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Lifetime mileage limit of the 2.0 TDI PD Engine

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Hi all,

I'm considering keeping my Scout TDI, because it's still looking good at nearly 4 years & 90K miles old & that I can't find anything out there worth shelling out 10K + Part 'Ex for to replace it with!

I'm thinking of keeping it for another 3 years which will probably take it to around 160k miles.

Does anyone know what the maximum average is for the PD engine? It has & will continue to be well serviced & looked after. Should I expect at least the turbo to give up before the engine does?

Thanks, W

How long is a piece of string im afraid? Mine is on 90k and (touch wood) so far so good, and I do keep hearing people say they are strong engines so fingers crossed.

Well serviced & well looked after and in theory they'll keep ticking over! :)

I went in a Superb taxi in Bristol and that had 230k on it, driver said it had been brilliant

Go for a record, the world's your oyster :)

If it's regularly serviced and maintained, there's absolutely no reason that it won't keep on running, and running, and running.......

How long is a piece of string im afraid? Mine is on 90k and (touch wood) so far so good, and I do keep hearing people say they are strong engines so fingers crossed.

Well serviced & well looked after and in theory they'll keep ticking over! :)

I went in a Superb taxi in Bristol and that had 230k on it, driver said it had been brilliant

Go for a record, the world's your oyster :)

If it's regularly serviced and maintained, there's absolutely no reason that it won't keep on running, and running, and running.......

Thanks all, hmmm now I'm thinking about the amount I will make with business mileage expenses for the next 5 years now that the car is paid off B)

Thanks all, hmmm now I'm thinking about the amount I will make with business mileage expenses for the next 5 years now that the car is paid off B)

Just to add a bit of balance to the thread, take a look through the forum for failed turbos on the 140TDI engine. The turbos are seemingly a weak point.

Edited by r32

Turbo failure is a risk, certainly.

Another option is to PX it for a newer Scout I suppose :)

Just to add a bit of balance to the thread, take a look through the forum for failed turbos on the 140TDI engine. The turbos are seemingly a weak point.

Yeah thanks r32 for pouring water on my fire :rofl:

I know what you mean & it has been a concern of mine for a while, mine whistles when cold & under pressure (mainly around 3k rpm) but as I understand is quite normal for the PD turbo's - it's got slightly louder since 50k+ miles but not to the point that worries me yet, especially after hearing some video clips on YT.

The engine & gearbox on the other hand though seems as tight as a nut & that's what makes me think it's got plenty of life in it still.

Turbo failure is a risk, certainly.

Another option is to PX it for a newer Scout I suppose :)

I have been looking but they are really holding their prices, it doesn't make economical sense to trade mine in (07, 90k miles) with a 58 plate 20k model for nearly £18K! not to mention there's hardly any on the 2nd hand market.

Hmmm, yes - you may have a point there! I certainly don't see many around.

And for that swap the money doesn't really stack up does it?!

My PD 140 went porous just after I changed the turbo (pre-failure!) at 235,000 kilometres. Could be worse - the engine itself is still perfectly healthy and I'm doing a rebuild.

we've had a few 2.0pd units at work that have done about 180k when they've gone abck and had no major problems, although one had a turbo issue. we normally keep them till around 120k to be on the safe side, although i would happiliy keep mine longer as ive been told we are having the 1.6tdi cr next booooo.

Look at an extended warranty if you need peace of mind. But a few years warranty costs would probably cover a new turbo or engine problems!

Work out what an extended warranty will cost & put that by every year, it will hopefully be enough as long as you dont dip into it for servicing etc & all the things that warranties dont cover.

With many taxi fleets prefering Octys I think it prooves they are cheap over very high mileage, you are going to get a few more problems but keeping it serviced & fixing things as they go will keep the car together. If you have been using main dealers it might now be time to build up a good relationship with an independant VAG specialist, they are cheaper but also tend to fix older cars so have a better idea oof where to get pattern parts to help ease costs.

Our last Octy did 160,000 & its our intention to do the same with the Scout

I cannot figure these turbo woes, perhaps I just been plain fortunate.

