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Common Rail Engine and Millers?

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Wondering if anyone runs a diesel VRS with the CR engine and has used Deisel Power Sport 4 in the tank?

Used to run it in my Fabia VRS and got reasonably good results (Less soot and 8-9% mpg increase) and unproven better bhp (felt better)

Is it possible to put it in the Octy as i've still got half a bttle kicking around.

Scott

Shouldn't have a problem, I used it on my previous car virtually all the time & it was fine.

I would be less sure using it on a CR unit. Using it with a PD unit has been proven to be OK.

The CR unit works to far tigher tolerances; I would check with Millers direct, to be on the safe side.

Steve

Wondering if anyone runs a diesel VRS with the CR engine and has used Deisel Power Sport 4 in the tank?

Used to run it in my Fabia VRS and got reasonably good results (Less soot and 8-9% mpg increase) and unproven better bhp (felt better)

Is it possible to put it in the Octy as i've still got half a bttle kicking around.

Scott

I'd be careful - there's something in the owners manual saying don't put any additives in. It may invalidate any warranty claim should you develop any engine faults (if they ever found out you'd put any in that is).

Bob

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run it in a few other common rail engines, ford, mazda and renault. never had an issue

Oh goody - another "should I use an additive or not" thread!!!

Ask yourself the questions;

  1. why do I need to use it?
  2. will it make a difference (placebo effect anyone?!)
  3. is there a possibility however remote that it could break my multi-thousand ££ engine?
  4. is there a question mark over the warranty implications?
  5. should I just leave it alone?
  6. go to point 1 again

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Oh goody - another "should I use an additive or not" thread!!!

Ask yourself the questions;

  1. why do I need to use it?
  2. will it make a difference (placebo effect anyone?!)
  3. is there a possibility however remote that it could break my multi-thousand ££ engine?
  4. is there a question mark over the warranty implications?
  5. should I just leave it alone?
  6. go to point 1 again

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i used this on my previous car a ford focus tdci and found that it made no difference what so ever so wouldn't bother taking this risk, try using shell vpower diesel i found that this produced less soot and better mpg with the added benefit of not invalidating your warranty.

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Oh goody - another "should I use an additive or not" thread!!!

Ask yourself the questions;

  1. why do I need to use it? Wondering if will return better fuel economy
  2. will it make a difference (placebo effect anyone?!) did in my PD130 as i said in origonal post and i have numbers that back it up. so i don't think it's placebo
  3. is there a possibility however remote that it could break my multi-thousand ££ engine? That's why i'm asking
  4. is there a question mark over the warranty implications? Well if there's a heightened risk of anything happening then i wouldn't use it, again i refer you to that is why i'm asking
  5. should I just leave it alone? Maybe, maybe not. Its worked for me in the past and in theory it should work again.
  6. go to point 1 again

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Thanks for your constructive input!

I have used Millers from the old diesel clean to the more modern products and it has a lot more effect on cleaning things out on cars of various ages than "V-Power" and costs a fraction of the amount per litre too.

It's excellent as a pre-MOT clean up and actually does smooth things a bit.

The bottle said suitable for CR, but they have just rebranded it so you would have to look at it again and confirm with millers.

The manual says don't use additives, but then they also say don't do a lot of things.

At the end of the day it's really your choice and you have to base it on the information you have to hand.

I've got a bottle of millers in my office drawer... I tried running some through a tank when my car was running like a

pile of pooh. Put it in my office drawer once the car was recovered to the garage again.

Not thought about using it since the car was fixed (crankshart sensor it seems), but got to say I am tempted to give it

a go as the old oil burner doesn't exactly set the road on fire, not that I'm expecting rempa results from a fuel additive.

I remember one guy who ran it in a 1.9 PD saying he didn't notice the difference until he stopped using it.

Used it on my Touareg with 3.0 TDI CR engine without problem. Millers didn't respond to my query on the advantages of the new product over DPS4 which I had bought a case load of at £6.30 a bottle. The new one sells for £12.99 (£10.39 on trade card) at Halfords.

Suspect VW group says "don't use additives" as a catch-all and really relates to the addition of small amounts of petrol to reduce the effect of diesel waxing at low temperatures in "the old days" before the sophistication and tolerances of todays engines made it critical.

Oh well - at least I can continue to use it in my Aga....(only kidding, but there is an equivalent product).

I've been using it in our 56 reg 60,000 mile PD VRS which incidently is always run on decent ie not supermarket fuel , not noticed any difference in performance i defy most people to feel small hp increases anyhow but the fact remains the car now starts easier and it doing 3-4mpg more than it was based on fill to fill comparisons

(Less soot and 8-9% mpg increase) and unproven better bhp (felt better)

9% seriously? How many miles/tanks of fuel did you test it over?

I'd be up for some if it really put my MPG up by 9%.

Feck - have I been using the wrong stuff ?

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Anyone else and i'd think they were joking but you Bryan i could believe would actually be that stooopid :p

Carl :thumbup:

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9% seriously? How many miles/tanks of fuel did you test it over?

I'd be up for some if it really put my MPG up by 9%.

well a fairly consistent 34-35mpg over 16months that went up to 37-39mpg (50 mpg on a 2000 mile trip to France with a full complement of passergers and luggage) over 9months in my old fabia.

I use it in the fabia and have been thinking about using it in the Octavia. Generally it seems to run aliitle smooth, slightly less smokie and returns maybe a little more to the tank. My main reason for using it is to keep everything in top working order.

lol @ Brimma the miller sport 4 gives you a blinding hangover!

lol @ Brimma the miller sport 4 gives you a blinding hangover!

Presumably odourless flatulence as well ?

Presumably odourless flatulence as well ?

indeed the co2 level is down and I have a much smoother toot!

I find the results to be smoother running, a little less noise during warm up and slightly less soot. And I can tell when I run a tank without it. So on that basis I'll continue to use it :thumbup:

Steve

Where's the cheapest place to buy it? I might give it a go.

Well, I stuck some millers in the tank before I filled up last night. Only done 20-30 miles since, so I might be

imagining things, but it seems to be a little smoother on this tank !

The 150 mile Friday commute will give me a better idea !

Where's the cheapest place to buy it? I might give it a go.

I've seen it in Halfords for £12.

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Well, I stuck some millers in the tank before I filled up last night. Only done 20-30 miles since, so I might be

imagining things, but it seems to be a little smoother on this tank !

The 150 mile Friday commute will give me a better idea !

Thats what i'm after, someone else to take the chance first :p

Report back when you've gotten a bit further. won't need to fuel up for a week so i'll be doing it then

Thanks

Millers is basically the chemical 2 ethylhexyl nitrate ("2EHN" a Cetane improver) mixed with kerosene. You can buy a litre of 2EHN for about £15 and a teaspoonfull is equivalent to about 100ml of Millers. Why you would want to put this in your fuel is beyond me though (standard diesel sold in the UK is of good quality).

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