Anyone who doubts how quick the new VRs is going to be, should take the trouble to test drive a Boccanegra, I took one out recently, it an absolute licence loser, the DSG changes so fast in manual mode on the paddles. It would be impossible for a driver of a manual stick shift to keep up, the sound track from the engine as the throttle auto blips on the way down is unbeliveable.

Dont take my word for it, try it out out.

Dont forget these prices are for European countries and their cars cost a lot more than ours do. I just cant see it being more than £15k, if it is then thats daft for such an old model.

Anyone who doubts how quick the new VRs is going to be, should take the trouble to test drive a Boccanegra, I took one out recently, it an absolute licence loser, the DSG changes so fast in manual mode on the paddles. It would be impossible for a driver of a manual stick shift to keep up, the sound track from the engine as the throttle auto blips on the way down is unbeliveable.

Dont take my word for it, try it out out.

The Fabia is now beginning to hit the road too, seems to zip up to the red line pretty quickly

From what I've read in a couple of motoring magazines, they expect the price of the new fabia vrs to be about 16k. Which puts it in between the Ibiza FR TSI and Ibiza Cupra TSI.

Ian