I've just had my rear tyres replaced after 10 000miles with the following wear pattern:-

Outside edge - 6mm tread left

Inside edge - steel wire showing.

I reckon they were perilously close to a blow out.

What could have caused this?

I check tyre pressures regularly from cold at home with a digital gauge and so they are always 2bar, there or there abouts. I am obviously a bit lax on checking the whole tyre, but I think this degree of abnormal wear after 4months is a cause for concern.

Both sides are equal and the car has done 40000miles. The tyres on the rear for the first 30000miles were replaced due to "saw-toothing".

The car had a 4 wheel alignment at this tyre change by a Skoda dealer.

Is it true that the rear wheels have no adjustment in them?

Thanks in advance.

Steve

I have a similar symptom appearing on the nsf, presume it is the camber that is out and will be getting it checked soonest.

Dunlop Tyres UK

That is what I think but apparently the Octavia has no camber adjustment on the back without resorting to shims - or so I have been told.

My suspicions are that the 4 wheel alignment that was carried out was done incorrectly. No problems before but HUGE ones after....

Regards

Steve

This is an occurance that we have discussed on numerous occasions over here in Ireland.

If you stand back from the rear of the car, u shud notice that there is a fairly highly inclination toe angle on both rear wheels. This gives the wheels the look that the "top" of the wheels is angled towards the car and the "bottom" of the wheel is angled away from the car..

If you then think about it for a minute you should come to the conclusion that due to this toe angle the inside of the wheel will be in contact with the road moreso that the outside of the wheel. this has caught a few lads out, because from a quick look, the tyre appears perfect, but on closer inspection you may notise excessive and uneven wear of the tyre on the inner half of the tyre...

I have been doin a bit a of scouting, and a found that there is a spacer kit available to correct the angle of the wheel and this may improve the tyre wear pattern. However, this change in angle may disrupt the overall set-up of the car, and as yet i have not beenable to find out any effects...

Hope this helps you,

Tom

Is this any use to you:

Octavia-vRS.com - Octavia A5 Common or Known Problems and Issues

Rear Camber Values

Due to a number of complaints regarding rear tyre noise and wear on Octavia A5 vehicles, the rear camber values can be changed to the following settings -

Old values are: -1°45' ± 30'

New values are: -1°20' ± 30'

This information applies to Standard and Sport suspension.

Thanks.

This wear is a bit more than uneven wear and has only happened in 10000miles, the previous 30k miles being fine. However, I'll find out if the dealer fitted any spacers at the last alignment check.

Would any Skoda dealers/mechanics care to comment?

Steve

Picture tells a thousand words.

Steve

Go to a decent allignment place (star performance etc) and get allignment checked there. If its way out it would cause that sort of wear.

Steve

I'd love to but it's a co. car and the Lease company only have accounts with the main dealers or ATS. Rock and a hard place. I'm considering taking it to Buckley Tyres in North Wales though and paying out of my own pocket.

However, I now have conflicting info. Is the camber, toe or caster adjustable at the rear of an Octavia. The link above suggests it is, but other threads say not and my Skoda Dealer say it isn't and they couldn't possibly have messed up the settings on the car:mad:

Steve

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Christ!! Steve you were lucky, glad it was spotted before anything did happen

My vRS was wearing in the same pattern as yours. Took it to dealer and they booked it into the place they use for 4 wheel alignment checking. It can be adjusted, and it's the camber angle that needs attention. When mine was done they said that the alignment centre had never seen a car as spot on for settings ever, and it's done 35,000 miles (apart from the rear camber on the nsr).

Maybe try booking it in at Telfords in Carlisle while your in Cumbria, where I took mine. They then take it literally across the road to Lloyds Bodyworks to have the alignment done, for which it cost me £70.50

I've also changed to a different trye brand as well, maybe what was on didn't suit as they had gone slightly out of shape.

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Steve

ouchy - have you ever struck a kerb?

ouchy - have you ever struck a kerb?

Never. The state of the alloys will testify to that. also, both sides are the same which rules out potholes, kerbing or impact damage which I'm sure the dealer will blame rather than his poor alignment.

Steve

I'd love to but it's a co. car and the Lease company only have accounts with the main dealers or ATS. Rock and a hard place. I'm considering taking it to Buckley Tyres in North Wales though and paying out of my own pocket.

