Im still on the technology that is CRT :(

so Kuros are the daddys now... what about the bravia?

Great if you like LCDs, but not so good if you like good contrast levels (not the artificially quoted ones that LCD manufactures espouse). Because of true blacks, colour tones are superb on some plasmas and although I think the Bravias are amazing for LCDs, they are still behind Plasmas if you like to watch movies as I do.

You didn’t expect me to agree with you, did you?:P:D

As for CRT, it still takes some beating, but nobody is doing HD large screen CRTs sadly:(. I dread to think of the depth of a 42” HD CRT, but it would be fun seeing one and I wouldn’t need a radiator on in the winter either.

Are you still up Col and editing your posts you little tinker?

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the best tv i have ever seen by far for quality is a pioneer kuro full hd plasma, awesome.

I agree and put my money up to support that belief. It really is CRT good.

Well I called the insurance company. They are sending an engineer around to see if it can be repaired, if it can't it will be replaced.

Fingers crossed for a new one then eh.

Plasma over LCD anyday imo, for reasons stated already.

If the insurance wont stretch to a KURO (I'd be very surprised if they did) then look at the Panasonic Plasmas. An exceptional mid range product imo.

When we were buying a 50" for the lounge beginning of this year, after many demo's, it came down to the Full HD Panny or the Pioneer KURO - no doubt about it, the KURO was the best; mainly due to its deep dark blacks, but was it £700 better?! I decided to go witht he Panny and bank the change.

Havent regretted it one bit and it does everthing well.

I have the Sony KDL40V4000 and cannot fault it, HD is outstanding and Blu-Ray is stunning.

Also a good price at the moment with the deals going round.

What's it like with standard Freeview pictures as that will still be a lot of what I watch.

What's it like with standard Freeview pictures as that will still be a lot of what I watch.

Are you viewing via an aerial or cable???

We are on Virgin as the whole town in cabled, so we can get digital and analogue via that cable, and although the picture quality is good on analogue, obviously it is not the same high quality as digital.

A mate who lives just outside the town has the "W" version on a normal aerial and its a great picture, although living in the Lea Valley there are some problems with reception for him as we are in a dip, and the transmitter is at Crystal Palace, and the dip dictates that he has to have a very high aerial.

Luckily on cable we do not get that problem.

My parents are still on their 15 year old Goodmans 20" and my grandfather is still on a 28 year old Ferguson. If it ain't broke.....

I have a 5 year old 28" JVC CRT and it will be there till it goes bang which hopefully won't be for another 10 years!

I know several people in a similar position, and lots more who only replace telly because they "break beyond economic repair".

Don't be a girl, it's high time you invested in one of these:

De Plane! De Plane! What does Ross want Tattoo for?

I bought a tv from John Lewis 2 yrs ago and I'm praying that it breaks at 4yrs old (I hope they're still in business)

Are you viewing via an aerial or cable???

We are on Virgin as the whole town in cabled, so we can get digital and analogue via that cable, and although the picture quality is good on analogue, obviously it is not the same high quality as digital.

A mate who lives just outside the town has the "W" version on a normal aerial and its a great picture, although living in the Lea Valley there are some problems with reception for him as we are in a dip, and the transmitter is at Crystal Palace, and the dip dictates that he has to have a very high aerial.

Luckily on cable we do not get that problem.

I have freeview and do most of the viewing on my Humax PVR9200T which will be connected via SCART

Pioneer Kuro. Accept no substitute. Best tellies in the real world.

having had a demo...totally agree, although to cut costs(?) they seem to be going LCD too :mecry: you need something like a PDP-LX508D :drool:

Aren't the smaller ones LCD?

Spending over 2 grand on a 50" plasma is way beyond what most people want to spend

LCD is cheaper to produce and generally considered inferior as a standard to Plasma. The clever thing is the manufacturers have invested heavily in bringing LCD up to scratch and have, by and large achieve this. LCDs really are very good now at the top end, but Plasma is still king for absolute picture quality. This isn’t just my opinion it is the opinion of ALL the Vision engineers I have every discussed this with (several of them) and also that of all magazine writers (they have no axe to grind as most manufacturers produce LCD and Plasma) at least in the case of KURO tellies.

Pioneer is going into business with Panasonic to produce the next generation of KURO tellies, so we will still have them for the short term future at least. Perhaps I should start saving for the OLED tvs now

having had a demo...totally agree, although to cut costs(?) they seem to be going LCD too :mecry: you need something like a PDP-LX508D :drool:

I agree as well, pioneer are not going LCD though. They are instead going to be sourcing their plasma panels from Panasonic rather than make their own. The current range of Kuros will be the last made with pioneer panels, the next gen will be panasonic.

I have a Panasonic 42-PZ81 set as I could not afford the cost of the pioneer, I will never buy an LCD TV, to me the picture looks to processed and unnatural unlike the current range of plasmas which have a very CRT like picture.

Try watching sport on an LCD and the motion blur will put you right off the technology. When panning during a football game for example, on LCD the pitch side adverts to do disappear into a blurry mush. On my plasma they remain sharp and readable.

not all LCD's are that bad manny, our full HD LG LCD is pretty decent but its nothing compared to the huro :(

but our 42" LG cost £900 and the 50" KURO we wanted was something like £3500 :eek:

anyway andrew what you want is the PDP-LX6080

I think my 42” Kuro is around £1,200 now, so it isn’t that expensive for the IQ. There is so much more to a good picture than just pixels:thumbup:

Also, I'd NEVEr have a Fony Bravia, as its simply a rebadged Samsung, which costs loads more. Samsung TV's are impressive, so why pay for the Sony name?

That's not entirely true.

The panels are the same, but the electronics which drive them are developed independantly by each company's R&D team.

You statement is a bit like saying a Seat Leon Cupra is the same thing as a Skoda Octy vRS, so why pay more for the Seat considering the engines are the same. OK, that's probably a bad example on this forum

Ross, if you do decide to get a new telly and if you do decide to get an LCD and if you do decide to get a bravia, let me know, I might be able to help

Just had a call. They are replacing it with a Panasonic PZ85

Asked me if I wanted LCD or Plasma, I kept with plasma. Sald they dont do or stock LG but they can offer the Panasonic, will be delivered on Friday.

Yay.

The PZ85 is a really good tv, and will make a perfect replacement.

Glad to hear it.

The chap at the place who is dealing with it certianly seemed impressed with them and tbh as long as I have another big TV soon I dont care..lol.

Just had a call. They are replacing it with a Panasonic PZ85

Asked me if I wanted LCD or Plasma, I kept with plasma. Sald they dont do or stock LG but they can offer the Panasonic, will be delivered on Friday.

Yay.

Nice telly, you should see a noticeable improvement in picture quality too:thumbup:

Next question.

My Xbox 360 was connected to the LG via a component lead.

Being as the Panasonic is a propper 1080 HDTV is it possible/worth connecting the Xbox via a HDMI cable???

if you have an xbox with hdmi, then yes the picture will be far better.

One tip for the pz85, turn overscan off when watch a HD source to get proper 1:1 pixel mapping. Leave it on for normal SD to avoid seeing the teletext data on screen.

A good result there mate.

My parents recently made a claim with Dom Gen insurance for their manky old CRT which came to an early demise. D&G were excellent and he got a nice Samsung 42' Plasma as a replacement.

excellent result there rossmatic