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Scout Tyres - Good Year 4 Seasons?

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I'm looking at alternatives for a new set of all season tyres for the Scout (in that rare size 225/50/17).

Has anybody had any experience of the Good Year 4 Seasons tyres? At around £140 per tyre! :o

Other alternative I'm thinking about is the Nokian WR G2 (but am put off by the fact it is mostly a winter tyre according to their website).

Would have liked the Vredestein Quatrac 3, but it isn't available in this size. :rotz:

Vredestein Quatrac 3? I know they they do 225/45-17 but just checked on Mr Google.You are right

I used Quatrac 2 as an all year round tyre on a Passat without problems.Looks like there are just winter tyres available in your size.

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I'm looking at alternatives for a new set of all season tyres for the Scout (in that rare size 225/50/17).

Has anybody had any experience of the Good Year 4 Seasons tyres? At around £140 per tyre! :o

Other alternative I'm thinking about is the Nokian WR G2 (but am put off by the fact it is mostly a winter tyre according to their website).

Would have liked the Vredestein Quatrac 3, but it isn't available in this size. :rotz:

Going to have the same problem in the future as the Yeti I have ordered has the same daft tyre size.

The Goodyear's look ideal though.

Only slight issue is they are 'H' rated and although this rating exceeds the max speed of both Scout & Yeti, there may be an insurance 'get out' for not having the recommended rating as they are factory fitted with 'W'.

Another option could be the Bridgestone Dueler HP Sport which is an SUV tyre but road orientated and more expensive.

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I agree about the Dunlop SP1's they certainly leave something to be desired on any ice/snow/mud etc. It was very embarrassing in last winters snow to have a 4x4 with all the wheels fighting for grip.

The Goodyear Vectors look like the answer, though having tried local tyre places they deny there existance. Rather than buy them seperately and getting them fitted does anybody know of a tyre place in the Bucks/Berks/Oxon region that can get them.

Thanks in advance for any replies.

Other alternative I'm thinking about is the Nokian WR G2 (but am put off by the fact it is mostly a winter tyre according to their website).

I would certainly consider the Nokian WR G2 (I am using the WR but not had them on long enough to give you a decent review yet). They are actually sold as all-season in the US/Canada, curiously.

As long as you don't intend doing any high speed cornering in the summer, I don't think you'll have a problem, and they have a good reputation for wear. I think they have a wear rating in the 400's, for what it's worth. That's the WR mind, not the WR G2.

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I agree about the Dunlop SP1's they certainly leave something to be desired on any ice/snow/mud etc. It was very embarrassing in last winters snow to have a 4x4 with all the wheels fighting for grip.

The Goodyear Vectors look like the answer, though having tried local tyre places they deny there existance. Rather than buy them seperately and getting them fitted does anybody know of a tyre place in the Bucks/Berks/Oxon region that can get them.

Thanks in advance for any replies.

Same problem here, tyre places seem to be mostly ignorant! One of them had never even heard of Nokian, another told me that they couldn't tell me what type of tyre they were quoting for all they knew was the brand! :eek:

Where did you buy them? Not sure I understand how buying through mytyres works... :(

mytyres :)

Basically ignore mytyres fitted prices and just order the tyres you want from the website.

Look at the list of approved fitters in your area, then phone them and get a price for fitting from them and choose which you want to go to.

Get them delivered to whichever of their fitting stations you chose (it's an option).

Turn up with your car and the tyre place will fit them.

You pay mytyres for the tyre and you pay the fitters for fitting.

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Thanks for that.

So the next question is what would be the impact of changing from 225/50/17 94W to 225/50/17 98V XL?

Obviously reducing the speed rating a bit but that seems normal for a winter / all season tyre, but the question is whether the increase weight rating and "XL" is likely to be an issue?

Doubt it would be an issue, but i'm pretty certain the WR and WR-G2 are available in 94V.

It might be worth getting some 16" wheels and putting winter tyres on them if you can as there are few 17" winter tyres available compared to 16" tyres.

Only slight issue is they are 'H' rated and although this rating exceeds the max speed of both Scout & Yeti, there may be an insurance 'get out' for not having the recommended rating as they are factory fitted with 'W'.

I have just purchased 4x 205/55R16 Vredestein Snowtrac 3 (91H) for my Scout to go on some 16" steels I purchased earlier this year.

Page 227 of the manual states that "you can fit winter tyres of a lower speed category to your vehicle provided that you do not drive faster than the maxiumum permissible speed for such tyres..." .

Personally going over 125mph (H rating) in my Scout on winter roads is not likley :D. I doubt if an insurance company would query against Skoda's owner manual.

On the Autobahn going to ski in the Alps, you might appreciate so speedy wintertyres :D.

On the Autobahn going to ski in the Alps, you might appreciate so speedy wintertyres :D.

I'm for saving the planet, 55mph all the way ;)

I'll just put a piece of advice, which is if anyone reading this is after Nokian tyres, then go for the WR-G2 and not the WR.

My reason for saying this is that the WR are very hard, if not impossible to get hold of in the UK, so if you have a puncture (like I did) you will have to replace with WR-G2 if it isn't repairable.

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Nokian WR-G2s now on order... ;)

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Nokian WR-G2s now on order... ;)

Just cancelled the order as had an email from mytyres requiring me to fax them a copy of a utility bill. I asked them for their justification and the response made no sense at all. :mad:

So my try pneu-online now. This shouldn't be so complicated :rolleyes:

My reason for saying this is that the WR are very hard, if not impossible to get hold of in the UK, so if you have a puncture (like I did) you will have to replace with WR-G2 if it isn't repairable.

My plan is to have a couple of my own personal stock kept in the garage for when the need arises, although I may be wasting my money if the car gets nicked or crashed or I have an incident a very long way from home...

Do you think the WR will be phased out in favour of the WR-G2?

I'm writing from Finland, and I wouldnt use anything but the home-grown Nokian studded tyres in winter. We have a choice, friction tyre or studded tyre.

The Nokian WR G2 (IIRC) is a friction tyre, and I'm not sure why someone would need one in Berkshire. :confused:

All-season tyres sound like a good idea, but in my opinion they don't do either job well. If you need a winter tyre, fit them, if you need a summer tyre, fit them. Yes all-season friction tyres can be driven all year around, but they don't give the same performance in dry/wet conditions as a summer tyre. And I just don't see there being enough ice around in Berkshire to warrant the use of a friction tyre.

Just my advice. :)

Just cancelled the order as had an email from mytyres requiring me to fax them a copy of a utility bill. I asked them for their justification and the response made no sense at all. :mad:

So my try pneu-online now. This shouldn't be so complicated :rolleyes:

I have had good mail order service from Black Circles, Camskill and Tyremen in the past with no problems over payment and excellent prices. Sometimes Camskill don't have the stock, but Tyremen seem to have a large stock of most things.

Just seen your location, you should also try Micheldever Tyre & Auto Services

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The Nokian WR G2 (IIRC) is a friction tyre, and I'm not sure why someone would need one in Berkshire.

Well it is partly down to how and when you use the car. 90% of my mileage is done in the early hours of the morning and late at night. In the morning I would say that the temperature from November to March rarely exceeds 7 degrees C which is the tipping point between winter & summer tyres (the average for where I live in the last 2 years has been 3 degrees C during the winter months).

Secondly the roads I drive on are small, slippery and icy more often than not. Braking performance is compromised on summer tyres in those conditions.

Finally I drive a fair bit down unmade roads and am interested in a tread which will provide a bit more grip.

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