked that it went in and popped out again when presses a couple of times and thought I had cracked it. When I pushed the flap to close, it somehow got caught on the plunger and couldn't be pushed flush, neither would it open. It was almost as though it had locked. The Techie indicated that he'd have to disconnect the connector for the locking mechanism to prevent it happening again, but it appears that he didn't because it still locks, unlocks and pops open as it should. His comment about leaving it disconnected would suggest that it is the lock mechanism that jams in the plunger and prevents its openimng. That video is very useful, sliding the cover flap off to expose the insides.

Admittedly this is rather off topic. The boring stats are as follows: Mitsubishi Space Runner 172K miles (from new) 1995 to 2004 - cost 5p per mile maintenance Mazda Premacy 160K (ex demo 6 months old) 2004 to 2013 7 p per mile maintenance VW Touran 108K from new 2013 -2024 9 p per mile maintenance Skoda Karoq from 1100 miles (used 6 months old) 2024 - current 2p per mile maintenance. Fiat Punto 30K miles from 9,000 miles (Used 1 yr ) 1998 - 2016 11p per mile maintenance Skoda Fabia 20K miles from 900 miles (used 1 yr old) 2016 - current 23p per mile maintenance Interestingly it is the low mileage cars that have the higher cost per mile, the 3 high mileage vehicles cost per mile when allowing for inflation is probably very similar.

Update - popped into Marshall Skoda MK. Service Agent said they'd be able to open it but would need to be booked in to be fixed properly, under warranty. A Tech come out, released the flap, told me its a known problem - the flap now seems to be working properly. Its booked in 1st week in January. All sorted within 30 minutes on Christmas Eve. Panic averted.

Anyone had the fuel filler flap jam on closing so it’s partially closed but won’t open or close? Kinda stuck now.

@DSL i have books with refuellings and odometer readings going back to 1977, before that I had a little plastic “thingy” about 3” by 1” with two disks on the top edge and 3 dials on the bottom. The fuel volume was recorded on the top dials and the last 3 digits of the odometer on the lower dials. I have maintained spreadsheets recording maintenance and repair costs since around 1999. As you say the totals can be scary. I will look later to check.

This was a round trip MK to Bristol - MK. The 2.0 TSI is a bit thirstier than the 1.5 TSI - I usually manage to get 45 - 48 on this journey but today 44.5 mpg was the best I could manage on the trip, trip to Tescos last night dragged the overall down to 41.

l’ve often wondered how accurate the Driving Data stats for fuel consumption were on my Karoq. This week I have been able to calibrate with brim to brim refuellings. As the image below shows 41 mpg on a 265 mile round trip to Bristol today. Refuelled when I got back 30 litres for 265 miles is 40.1 mpg, so I reckon that’s close enough to rely on. My previous car it was always about 4-5 mpg optimistic, although I believe VCDS could be used to adjust it to be more accurate.

Since 1985 we’ve kept all our cars a minimum of 10 years or over at least 140,000 miles for the main car and around 16 years for the second car. We are only on the 3rd second car which is a 2015 Fabia, that’s done 21,000 miles. It has annual oil and filter changes, one battery replacement, 1 cambelt, set of tyres last month. The main cars have done: 108k, 145k, 151k, 162k, 108k between 100,000 and 110,000 miles was when they needed extra things replaced, shocks, wheel bearings, ball joints, and then they were back to normal service items. Typically had a set of front pads and perhaps front discs never needed rear brake pads or shoes replaced. The 162k Mazda had a new clutch at 140k but that was preventative - I prefer to avoid breakdowns if possible. So I think you would be able to keep your Fabia going without major expense for many more years to come. Our first “second” car we still own it’s on 40,000 miles.

I have the 2.0 TSI 4x4 DSG, how it compares to an Octavia VRS I can’t say as I’ve not driven the VRS. However I don’t think you will disappointed especially in Sport mode! To go back to the 1.5 TSI engine, yes it did have issues, yes they have improved, have the problems been completely solved - not entirely, and are much more noticeable with the manual gearbox, so the DSG is the better option. However the 1.5 TSI DSG is 2wd and prone to front wheel spin when pulling out of junctions. I don’t think the 1.5 TSI is available, in the UK at least, as a 4x4. In 10,000 miles in my 2.0 TSI I’ve not encountered front wheelspin when pulling away, even at damp junctions, where my 2.0 TDI DSG 2wd Touran would spin and traction control would cut in. The 1.5 TSI uses the dry clutch DQ 200 DSG, the 2.0 TSI uses the wet clutch DQ 381. The road holding and grip of the 2.0 TSI is excellent. The rear suspension on the 4x4 Karoqs is the VAG multilink setup ad used on the VW Touran, Passat and probably Octavia and Superb. The 2wd Karoqs use a torsion beam rear suspension.