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You could work on the basis that the mib2high icons are the same. They can be extracted and looked at via SQLITE as I recall. The mibsolution people load those back into their own apps for mib2. That's one way of checking whether your radio station logo is there. What MartiniB suggested in one conversation. Either way it isn't an update but a complete refresh. A replacement. I've looked at them when conversations come up about missing logos. Afraid mib3 is the pits for this, mib2 you could back fill the missing stations yourself.

I only code things that are not obvious. Stop / start I revert back when it serviced. Mind you I did mess up the maps, being a Seat mib2 high they don't have life long Mapcare like Skodas. Learning curve then. Nobody really knew then. It appears mib3 firmware is more complex so user modification isn't a good idea... I reckon. Map updates are fine but adjusting the firmware is more problematic. Connect services if available in the country take care of firmware updates and you can always go back to the dealer if it fails. Outside of Europe where connect services don't exist DIY on firmware updates can be problematic.

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For what it's worth on 5 & 6 I did posted all the navigation PDFs on this post if its a question of interpretation. https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/updating-the-inbuilt-mib3-satnav-offline.472408/ Given you'd got the firmware in I assumed you'd probably mastered unzip the navigation file correctly. You use 7 zip ideally to unzip. You have to get the files in the route. As far as looking for the original file you could probably pick any file before or at that date in the Vag group. Mib mapcare works by allowing you to install upto and before so if it's that. Before your original map would be fine if you can find a mib3 map before that period. Also on that other thread we were told how to read the mm.yy which might come in use when looking for files if you need to go backwards before going forward. You do this looking on a separate file copy so as to not corrupt the good copy.

As well as that it may need the Vag mothership being told the firmware was swapped continents why AA etc has vanished. In other wards the FeCs have been wiped. So yes the firmware used is important. On MartiniB main thread people have come along trying to get European cars with Mib3 working in Africa. Old chestnut with mib2. Mib2 high no maps. Mib2 standard you could adjust the map file to work. Can't do that with mib3, SLA locked. It seems there are package modules that can change Europe into America but one to do that for Africa hadn't been found. This will be all closed information and files leaked out from Vag. Wrong firmware on the unit may render the FeCs... enablement switches off. There is a mib enthusiast group that lurks on a message board might be able to help. Probably those files are coming from them posted up on Mibsolution but without the documentation. As is the way that website operates. They are lifted off the Vag dealer systems but the notes don't get published with them.

Well the firmware files are only suppose to be used by dealers with the release notes they get on their intranet system. Probably some instruction not followed. You might need vag systems. Over to an expert.

Also photographing the FeCs before and after would show you what changed.

Probably the navigation FeCs. Generally you'd have been better not to have updated the firmware then the only question would have been getting the navigation map in. It's the firmware update. You might be better off posting on a firmware thread. There is the normal stuff about loading in the maps etc. Not sure whether a firmware update deletes the maps. If it's some package from somewhere you might have ended up with the European FeCs rather than the RoW Navigation FeCs thus why I say you need a firmware expert on Mib3.

Probably need to update your satnavs maps 😉. Mib1, mib2 high and mib3 are Here Maps. Mib2 standard to circa 2018 or something (on the other thread) were Here Maps. After TomTom cartography. Not sure why they changed. All Here Map ones can be changed to Inrix via coding or file changes. TomTom can't. TomTom and HereMaps use more strict validation in a cartography sense. Google Maps is free and easy. If they can get a survey up a road even though it is a farm track and not a public road it goes in. Issue the routine algorithm takes you up those roads. If they take user input on those roads and also use the car as a probe then they say, past validation, it's a road. They become a devil of a job to get these farm track short cut roads removed. I've given up and won't supply any cartography to Google Maps after they fail to remove farm track roads. Unsurfaced mud roads. One here, jump to one side, here comes another Google Map user taking the farm track to the country hotel. Openstreet is really a general purpose cartography controlled by academics in the main. Ordnance Survey planning maps in the UK, Crown Copyright are the statutory planning control maps. It is those that are the gold standard in the UK used by survey companies to submit their planning applications for their clients. The house number system and house names, street name is found on that, regulated by local authorities. Postcode directory and house numbers by the Post Office. Openstreet have an arrangement to use these maps to provide information for crowd sourcing Openstreet from them. Copyright arrangements by the companies and authorities to use each other's. Electoral ward, local authorities etc is all cross referenced into the postcodes. Because Openstreet is free it is used by companies to overlay their information. Google maps a charge may be appropriate. Here Maps you also see. Cartography subroutine libraries they use on websites. Amazon use Heremaps on their tracker map. Point mapping is also used by delivery companies where the front entrance door becomes the address. You see DHL won't let parcels out of their hands until at the geo point. Sorry they say as they walk closer and the device says they are there. That's built up from their own databases. I believe that is also sold on to the cartography companies as validation files. The mobile phone tracks also become the probes used for validation of traffic movements.

Afraid I'm not into connected cars for navigation or traffic reports. Feels like amateur radio. The maps created are not created by cartography companies but Google itself. Waze has fantasy roads on it without validation, ditto Google maps putting in farm tracks. Speed camera reports are only reports. All CB radio type of stuff on Waze. Missing is validation. Now traffic reports are dogged by the closure of 3g. Sounds fun. For software updates and inbuilt navigation problematic slow connections isn't really an issue but real time use it will be. Least we now know from the above why eSim and dongle use as alternative to TMC are problematic. The post 2020 cars with mib3 and above won't have TMC, whilst in the UK and France etc coding solutions are available to get the traffic reports still up on your built in maps (mib1 and 2, Skoda and Seat) till that plug is pulled. Inrix does for me with the solutions posted on the other thread. It's the database that Traffic Authorities use in the UK to record known road conditions.