However, I now have conflicting info. Is the camber, toe or caster adjustable at the rear of an Octavia. The link above suggests it is, but other threads say not and my Skoda Dealer say it isn't and they couldn't possibly have messed up the settings on the car:mad:

Steve

Camber is the issue, see tomo 1971's link. Its happened a few cars. Its is adjustable, if its a lease company car then go back to main dealers, expalin the problem and see what they have to say (bring tyre or photo). If they don't act then get onto the lease company and let them sort it. After all 10k on the rear is a joke, and dangerous. Also better get it done sooner than later as your now wearing a set of new rubber excessively on the inside:)

my Skoda Dealer say it isn't and they couldn't possibly have messed up the settings on the car:mad:

Steve

They really need to contact Skoda UK and find out exactly what they are at. My dealer didn't know about it either until I mentioned it to him.

Yup, take Stu's info to the dealer to resolve.

You say company car. Is the boot loaded with crap by any chance? The crud they make us carry means the Mondys kill the inside edges and a set is lucky to last 25k.

10k is shocking, and either a set up issue or driving style issue.

You say company car. Is the boot loaded with crap by any chance? The crud they make us carry means the Mondys kill the inside edges and a set is lucky to last 25k.

10k is shocking, and either a set up issue or driving style issue.

That was the excuse used on a friends before, but would I be right in thinking that the more weight the less camber, ie the wheel would go more towards the vertical (in my head I'm trying to relate it back to the RC car and which way it works , I probably have it wrong).

Is the boot loaded with crap by any chance?

If they do mention it you could always ask why such a big bott is provided

This is an occurance that we have discussed on numerous occasions over here in Ireland.

If you stand back from the rear of the car, u shud notice that there is a fairly highly inclination toe angle on both rear wheels. This gives the wheels the look that the "top" of the wheels is angled towards the car and the "bottom" of the wheel is angled away from the car..

If you then think about it for a minute you should come to the conclusion that due to this toe angle the inside of the wheel will be in contact with the road moreso that the outside of the wheel. this has caught a few lads out, because from a quick look, the tyre appears perfect, but on closer inspection you may notise excessive and uneven wear of the tyre on the inner half of the tyre...

I have been doin a bit a of scouting, and a found that there is a spacer kit available to correct the angle of the wheel and this may improve the tyre wear pattern. However, this change in angle may disrupt the overall set-up of the car, and as yet i have not beenable to find out any effects...

Hope this helps you,

Tom

Hey Tom, I think you have Toe and Camber mixed up. Camber is when you look from in front or from behind, Toe is when you look down on the top of the car.

Re-spacer kits, how can you be sure this will give you the correct amount? It is possible to have the Camber adjusted, I know Skoda done one car in Belgard Motors as they had the correct equipment recognised by them. In my opinion I think an adjustment would be better than a spacer, especially as the correct values are available

Thanks for your help everyone.

I was pretty sure that the camber was at fault but was thrown by the fact that the dealer said that the rear geometry wasn't adjustable (so they come all set from doweled rigs at the factory). I'm going to get the alignment measured by an indy and take the evidence to the dealer.

Steve

PS The only thing that is usually in the boot is a bag full of PPE (hard hat, boots, overalls etc.)

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Oh dear, my rear tyres have done 45K miles and are still worn evenly across the whole tread.

When getting the allignment checked, take to somewhere who has proper equipment. Not all can measure camber.

Before the car went to Skoda in June, the rear tyres had done 30000 miles with even tread accross the width. They were only replaced as they were saw toothed.

Steve

I'd love to but it's a co. car and the Lease company only have accounts with the main dealers or ATS. Rock and a hard place. I'm considering taking it to Buckley Tyres in North Wales though and paying out of my own pocket.

Steve

got mine done at buckley tyres after the original fronts wore on the inside. very good service there and I think they were upgrading their kit again soon after I went to a newer system

My rears were the same - outer edges were fine, the inner edge was down to the canvas. Only noticed when I dropped something under the car :eek:

2 dealers have been quite unhelpful when asked about the problem. I too am thinking of going for the full geomety check out of my own pocket. Then i'll approach SUK and see what they say.

Yes I have some weight in the back of the car but it shouldn't make the tyres wear like this :thumbdwn:

Hey Tom, I think you have Toe and Camber mixed up. Camber is when you look from in front or from behind, Toe is when you look down on the top of the car.

Re-spacer kits, how can you be sure this will give you the correct amount? It is possible to have the Camber adjusted, I know Skoda done one car in Belgard Motors as they had the correct equipment recognised by them. In my opinion I think an adjustment would be better than a spacer, especially as the correct values are available

You are correct GAFF, Bit of a mixup between toe and chamber:O As for the Shims/ Spacers we didn't like the look of the whole idea.. Saw that link bt Tom1971, sounds like the best option !!

Just wondering, can't see it mentioned in any post yet, but what make/model of tyre is it that you have trashed?

IIRC from other threads Dunlops fare badly for uneven rear tyre wear.

Dunlops are terrible.

We see the same type of tyre wear on anything A5, 3C Passats are awful for it.