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Probably a system issue of the data passing more slowly through their systems before it gets transmitted out to you or their polling to the car. On the positive side using old maps still works well with FM and @pcbbc modules. Many more traffic reports than you ever got with the Trafficmaster system.
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Wo Yes worth trying out with the old maps. It could be you are just seeing an influx of a lot of reports that just takes a bit longer to build up. Over the air Inrix with the Skoda board magic you experience more traffic reports than you ever got with Trafficmaster so may be just a lot of data coming down.
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The only thing you can do is try a reboot, a long press on the on/off button till you see the splash screen. There are no other user controls. Just leaving the car powered off for 20 minutes may be sufficient to give the same results although elements of the infotainment system are kept live with mib3 connect services outside the 20 minutes so a reboot may be helpful. The fix all to infotainment systems where the program goes wrong.
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A bit normal that mobile phone companies steel your credit if you don't use the device for two months or so. I buy a 120gb EE SIM of Amazon, £60 for my tablet and bin it each year and buy another one. Think they are loss leaders. Handy for mobile hot spots in hotels where the wifi is no good, expensive or slow. They work in Europe if activated before you travel. Popular with canal boat people etc... cheap per gb data. On your other issue no telling how they interface the traffic data with connect services. It probably gets piped to Germany and slowly piped out.
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You have to have the whole lot. Europe is broken into zones, so those fragments are the zones. Over the air as you drive it updates by area. A trick apparently you can use with over the air connected services is to start a route across Europe, that forces an update of the whole lot. For offline you update the whole lot. It's just the design of connected services and over the air. No meddling now with the files as mib2 standard. They are signed which protects the integrity of them.
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It shouldn't do unless it have an esoteric infortainment system. You see on Drive2 sites some alternatives. Reckon you can rest assured that if it took the update it's the correct one. They would screen for incorrect updates. The VIN is really there to control access to their website of updates because they are sniffy. There will be "Mib4" ones coming along where you'll have a branch I reckon.
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On 6. Have you tried out the trusty mib2 high trick of opening and closing the door everything 15 minutes. VAG cars power down at 20 minutes so 15 minutes gives you a grace period. It's like when you have the radio on and it shuts down. It won't shut down if you open and close the door at 15 minutes. I update mine with SWDL in Mib2 high so there is no roll back. These will have a roll back but if you fool it to think you are still there it will keep going moving forwards rather than a restart from a restore point in the update. My two pennies worth.
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These are the 2024/25 June 2024 European release. Skoda have officially released the 2024/25 maps for Europe if you had a Skoda VIN, fear not the direct link is this: https://infotainment-cdn.skoda-auto.com/base/maps/OI_P119_EU_202425_Offline_Update.zip VW have not as yet put the file up on their map site but again we have the link: https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/EUR_12PR119_FCT3WS-23131_Offline_Update.tar Both are identical... so the story goes. No sign of Seat thou. All files are interchangeable.
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Thank you very much... got that working. One for @MartiniB based on this post There is a ECE 2024/2025 which tallies with the results shown in the database. I see they are churping about it: https://www.briskoda.net/forums/search/?q=CE2024/2025&quick=1&type=forums_topic&item=524268 on a search for ECE 2024/2025 so it's slipped out which I quess it's why we are talking about it as confirmed @c34 ... I had been wondering where the June release had got to. I don't think I missed @MartiniB 's posts on it but perhaps I did.
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Because you didn't take a back copy, you will be stuck. Your unit isn't a mib2 standard and neither is it a mib1 standard... if it was this would be the solution. Over to RN315 Amundsen experts... but since you said you guessed it was an RN315, you'd be in a better position if it wasn't. That's the mib1 standard update for 2023 which people have got going: https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/511425-amundsen-mib1-maps-update/#comment-5871892 I'd google the serial number on the map card and see whether it's classified as mib1 standard from adverts for the card you have. The second method, google the unit's infotainment part number if you can get that to show. If you can place it to an Amundsen Mib1, then you are in luck and can follow that will. Some frigging about is required... hmm but then you have lost your copy of the map file if you didn't take a copy. At this point, you do a shout-out for someone to give you a copy of the contents you'd accidentally deleted. On Seat mib1 standard, that was done for two guys that failed the newbie test of not taking a copy before messing about with it. I pass on anything prior to mib1.
