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Where would you start looking for 2EHN ??

Where would you start looking for 2EHN ??

You should have added: Without being hauled in by the anti terrorist squad.

2EHN is readily available, try Ebay. It is also sold under a variety of names and widely used by the biodiesel fraternity to make their fuels usable. Look for brands such as 'Veggie Boost'. Expect to pay £12-£20 a litre. You don't need it with conventional diesel though, and VAG caution against using fuel additives. Strong placebo effect though.

You should have added: Without being hauled in by the anti terrorist squad.

Why, do you have a good recipe I should know about ??

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2EHN is readily available, try Ebay. It is also sold under a variety of names and widely used by the biodiesel fraternity to make their fuels usable. Look for brands such as 'Veggie Boost'. Expect to pay £12-£20 a litre. You don't need it with conventional diesel though, and VAG caution against using fuel additives. Strong placebo effect though.

I rest my case and end my "constructive critisism"!

The placebo effect should not be underestimated and there are better things to spend money on. Diesel sold in the UK is very high quality so adding some 2EHN in the minute quantities Millers use in this product is simply not going to do anything.

Seriously guys, I'm a complete and utter audio geek and if you really want to understand the placebo effect check out high end audio. Isolation pods to lift your speaker cables off the floor, green pens to use on the edges of your CD's and do a search for Peter Belt. This is the guy who advocated putting small metallic stickers on light switches. One of his little gems is recommending that the listener drink Polarized Water – which is is a drinkable water produced by (wait for it) placing a bottle or glass of water contained in a non-magnetic container to the north pole of a moderately-strong magnet - like loudspeaker and guitar pickup magnets - for 2 to 5 minutes. The listener drinks it in order to notice a marked improvement in sound quality of one’s audio gear.

I **** you not, there are people out there who swear this improves the sound.

Nuff said!

One of his little gems is recommending that the listener drink Polarized Water – which is is a drinkable water produced by (wait for it) placing a bottle or glass of water contained in a non-magnetic container to the north pole of a moderately-strong magnet - like loudspeaker and guitar pickup magnets - for 2 to 5 minutes. The listener drinks it in order to notice a marked improvement in sound quality of one’s audio gear.

I **** you not, there are people out there who swear this improves the sound.

Nuff said!

Amazing. Unbelievableemoticon-0104-surprised.gif

I have a glass of beer (Millers of courseemoticon-0136-giggle.gif) and turn the volume upemoticon-0103-cool.gif Does it for meemoticon-0148-yes.gif

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Thats what i'm after, someone else to take the chance first :p

Report back when you've gotten a bit further. won't need to fuel up for a week so i'll be doing it then

Thanks

Well, thats the first tank with millers treatment nearly done. Think it runs slightly better, but its certainly hasn't had any

negitive effects so far !

OK lets just forget about an potential damage that this stuff may or may not do to the engine (personally I don't think it will cause any issues whatsoever) and just concentrate on the additional costs; Lets call it £10 for a 500ml bottle. Thats 10 x 50ml shots per bottle (although you can use it double concentrate at 100ml). Octy has a 50 litre tank so thats an additional 2p per litre or £1 per tank at standard concentration and 4p a litre / £2 per tank at double concentration.

Best you subscribe to petrolprices.com to find the cheapest fuel in your area because that 2p per litre difference covers the cheapest to second most expensive garage in the Brighton & Hove area.

Unless its really doing something I personally just can't see the benefit of spending up to £120 a year more on my fuel.

That's 7 bottles of Chateau Musar 2002 and I know which I'd rather have emoticon-0140-rofl.gif

That's 7 bottles of Chateau Musar 2002 and I know which I'd rather have[/img]

Hark at thee with your fancy wine! :rofl:

Careful, you'll get arrested by the safety police for being drunk in charge.... Of a keyboard! :dull:

The millers contains extra lubricants and also performs cleaning of the injectors.

Now how well the new version works I can't say, but the old one did make one heck of a difference for the older cars. Eg give it an clean air filter and an Italian Tune up, MOT emissions fail. Give it a double dose of millers and another run out, then back to the test station and pass by a long way.

I'd just like to add, that if you think millers is a waste of 2p per litre.. imagine how much of a waste of money all these branded "super" diesels are ;)

There are many threads on many forums discussing Millers. The majority of actual users rate it highly, alot of people post against using addatives but no one that I can find has ever posted saying using Millers has ever caused a problem to their engine.

So on balance of probabilities and much positive feedback give it a go and decide for yourself.

I'd just like to add, that if you think millers is a waste of 2p per litre.. imagine how much of a waste of money all these branded "super" diesels are emoticon-0105-wink.gif

.......which is why I never use them. No point, no real difference in performance. A tuned petrol engine benefits from higher RON but in a diesel its just not worth the huge premium. I might fill her up if I was off to a track day but the chances of me running my daily driver at Castle Coombe along with the other numpties in Scoobs and Novas playing at being Jenson Button is remote to say the least!emoticon-0136-giggle.gif

Don't get me wrong, later in the life of the vehicle I may chuck a dose in to give it a good clean but as for using it on a regular basis - nah, I'll leave it alone and enjoy my wine Wega! emoticon-0140-rofl.gif

Indeed, the people who think super derv is much better are mad, because diesel cars will run off anything EN590 or better, that plus you don't buy a derv as a racing car most of the time ;)

Anyway, I'd say it's good at cleaning/keeping things clean and it's good to take some if you're touring europe and could end up with a tank of slightly rough fuel etc.

Last tank up I accidently put the BP Diesel in the ultimate or whatever it is called. Cant say I noticed any difference apart from a bigger hit to my wallet £60 to fill up from just over 1/4 left in the tank.

One thing that will put me off buying another bottle of millers is the smell of it.

Even with cap fully on and stored in a draw tie plastric bag, the car still stinks of the stuff !

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