What's the best rated petrol for the New Fabia MkII Vrs

" Is 95 RON ok????"

Edited 29 January, 201115 yr by Auric Goldfinger

This has received a lot of thread mentions on here. I think the general consensus is:

95 RON - Will run on 95 (regular) Unleaded, reduced power output with possibility of long term damage if used extensively.

98 RON and above - Recommended. Will produce full power output, will run properly too. Common 98RON fuels are Shell V-Power (which is actually 99), BP Ultimate (not very welcomed by most people) amongst others.

Definitely recommend running a VRS on V-Power.

What's the best rated petrol for the New Fabia MkII Vrs

" Is 95 RON ok????"

You will not get the full 178/180 hp if you run on 95 octane, you have to run on 98 octane on the Fabia VRS. It has a knock sensor which retards the ignition if you use petrol with an octane mix around 95. Exact power loss is variable but likely to be about 10hp.

Other TSI, inclusing the Octavia TSI VRS, run fine on 95 octane, (can even run on 91 octane with some power loss) at full power alledgedly. Tescos currently claiming big things for their 99 Octane Momentum fuel.

One should factor in costs of running a Fabia VRS Mk2 with the more expensive fuel.

Edited 29 January, 201115 yr by lol

you will make less than standard power on the octavia vRS with 95 ron fuel, as the 197Hp power figures are made using 98 ron fuel. From what i gather its the same on the Fabia. According to SCN the Fabia manual/petrol cap states 98ron fuel+.

Alot of guys on SCn have had issues with their TSI. Alot of which have been using 95ron fuel(some were with higher octance fuel though). I started a poll on here a few days ago about it with links to the polls on seatcupra.net as well.

Edited 29 January, 201115 yr by janner_Sy

you will make less than standard power on the octavia vRS with 95 ron fuel, as the 197Hp power figures are made using 98 ron fuel. From what i gather its the same on the Fabia. According to SCN the Fabia manual/petrol cap states 98ron fuel+.

Alot of guys on SCn have had issues with their TSI. Alot of which have been using 95ron fuel(some were with higher octance fuel though). I started a poll on here a few days ago about it with links to the polls on seatcupra.net as well.

The petrol cap does indeed specify 'Super Unleaded (98)'.

To me it doesn't make sense to run it on 95 for the sake of a few quid a tank.

The petrol cap does indeed specify 'Super Unleaded (98)'.

To me it doesn't make sense to run it on 95 for the sake of a few quid a tank.

to me it defies the object of paying out for a performance hatch to go and stick low grade fuel in. I used to apesh!t at my missus if she did it in the octavia. epsecially as it was mapped to run 99 ron+ so it ran like a bag of spanners on 95ron

Edited 29 January, 201115 yr by janner_Sy

to me it defies the ooblecty of paying out for a performance hatch to go and stick low grade fuel in. I used to apesh!t at my missus if she did it in the octavia. epsecially as it was mapped to run 99 ron+ so it ran like a bag of spanners on 95ron

That is women for you.

(Only joking, before any woman on here feels the need to kill me )

whats the verdict on tescos 99 ron fuel, it seems to get a good right up

Tesco 99 is very good

i never noticed a difference between tesco 99 ron and Vpower99. some people say they did, but i never

i never noticed a difference between tesco 99 ron and Vpower99. some people say they did, but i never

Same for me. Used both quite a bit and haven't noticed a difference.

It's funny as the latest Fabia brochure makes no mention of any of their petrol cars requiring 98 RON fuel only. I very much doubt you'll see a huge sum of difference in performance running a vRS on 95 RON fuel, so long as you dont use supermarket c**p; particularly the ultra low sulphur stuff. I'm sure all VAG petrols are designed to run on fuel as low as 91 RON in case of emergencies (or if youre abroad) which i've never seen in the UK.

Sure fuels like V power and BT Ultimate might give you ever so slighly crisper power delivery but you'd struggle to notice it. I ran a MK5 Golf GTI hire car I had for a while on both 98 and 95 RON fuel and noticed no discenable difference at all, can't see how the 1.4 would be any different really.