Suspect you are in the slow lane of end of life care (EOL as its called in the NHS). That's the worry with connected cars as to how long the support lasts for. You got the dongle bit but never the less elements of connected car. Question is whether other users find the same.

Well it's one of these two based on a Google of what's fitted: Mib3 (Superb Mk3.FL and similar) Content Downloadable 2023.12.20 2023.12.20 162 MB 2024.05.17 2024.11.07 https://www.phonostar.de/download/vw/MQB3_OI_JND_Europe_v1.31.50.zip 1,13 GB 2025.01.14 2025.02.20 https://www.phonostar.de/download/vw/MQB3_OI_NonGP_JND_Europe_v1.31.56.zip 166 MB Pass on what NonGP means... we need @MartiniB I'd try the bigger file, see whether that works then move onto the smaller one. You can read the radio release you currently have of your infotainment system, so what you want is something with a higher release. No good going below that. That's the other steer. Generally these update files lock onto your unit so if it's not relevant, it won't work. So no damage. Final answer as they say... look at your current version release off the screen and compare. As an aside I did read this post https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/522574-update-to-version-1969/ And a followup post links to the flashing usb adaptor sold by Amazon. It's those ones that flicker people like on the map update to know something is happening.

Can take a year or so if digitised to arrive. Herewego app shows current live data so you can always cross check. You can always join the Mapcreator programme.

Well that's the advantage to Vag they have sold out responsibility to those that look after the Internet of things. Not us, they provide the service type of thing.

You don't have to pay anything. MartiniB top post should be the current which tallies with what you have downloaded from what you said. Formatting, getting it in the route directory unzipped and suitable. Yes should install after a period. The only issues are technical issues if usb a to c adaptors are used. Formatting and generally messing it up. It can take a couple of hours or a couple of days... you check the information screen to see whether it's been updated to the map release mm.yy as MartiniB posted. That changes and you know it's done.

& they have go slow speeds. I use buy MVNO Sim cards visiting Japan the operation parameters were quite wide. Cheaper than the Japanese main providers which you couldn't buy since you didnt have a registered address, but there was a reason why they were cheaper. They always worked thou.

5 years ago till mib3 came along for the cheaper Vag brands. Seat and Skoda. The others got connect services more early. Yes you are probably best to cough up for the services when you got the car new then stop paying up when they stop working. The software updates come that way.

@joek666 was using a dongle thingey which gave the car traffic data. Skoda Mib2 standard which I think you pushed any old mobile card in ?.

Cunning. Well the mapping systems are only as good as the cartography and Google maps for one is pretty bad since it isn't a cartography company. The traffic speed data is useful but connect services is catching up. The adhoc Apple and Android Auto methods obviously provides a solution when Vag stops supporting the system. This will be a worry with connected cars although Audi were off the starters line earlier. Your probably seeing what happens when they stop supporting certain aspects of the car. It stops working or slows down.

Yes that will avoid any slow 4g. Where Vag buys data off providers and gets it cheap. But then if it's their servers and internal data comms it won't help.

Could be the same issue Vag has a habit of down grading it's offer as it judges the life cycle is over. Web pages disappear and slow data speeds through duff servers would be another. I recall the thread did give a pretty good explanation. I'm pleased with using old maps for mib2 standard and the mod. In the other car, mib2 high, the mod and the latest maps. Inrix isn't a bad service for giving road works and holds up. Different service to Google obviously.

Normally there is a parts ID on the file so shouldn't load into a unit that isn't compatible. You have to study assorted firmware files and uploads to work out what it is. Firmware isn't compatible but whether you'd classify that as firmware needs studying. The maps are interchangeable within a hardware type across brands. The logos get driven by another brand ID check but compatible if it's listed. Need a youngster with mib3 🤣.

Thanks. Ok the pdf seems to be the restore if it gets corrupted as it says. Will have a look tomorrow at what file it's pulling up.

Can you give us the Youtube link to get to the bottom of what it does. The file comes off VAG servers so nothing from elsewhere.

Well it's the whole of Europe that's on the map. The search engine is probably like the Here Maps online search engine so you have to narrow it down a bit. Free text search is probably the box you are filling in, if like mib2. That there is also a tabular view of the address where people have issues getting the postcode and town names in. The design is really for zip codes where the zone is much broader than our postcodes. It's a mute point whether it uses all 7 / 8 characters of the postcode or less. Bashing the street number will get you to a more exact place if it's been house numbered. Building names of residential homes aren't in the system, so where house numbers aren't available only the street name comes in. They have centroids of the street so you end up with the centroid (mid point). Postcodes have centroids as well so they get attached to the street. Some house numbering is done synthetically where they know the range of house numbers in a street and stretch these equal distance. Think these files are bought where that occurs or student projects. It fails where a recreation ground for example occurs in the middle of the street. Spacing is wrong. Probably occurs in 5 % of the house numbers. Basically two systems running one on street names and street numbers and one on postcodes. Commercial properties have their own postcodes. Residential ones share. You are always better to get a street number in as well as the street. People cherish their postcodes... use to do GIS from the start as it was taking off, survey work, analysis, modelling and planning. GIS we got into to assist planning and modelling. Hence my interest in mapping. Census analysis, deprivation and resource allocation... hence the postcode and GIS... two are related 😉. Point mapping is where you scatter the points randomly around the postcode to get intensity. The early mib3 programmers didn't know how to handle the suite of files they got from Here Maps, you could see they were building a GIS rather than a navigation system. That's been corrected now. They were having you turning off the road into a field to the centroid. The centroid has to be attached to the road so that doesn't happen 🤣. I don't hear about that now.