Over 230,000 on the origional turbo, when worked hard it was allowed to "simmer"before switching off, and I had 120/125 deg Centi oil temp when on hols in Spain,this from sustained hard heavy loaded & towing motorway driving when less than a year old , oil changed at 5k when straight mineral, every 10k when I switched to semi-synth.

PS

During the period of the 120/125 oil temps, I was running her on tractor oil, being if i recall Case No1.

If you are happy with it keep it.

If you P/X against somthing newer you lose a bucket load in depreciation.

Ive never had a problem owning high mileage cars.

I do 50k a year in my company car but I also have a 21 year old Discovery V8 with 178k on the clock.

Ok they may need money spending on them now and again but no where near what you would spend on upgrading.

You say 10k plus yours. well that 10k would probably keep your running for another 10 years plus.

People are scaring you with Turbo problems well how much would it be to replace?

Nowhere near 10k.

Ok they may need money spending on them now and again but no where near what you would spend on upgrading.

You say 10k plus yours. well that 10k would probably keep your running for another 10 years plus.

People are scaring you with Turbo problems well how much would it be to replace?

Nowhere near 10k.

A relative of mine has just part-exed his mint 4 year old Golf TDi for a new Golf simply because the cambelt needed replacing.

A friend is about to trade in a similarly tidy 4 year old Toyota Corolla because it needs a new battery and the plastic undertray is slightly cracked........is there anyone outside of this forum left with less money than sense nowadays? :giggle:

Cheers all,

Some perfectly reasonable advice there, I guess many people still hold the age-old belief of when a car passes the 100k mile mark get rid quick! I'm confident all will be fine as I mentioned earlier the engine still feels the same as it was 50K miles ago & the same applies for the gearbox.

I think there maybe more pressing matters further down the line other than the turbo & that maybe to do with the Haldex system but I'll deal with that when/if it happens.

The scout's a keeper - that's the final decision.

:yes:

Hi all,

I'm considering keeping my Scout TDI, because it's still looking good at nearly 4 years & 90K miles old & that I can't find anything out there worth shelling out 10K + Part 'Ex for to replace it with!

I'm thinking of keeping it for another 3 years which will probably take it to around 160k miles.

Does anyone know what the maximum average is for the PD engine? It has & will continue to be well serviced & looked after. Should I expect at least the turbo to give up before the engine does?

Thanks, W

The 1.9 PD105 I had in the octy 2, was at 160k when I sold it. Apart from the turbo giving up at 125k and the EGR Valve leaking (as most of them do after time)

The engine never skipped a beat.

Lots of good advice here, take the business mileage and stick it in the piggy bank

Like a lot of places I'm sure, the Octavia is a popular choice for taxi drivers here so whenever I get a lift in one I ask them how they've got on with the car as it's normal for a forum like this to highlight faults. There's a few 06/07ish cars approaching 150,000, one with a new clutch and one with a new suspension bush/mounting (can't remember exactly) which didn't seem too bad although the ones approaching 200,000 did feel a bit 'worn'

John

Ive seen Octavia Taxis with well ove 300k on them.

Had this as my desktop wallpaper for a while :rofl:SPAD_Octavia.jpg

From Sniffpetrol.com

2.0tdi PD140 (remapped from new) DSG I have 373,000kms on it. It got a turbo and DMF under warranty at 130,000kms and has since had another turbo at my expense. I have to replace front drop links fairly regularly but these can be had cheap of the internet. I'm happy with the amount of money that has been spent considering the massive mileage and its still driving sweet. It recently aced its MOT.

I know mine is a BKD and the scout has a different engine but the car itself is well able for stellar mileage if looked after and serviced to schedule.

Turbo failure is often caused by regularly switching the engine off as soon as you park up. That is a huge no no. Let the engine tick over for a while, to let the turbo cool whilst it is still getting a supply of oil for the bearings. Just look at all the high performance cars now fitted with turbo timers that allow the engine to run for a few minutes even with the keys out, and car locked.

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