i've got the vrs booked into R-tech on the 23 of this month for a re-map and he has offered me either

Around 175bhp with 300ft/lb or

Cant remember the bhp but with 330ft/lb!

Am not sure whitch one to go for tho!

The vrs has nearly 75k on the clock am just wondering when will my clutch go or will it more or less go sraight away!

the clutch will be pushed beyond its limit at 330lb/ft, especially at 75k miles

you are better going for the lower horsepower/torque figure

The car will cope fine.

with an uprated clutch!

Depends in what condition your clutch is in at the moment.

But I would recommend budgeting for a new uprated clutch anyway..........then you can use all the torque that the engine will produce.

Edited 7 January, 201016 yr by Jon TDI

I would recommend budgeting for an uprated clutch as well.

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Strange, Nick at R-tech wanted to map mine to 300lb-ft because he said anything like 330 is too much for the Fabia chassis :think:

E-MAIL FROM NICK@R-TECH TO ME

PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING FIRST

That was only part of the e-mail.

It was a respone to a question I asked about hybrid turbos and mapping them.

I also told him I HAVE an uprated Sachs clutch fitted (good for 410lb-ft) hence why he didn't mention it there.

R-Tech get nothing but praise so please don't take that e-mail the wrong way.

R-Tech Feedback

"Our full 130pd Stage 2 performance remap will give your car 185+bhp 340lbft which IMO is far too much for the Fabia chassis as its too light to use all the power and make the most of it, you would be best of with a custom remap detuned from the spec2 to keep the torque to 300lbft and the power to 170bhp BUT…. Keeping the torque and power curve flat across the whole of the rpm range. Ie bring the torque in early and hold it and spike it plus 170bhp constant from 3200rpm right up to 4700rpm, remapping in the manner will make the car quick than the similar car with 20bhp &40lbft more power at the peak. Trust me you will love it. I come from a motorsport background and know how to make fast cars, not peak pub talk bhp figures. I think we have some of the highest torque outputs UK for the stock VNT17 turbos 352lbft, if you had a heavier car line the Passat, Leon or golf then the 340lbft would be fine for every day use. But your Fabia with a good map to 300lbft would nail Leon with 340lbft.

I offer some of the very best 130TDI remap around for power and drivability.

The full custom rolling road remap which will be a total one off to your car will set you back £285 all Inc.

Nick"

Edited 8 January, 201016 yr by Yohan

"Our full 130pd Stage 2 performance remap will give your car 185+bhp 340lbft which IMO is far too much for the Fabia chassis as its too light to use all the power and make the most of it, you would be best of with a custom remap detuned from the spec2 to keep the torque to 300lbft and the power to 170bhp BUT…. Keeping the torque and power curve flat across the whole of the rpm range. Ie bring the torque in early and hold it and spike it plus 170bhp constant from 3200rpm right up to 4700rpm, remapping in the manner will make the car quick than the similar car with 20bhp &40lbft more power at the peak. Trust me you will love it. I come from a motorsport background and know how to make fast cars, not peak pub talk bhp figures. I think we have some of the highest torque outputs UK for the stock VNT17 turbos 352lbft, if you had a heavier car line the Passat, Leon or golf then the 340lbft would be fine for every day use. But your Fabia with a good map to 300lbft would nail Leon with 340lbft.

I offer some of the very best 130TDI remap around for power and drivability.

The full custom rolling road remap which will be a total one off to your car will set you back £285 all Inc.

Nick"

hey mate do u work at R-tech?? i've bee quoted £250 all in!

Nope, that e-mail was from Nick to me for a custom map.

Nope, that e-mail was from Nick to me for a custom map.

where is he based?

You have no chance on original clutch that has done 75k miles with 330+lbs.

Go for the big power/big torque options and buy an uprated clutch.

I know where NOT to take my car now... not one query about the nick of your turbo and clutch...

Stage 2 with standard turbo?, detuned stage 2? so a stage 1 then...:wonder:. The chasis?!, nothing to do with the diff then?

"...and know how to make fast cars" Meight... you tune dervs!

Edited 7 January, 201016 yr by P13SST

i will uprate the clutch but after the map i wont have cash straight away to do it! wot about the flywheel dont i need to change that??

I know where NOT to take my car now... not one query about the nick of your turbo and clutch...

Stage 2 with standard turbo?, detuned stage 2? so a stage 1 then...:wonder:. The chasis?!, nothing to do with the diff then?

"...and know how to make fast cars" Meight... you tune dervs!

That was only part of the e-mail.

I was in discussion with him about hybrid turbos and mapping them.

I also told him I have an uprated Sachs clutch fitted hence why he didn't mention it there.

R-Tech get nothing but praise so please don't take that e-mail the wrong way.

edit - Updated original post to save confusion and misleading people.

Edited 8 January, 201016 yr by Yohan

i seem to hear a lot of people have the uprated Sachs clutches! r these the best for the fabia? but wot about the dmf tho?

My graph!

I actually didn't know you could map 340lbsft on a standard VNT17 turbo. I didn't think this was possible? Has anyone actually witnessed this or ran one at this figure for any length of time?

Surely this would not be healthy for the VNT17. I just can't see one lasting long with this sort of figure. :S

Edited 8 January, 201016 yr by Sausage Roll

It's possible but it wouldn't last long!!

Re: the clutch, with a stage 1 revo at about 40k on the clock my clutch was slipping within a week so had a Sachs installed and its all good now.

when u install a sash clutch does people change the dmf to a smf the same time?

You don't have but, again, it depends in what condition your existing flywheel is in.

Had uprated to a Helix clutch & single mass flywheel. If you're not bothered about the rattle on idle then I can highly recommend it.

I actually didn't know you could map 340lbsft on a standard VNT17 turbo. I didn't think this was possible? Has anyone actually witnessed this or ran one at this figure for any length of time?

Surely this would not be healthy for the VNT17. I just can't see one lasting long with this sort of figure. :S

The turbo in question in Nick was referring to was a HYBRID.

I actually didn't know you could map 340lbsft on a standard VNT17 turbo. I didn't think this was possible? Has anyone actually witnessed this or ran one at this figure for any length of time?

Surely this would not be healthy for the VNT17. I just can't see one lasting long with this sort of figure. :S

my vrs with the standard kkk turbo was running 346ft lbs

It's possible but it wouldn't last long!!

it will last if you drive properly,2 years and its still going strong!!!

That's impressive.

So people only really go hybrid to get the bhp figure higher then?