If you ever experience engine damage, I would think it would only be caused by using bad/poor quality fuel, not the grade unless you continually used 91 RON or lower.

Loads on this already, surprising search found nothing.

Appears super unleaded the way to go for the vRS

Am i right in thinking 98 RON or better will limit Fabia vRS owners to either Shell V-Power or Tesco Momentum ?.

BP Ultimate is i think 97 RON. BP also sell a 102 RON Ultimate in the southeast, but it is apparently no longer being produced (it was an eyewatering price too).

I've been sticking Sainsburys Super unleaded in (98 ron )

When I stick BP ultimate diesel in the Occty Vrs everyone says waste of money no difference to Morrisons cheap diesel

So why super fuel in one but not the other......................

Just to add, my dealer says just stick normal fuel in, no problem

perhaps he needs telling

Edited 29 January, 201115 yr by Auric Goldfinger

It says 98 ron fuel on the filler cap for a reason. But i see peoples issues. Im lucky i guess as there are loads of shell Vpower and tesco99 pumps near me. Must be a pain for guys with out pumps of 98+ron fuel near by

oddly enough, local garage to me sells leaded still and AFAIk leaded was rated at 105 RON.

Dont know about the vRS but Tesco Momentum 99 RON made my TSi run like a dog. Runs much happier on any grade Shell fuel and BP 95 RON but doesnt seem like BP Ultimate much either, that makes it struggle a bit. Not sure why.

Always used 3 tanks of each before I change just to make sure its not due to the ECU not coping with the fuel quality.

Sorry guys got to add my 2 pence worth again. I doubt any Skoda dealer in the country sticks anything but normal unleaded in all their petrol cars and thats what we test drive (and some buy as ex-demos having spent several thou miles running on the same stuff).

I do agree that the car will ultimately run better on 98+ over 95, and cant dispute the label on the fuel filler but the difference will be neglegable and not particularly noticable on even a 180hp car. I'm sure it really only makes big differences on very powerful/tuned cars. I really dont think running a Fabia vRS on decent quality 95RON will damage it or make it perform badly, but buying cheap fuel from a supermarket station at some point probably will. I avoid supermarket filling stations as much as possible as its usually these places that get petrol/diesel and even the grades mixed up when refilling.

Sorry guys got to add my 2 pence worth again. I doubt any Skoda dealer in the country sticks anything but normal unleaded in all their petrol cars and thats what we test drive (and some buy as ex-demos having spent several thou miles running on the same stuff).

I do agree that the car will ultimately run better on 98+ over 95, and cant dispute the label on the fuel filler but the difference will be neglegable and not particularly noticable on even a 180hp car. I'm sure it really only makes big differences on very powerful/tuned cars. I really dont think running a Fabia vRS on decent quality 95RON will damage it or make it perform badly, but buying cheap fuel from a supermarket station at some point probably will. I avoid supermarket filling stations as much as possible as its usually these places that get petrol/diesel and even the grades mixed up when refilling.

Possibly, let's be honest, not many people buy the VRS for fuel economy. Therefore, for the sake of 3-4 quid per tank, it doesn't make sense to run it on fuel it specifies for back up fuel. It just sounds illogical to buy a VRS and then worry about a few quid in petrol.

If 95 is the only stuff available, then as mentioned above, use decent reputable stuff.

Stu

Agree with you STUvRS - well said.

Possibly, let's be honest, not many people buy the VRS for fuel economy. Therefore, for the sake of 3-4 quid per tank, it doesn't make sense to run it on fuel it specifies for back up fuel. It just sounds illogical to buy a VRS and then worry about a few quid in petrol.

If 95 is the only stuff available, then as mentioned above, use decent reputable stuff.

Stu

Sorry Stu but we're probably going to have to agree to disagree there. Putting Super in the car religiously over a 3 year period is likely to cost £1.5/2K extra over normal 95 RON fuel (based roughly on two tanks per week at £3-4 extra per tank) which is actually quite alot of money and that cannot be denied.

