I only use my car on my days off, I cycle 12000 miles a year, so only do 1200 miles in the car, for my journey to work( rush hour) my bike is quicker than the car , diesel or petrol! so consequently when I do drive on the moor roads by me, which are empty, and twisty I really do love my mapped VRS. As I said earlier It is a no brainer if you cover a great distance, and it is a company car etc to get a diesel, but if I did like you I would get an elegance or l+k not a vrs diesel

You are the man, STS + stage 1 is imminent!!!

I should be on commission!

I only use my car on my days off, I cycle 12000 miles a year,

That's by far the best way to travel I cycle to work as much as I can but its tough when working 12hour shifts. Sometimes it makes the weekend drives feel that bit more special and you fall in love with the car all over again

I've owned both types and like both, but for different reasons. OK my current isn't a vRS diesel, but a pretty substantially modified PD140

There's simply no point in the debate. A thread like this comes up every now and again and honestly, it goes nowhere. Not the fault of the OP, as it's an understandable question.

Drive both, as mentioned. Then do your sums on both, and go for the one that fits your circumstances the best. End of story

when people on here keep on saying the petrol is a far better car than the diesel, why do they always keep on refering to a tuned petrol. how can you make a call like that, pitching a std diesel against a tuned petrol. yes the petrol is faster to 60 and higher top end, but in real life how many people race to 60 from a standing start and take there car to full speed, most races are done on the open road at speed.

Because there is so much more scope with tuning a petrol compared to a diesel , standard is faster, remapped even more so, and remapping your diesel negates why you got it in the first place, fuel consumption :no:

Because there is so much more scope with tuning a petrol compared to a diesel , standard is faster, remapped even more so, and remapping your diesel negates why you got it in the first place, fuel consumption :no:

Not entirely accurate buddy, vRS Carl had a stage one Shark on his PD140, and on comparitive runs he got 47mpg before and 55mpg after the map........incidently it is the same map on the same engine that I will have imminently.

You are clearly with the wrong company mate!! I had the vRS insured with Privilege, once modded I moved to Adrian Flux as Privilege will not entertain any modifications. Quote from AF was cheaper with all mods declared.......

Trust me I looked. Guess cause I'm 25 with a new modified car. Anyway back to the thread

There's simply no point in the debate. A thread like this comes up every now and again and honestly, it goes nowhere. Not the fault of the OP, as it's an understandable question.

Drive both, as mentioned. Then do your sums on both, and go for the one that fits your circumstances the best. End of story

Couldn't have put it better myself

Then do your sums on both, and go for the one that fits your circumstances the best. End of story

I didn't do any sums, couldn't care less if I get 30mpg or 40mpg or value (diesel pay more up front Inc finance costs get it back later) after last 5 cars being diesel Inc one that put out 225bhp I drove a petrol Vrs and bought it.

I can honestly say as a diesel head for years putting up the same arguments ...........I didn't half miss petrol !

Why do people worry? It is patently obvious to all that the diesel is slower but has better economy and decent grunt. Also patently obvious that Skodas are cheaper than VW or Audi equivalents. That's why people buy them. a lot of this forums users have had faster and more prestigious cars but get a kick out of having a cheaper well-made car which supplies equal or even more performance than the more expensive brands. The argument of diesel vs petrol whoever is driving is rubbish. It is a decent hot hatch which doubles up as a good load carrier for the family. The worst thing a newcomer to this forum can do is ask for an opinion on this subject because there are two camps. As stated above this subject has been done to death. Now of course if I had DSG a remap and twin turbos I might be able to murder that Smart car next door.....

Modern day diesels are far to complicated, you really need to do over 20k a year to get the benefit, runs out of puff at 4-5k rpm, its noisey (no matter how modern it is they are still noisey) but you cant get away from the fact they are best for high mileage people.

Personally Petrol is better for us plus i like to take it a drive every few weekends for some fun the diesel 5 series we had just wasn't fun, everyone has there personal opinions and reasons for each vehicle its what really suits you and your circumstances best.

Why do people worry about people worrying? If you aren't interested in the thread don't read or comment on it. I say let people have their thoughts and debate that's whats the forum is for.

I have the diesel as I do need the slightly better mpg as im unsure about how far I will have to commute in the future when I change jobs coming up! and cheaper to tax and insure etc etc and as far as a normal sporty family diesel car goes theres nothing half as good out there. That said I would love to think I could afford to own and run a petrol one (remapped) as the feel and sound would be so much crisper.... but the big downside I also had to contend with was the depreciation of the petrol and again job depending I may need to sell mine in next 2 years I will loose less on a diesel and sell easier!

I might get a dream job local and have enough stability to try a petrol some day but at moment im more than happy with the diesel.