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Yes you sign up for a TomTom Mapshare account. http://www.tomtom.com/mapshare/tools Identify the missing bits and provide evidence as far as possible. You get a tick mark if accepted then wait a year or so for it to come out in the release. It's a production cycle. Depends where you enter into it. Crowd sourcing the missing stuff.
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I do it's all in the connection type. They shifted to modern connections with mib3. (USB C). https://www.viewsonic.com/library/tech/usb-c-usb-b-and-usb-a-whats-the-difference/ Left top line USB A = mib1 / 2 Right top line USB C = mib 3 / 4 That's the socket you'll plug a lead into the car's presented area for a USB cable.
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Mind you I think you will be unlucky from 350 on I reckon the Audi sourced files were released in mib2 high only http://map.audi-mib.ru/ This concurs with the 350 release coming out early and then the 370 only in the stripped down mib2 high only form. VW, Skoda and Seat followed suite with 370 only in mib2 high format. 350 was the last that covered mib1 and mib2 highs in a combined file for VW, Skoda and Seat. It's possible that Audi may run off a mib1 high version of 370 but you'd have to keep a lookout for it. The mib1 standard file was un expected arrival in 2023 after it was thought that mib1 standard map updates had finished. Something similar may occur in the future. Never say never.
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Good question the 370 release on the Skoda and VW sites was stripped to Columbus 2 only hence it's smaller: Question is whether the 370 release is knocking about on Columbus 1 only ones. Going to be on one of the Russian sites if so. They are Audi files which were traditionally shipped in three different forms, combined and separated to Columbus 1 and 2. You can't edit these yourself since they are signed.
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Yes (although early in the morning) it's the same trick as the Seat one I linked to which restarted this all off on the SeatCupra forum. Basically the units is hardwired via the software to the release as defined by the parameters that are given on the original card for PartNumber1="original field here" PartNumber="original field here" You edit in that original field for the two parameters and hack about the maps to fit 8gb original card or buy the newer mib2 card, 16gb to avoid the hacking but you still need to do the field edit. Back in 2016 or so people were hacking around these fields on Seat cars without mapcare that they never had, a small proportion got it to work but we never got down to the bottom of how they did it. Then the scent went dead. It must be newer firmware at the time and getting that edit correct. For Skoda if they had mapcare on them for life which I assume they did on the units, life must have died as far as using the newer files but the edit restores it. Those seriel numbers must be a predefined range of allowed up dates. Go out of that range and it can't be done but edit in the original parameters and you are fine. That edit would be new to Skoda users but not to a small band of diehard Seat users that never had mapcare. For UK people you can get the TMC working again as well with vcds / Obdeleven by just changing the tmc group from 15 to 14 (thats the mib2 high edit that works for mib1 standard and mib1 highs). We also established that if you haven't done it. That gets the car working with 2023 maps and TMC as delivered. This forum led with that one. I asked mib1 users whether that edit worked. Only for mib1 standard / high (Amer whats it and Columbus units), mib2 standard and it's editing the card and files and old maps. That's elsewhere on the board here.
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If you look at the Seat post I linked to you can see what they did. There are a number of posts where it's discussed. The cleanest approach is to just buy the 16gb MIB2 map card. The CID is recognized. Also when swapping cards you have to force a reboot into it. The long hold on on/off else it won't re read the data on the card. If you sit outside with your laptop and the unit doesn't power down. Needs 20 minutes, it won't re-read the card. So yes keep the existing card with the old maps on and copy the 106 image to a mib2 card. Any old cheap one will do off ebay. You just need the space of 16gb and the VAG CID on it.