When you're in the market for a £14k car, fuel consumption is definitely taken into consideration by most people; not so much when you have 40 - 50K to spend on a car and clearly have money to burn. If it did 20-odd MPG all day long could you honestly tell me you could justify buying one?

I'd never wish to disrespect any vRS owners (because i'm soon to become one and love the car) but ultimately it's not a sports car and I'm sure the use of 98 RON fuel is not essential in the same way as it would be in a bona-fide sports car that is actually tuned to run on that spec fuel and nothing else. As i've said already I ran a MK5 GTi Golf on both sorts of fuel (98 recommended, 95 OK - same sort of recommendation as on the vRS) and in no way was able to determine a change in performance and I really dont see how the 1.4 TSi is going to be any different. I absolutely hammered the car whilst I had it too, so if there was any difference it would have been noticed. The car was a hire vehicle and had done approx 14K very hard miles, no doubt mostly on normal unleaded and it ran like a sewing machine.

When I get my car I will try it on both to see if there is any noticable difference, if there is I will eat my hat and will admit defeat. If there isnt it will probably just get run on branded 95 RON, we'll save ourselves a few grand (and spend the money on better things!) and if it does go wrong that's what the warranty is for.

Sorry Stu but we're probably going to have to agree to disagree there. Putting Super in the car religiously over a 3 year period is likely to cost £1.5/2K extra over normal 95 RON fuel (based roughly on two tanks per week at £3-4 extra per tank) which is actually quite alot of money and that cannot be denied.

When you're in the market for a £14k car, fuel consumption is definitely taken into consideration by most people; not so much when you have 40 - 50K to spend on a car and clearly have money to burn. If it did 20-odd MPG all day long could you honestly tell me you could justify buying one?

I'd never wish to disrespect any vRS owners (because i'm soon to become one and love the car) but ultimately it's not a sports car and I'm sure the use of 98 RON fuel is not essential in the same way as it would be in a bona-fide sports car that is actually tuned to run on that spec fuel and nothing else. As i've said already I ran a MK5 GTi Golf on both sorts of fuel (98 recommended, 95 OK - same sort of recommendation as on the vRS) and in no way was able to determine a change in performance and I really dont see how the 1.4 TSi is going to be any different. I absolutely hammered the car whilst I had it too, so if there was any difference it would have been noticed. The car was a hire vehicle and had done approx 14K very hard miles, no doubt mostly on normal unleaded and it ran like a sewing machine.

When I get my car I will try it on both to see if there is any noticable difference, if there is I will eat my hat and will admit defeat. If there isnt it will probably just get run on branded 95 RON, we'll save ourselves a few grand (and spend the money on better things!) and if it does go wrong that's what the warranty is for.

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I think I would be tempted to use 98 Octane, or above, if I had a Fabia 2 VRS as the idea that I would be 5 or 10 hp down using 95 would irk me also using 95 Octane in a car set up for 98 octane as you probably get get one or 2 mpg less on 95 Octane. This was definately the case when we use to run Mark 1 Octavia VRSs and Leon Cupras so 98 Octane, if only 3 or 4 % more per litre than 95 Octane was worthy using some of time if not all of the time.

The Tescos 99 Octane is about 4% more than 95 Octane but can give 5 to 10% more power and range. The range bit is also very important as better range can mean reaching a petrol station with cheaper fuel rather than having to fill up with more expensive fuel because you cannot get there. As a last point some of us do not pay for the fuel we use directly ie it is a Benefit in Kind and therefore we only pay 20% or 40% of the price at the pumps so again 98/99 Octane is not so much more expensive than 95 Octane.

Just some facts you might not be aware of. I would not have bought a Fabia 2 VRS before the VAT deal came on them as last year you could be a Octavia VRS for just a few hundred quid more than is much more roomy, much greater range etc. Now the VAT deal is on the Fabia 2 VRS it is much more tempting but will probably go for a Monte Carlo Fabia for a town car when they come out in the next few weeks which will run on 95 Octane as I will have to pay for the gas in that one, probably 1.2 TSI DSG rather than wiesel.