To OP if you have the diesel already and your happy enough save the money you might spend changing and WILL spend running a few quid here and there for petrol tax and insurance will add up with a new little one nappies are a rip off as im sure you know!

Why do people worry about people worrying? If you aren't interested in the thread don't read or comment on it. I say let people have their thoughts and debate that's whats the forum is for.

I think what I should have said is that this topic is now officially dull.

Cheers guys, some comments were really helpful.

I'll have a decent chance to get to know her inside out soon as I'm taking her to spa for the F1 next wkend When I get back I'll book myself a test drive in the petrol and see how it compares.

I can see from the replies that both camps of drivers, petrol AND diesel, are passionate about their chosen version, so to me that says both of them tick all the right boxes for the majority of people, and which version you choose is just down to personal preference, I'll get the test drive booked and find out which applies to me!

Thanks again

I have the diesel as I do need the slightly better mpg as im unsure about how far I will have to commute in the future when I change jobs coming up! and cheaper to tax and insure etc etc and as far as a normal sporty family diesel car goes theres nothing half as good out there. That said I would love to think I could afford to own and run a petrol one (remapped) as the feel and sound would be so much crisper.... but the big downside I also had to contend with was the depreciation of the petrol and again job depending I may need to sell mine in next 2 years I will loose less on a diesel and sell easier!

I might get a dream job local and have enough stability to try a petrol some day but at moment im more than happy with the diesel.

To OP if you have the diesel already and your happy enough save the money you might spend changing and WILL spend running a few quid here and there for petrol tax and insurance will add up with a new little one nappies are a rip off as im sure you know!

Good Advice! Cheers

I think what I should have said is that this topic is now officially dull.

Stop reading and commenting on it then, go and do something not dull like drive a petrol vrs!

I know the OP wants answers but this is the same old thread that appears on every page of these forums with all the same old replies. People do not use the search (how many oil topics are there?!), and no one seems to mind.

All these things cog up and spam the forums making it a worse place for regular readers. Sorry but these things need saying and this forum needs moderating like many other car forums. (no offence OP).

I know the OP wants answers but this is the same old thread that appears on every page of these forums with all the same old replies. People do not use the search (how many oil topics are there?!), and no one seems to mind.

All these things cog up and spam the forums making it a worse place for regular readers. Sorry but these things need saying and this forum needs moderating like many other car forums. (no offence OP).

It may be "the same old thread" but with new members coming along all the time it gets an injection of new ideas. The cars change, fuel prices change, taxation changes and all contribute to a gradual evolution of the thread contents.

Who wants a forum with a dozen threads with thousands of posts in each? How is a 4 year old thread on the relative merits of a VRS TDi PD vs a VRS TFSi going to help anyone in 2011? Far better to let "new" ones spring up, run their course and quietly fade into obscurity.

The light touch moderation of this forum is just right.

Agreed, people need to stop getting worked up over this thread. Don't like it don't read it and get over it, worry about something more important.

Makes for cluttered reading that's all. I come to this forum as and when to see if there are any interesting topics to read and it's often the same old stuff. Makes for a dull forum for the regulars, something many other forums strive to get away from. I guess this is an owners forum, not an enthusiasts forum. Having spent years on some other big name forums you notice the difference. If everyone else is happy with this though that's fine, I'm not trying to get anyones back up.

remapping your diesel negates why you got it in the first place, fuel consumption :no:

Sorry Alan, but that's just not true. Obviously when pressing on you use more fuel, same as a petrol. But on a constant run, say at a motorway cruise, a remapped diesel will deliver better economy, than if you were on the standard map.

Just gonna put my bit in......

I had a Mk1 vRS, on a 52 plate from brand new, kept it for 8 years, no problems, covered 100,000 miles and still ran like new when I decided to get shot. The only reason I decided to get a new one was because of the vat reduction deal that was around.

I cover around 12'000 miles a year, so decided to stick with the petrol because I didn't think Diesel was justified with the mileage I cover, had heard a lot about DPF troubles and because my neighbour has an Audi Diesel that i hear start up every morning that sounds like a tractor.

I did think about a L&K 1.8t instead, but due to the amount of time I usually keep my cars, there was a lot of gadgets that could go wrong, so decided on another vRS as the styling is great, although I did go for the estate as I think they keep their looks longer, hatchbacks seem to "age" quite quickly.

I also opted to stay with a manual gearbox, again due to possible future costs if things go wrong.

What I am trying to say is weigh up all those options that are available, and which ones are important to you.

If you are keeping your car for as long as I will, depreciation wont be too much of a factor either.

Everyone has different needs, so just think about what yours are!

Steve

Everyone has different needs, so just think about what yours are!

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