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Could be 490 that is being talked about here.... you really need somebody who has done that map update on a Skoda unless it's only been done on Seats. @varooom just in case.
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If it's space you can buy a 16GB Mib2 VAG card and it will work if that's the problem. In Seat they have done both hacked the map down and some bought a replacement mib2 map card as I'd suggested since we knew they were compatible. However on Seat it seems you do need the Seat firmware update 0480. Also because of mapcare on Seats you do need to do a bit of editing to carry across your old map identity to frig it to work. It goes like this: >> I downloaded the P106_N60S3MIBS2_EU_NT (8V0060866S).7z from https://mibsolution.one/#/1. Extracted it to my HDD. I then removed a few files in the markets/eu/map/MapRegions folder. Ukraine and turkey stuff if I remember correctly, this made the files fit on the original card. Modified the DbInfo.txt by copying the original one from my map car and changing the last 2 lines to ApplicationSoftwareVersionNumber="0106" SystemName=" ECE 2023 " from the new map file. I then copied the contents of the original card to my HDD. << Resource of Seat and Mib1 and Mib2 https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/resources/updating-the-inbuilt-mib2-satnav-mib2-tricks-and-mib1.60/ It could be for Skoda mib1 there is some similar Skoda 0480 firmware that makes it work. Retrofitters have described the Seat one as "European" which might be code for it's been modded. Seat European boards were using P106_N60S3MIBS2_EU_NT with the text edit and 480 Seat firmware. Those that didn't want to buy a new Mib2 card for mib1 use just did the contents hack + edit 480. Do't reckon it works without the 480. Haven't come across any that have it working without the firmware update. It's a bit like witchcraft since few people back in 2016 or so with mib1 standard managed to do Seat map card updates as DIY. They ended up out of pocket. All had gone quite till that 106 release came along and across Seat boards it was found it was possible. It could be that Skoda just needs that text edit and not a firmware change. It is an Audi map update so that firmware plus the edits could be the special sauce. The mib enthusiasts may know. This post brought the Seat Mib1 updates back to life in the UK although earlier in the year a retrofitter for offering to it for a cost https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/updating-the-inbuilt-mib2-satnav-mib2-tricks-and-mib1.388586/page-138#post-5050968 The board link to European Seat success is given in that. It's been replicated.
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The 350 will if it's still live. On the tablet so can't check. Any of the files with 350 on them whatever the brand for Europe, they are all interchangeable between brands. All the same file.
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Currently you need to go back to the 350 release if you want a mib1 high compatible release. Eg. The November 2023 release. Audi always released these files split into two forms whilst the rest of the Vag group released as a combined file. Mib solutions site goes up and down so I can't check whether they have layed their hands on a mib1 370 only version, what they had earlier posted was the 370 mib2 high version the same as the one Russian sites had in February. That early version atleast for the UK didn't change as far as the data was concerned from the VW mib2 high only one. If you had a Mib2 high you could have happily used that as I did. It's possible the 370 mib1 high only one is leaked out from Russian sites that find this stuff but failing that you will have to make do with the 350 only combined release. The Audi site behind a Audi VIN paywall may hold a mib1 high version for 370 or they may have just dropped production. That may be the case given VW are only releasing the file in 370 mib2 high version. Where you hit Google looking for mib1 high 370. Failing that MartiniBs back post providing the 350 link I suspect will still index into a version.
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How does that compare with MartiniBs pinned file for 2024. VW one. You'd have to load it up. https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/513799-mib3-map-updates-2024/ I guess if it updates it's newer. Not sure whether we are with the June 2024 release. You'd have to register with VW and check. I don't think MartiniB has posted those up yet if a newer one has arrived. I'm waiting for a clever spark to publish how you derive the YY.MM in mib3 files. It's buried in Hex so a simple scan of the files doesn't show the date code.