Edited 30 January, 201115 yr by lol

I've been running it on V-Power but it's not always possible where I live. When I've run it on morrisons/asda I've notice a drop in power even my girlfriend as a passenger noticed the difference. Will see how it runs next time on sainsbury's super unleaded as I know a few people who haver used this and say it's pretty good stuff.

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I think I would be tempted to use 98 Octane, or above, if I had a Fabia 2 VRS as the idea that I would be 5 or 10 hp down using 95 would irk me also using 95 Octane in a car set up for 98 octane as you probably get get one or 2 mpg less on 95 Octane. This was definately the case when we use to run Mark 1 Octavia VRSs and Leon Cupras so 98 Octane, if only 3 or 4 % more per litre than 95 Octane was worthy using some of time if not all of the time.

The Tescos 99 Octane is about 4% more than 95 Octane but can give 5 to 10% more power and range. The range bit is also very important as better range can mean reaching a petrol station with cheaper fuel rather than having to fill up with more expensive fuel because you cannot get there. As a last point some of us do not pay for the fuel we use directly ie it is a Benefit in Kind and therefore we only pay 20% or 40% of the price at the pumps so again 98/99 Octane is not so much more expensive than 95 Octane.

Just some facts you might not be aware of. I would not have bought a Fabia 2 VRS before the VAT deal came on them as last year you could be a Octavia VRS for just a few hundred quid more than is much more roomy, much greater range etc. Now the VAT deal is on the Fabia 2 VRS it is much more tempting but will probably go for a Monte Carlo Fabia for a town car when they come out in the next few weeks which will run on 95 Octane as I will have to pay for the gas in that one, probably 1.2 TSI DSG rather than wiesel.

Hi LOL. I'm going to test the water when the car arrives and see how it goes. It will probably end up getting a bit of a mix anyway as I know the missus probably wont bother putting super in it and she'll be driving it most of the time. Point i've been trying to make is that I dont think running one on decent quality 95 octane fuel will damage it at all, its cheap/poor quality & ultra low sulpher fuels that would knacker such an engine and I think thats largely the cause of all these 1.4TSi engine issues. Some of it is probably bad luck too. Fuels bloody expensive now and resent spending out on standard fuel as it is. If we can save a fair chunk of money over 3 years by running 95 RON without any real noticable performance drop or causing damage I know what we'll be doing.

I have a fuel card for my company car but i'm not allowed to buy premium grade fuels, 95 RON or standard diesel only. Used to be able to but since the credit crunch they've come down on it hard. Can still buy Oil on it though, proves rather handy!

Am completely with you on the VAT deal, Before the Fabia turned up was really interested in a 2.0 TSi vRS DSG wagon but it was really too big for us and more than we wanted to spend on a second car, particularly when adding DSG and Curtain Airbags (think its appaling the Octy vRS doesnt come with these whilst the Fabia does) which would have been a must for me. Ultimately the Octy is no quicker either.

Monte carlo will be nice, assume a 105ps TSi? I drove an 85hp at the same time as the vRS and was very impressed. Much more punchy than the wifes current 1.4 80ps Polo and no flatspot. Can only imagine the 105 is better still.

Edited 30 January, 201115 yr by pipsyp

Sorry Stu but we're probably going to have to agree to disagree there. Putting Super in the car religiously over a 3 year period is likely to cost £1.5/2K extra over normal 95 RON fuel (based roughly on two tanks per week at £3-4 extra per tank) which is actually quite alot of money and that cannot be denied.

2 tanks per week You might drive that distance, but id bet the average person doesnt. i drive about 10k a year.

Ok then lets assume the following:

• 350miles per tank minimum ( 45 litre tank=11.88 gallons). therefore to achieve 350 miles it would require just under 29mpg.
  

• Thats 8 tanks per week = 2800miles a month that pretty horific amount of mileage and thats basing it on the car only managing 29mpg
  

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• If you average 36.7mpg (the manufacturer specified urban Mpg) that would equate to 433miles to a tank or nearly 3500 miles a month.

• they say the average mileage no a days is 15k a year=1250 miles a month.

Slightly over kill id say. So all of a sudden the extra cost over that 3 year period is pretty much halved.