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As some know I recently ordered a vRS diesel with DSG.

Well today the good people at DM Keith lent me one for the day , I've got to say.... Excellent

Miles more responsive than my current 59 Manuel vRS.

I wish I had thought about it on current car.

Also it was the same Colour ( white ) as one ive ordered so it was like stepping into the future.... Gutted to hand back to be honest!

DSG really is not as good as people say.... It's better!

Edited by taff170

On my third as I was an earlier adopter with the 1.9D when it came out 6 years ago or so.

Had another with the 140 PD in a SEAT and now the 7 speed in my 1.8 TSI.

Use mine in tiptronic quite a lot using both the stick and the paddles.

Looking at the road and forcing it to stay in a higher gear (or putting it in to neutral down long hills for reasons many disagree with but hey ho).

Doing about 1K a week it is the only sane choice and I seem to get the better quoted fuel consumption than the 6 speed manually.

Just campaigning for the 7 speed wet DSG (DQ500) to be released to Skoda from the VAG parts bin which will be awesome for acceleration and fuel consumption!

Miles more responsive than my current 59 Manuel vRS.

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DSG really is not as good as people say.... It's better!

You realise that once you turn, you'll never go back :no:

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I have mixed feelings on my 2011 vRS dsg. I upgraded from a manual vRS but I have issue with the initial pick up at a junction where in the manual you'd nip into traffic, I find due to what I would call as slight pick up delay you then apply to much gas to a mixture of wheel spin and traction control stepping in on lock from right or left Junction turns. This then makes you want to back off to give the box a chance to change up or continue to flaw the throttle to make up for the lost time caused by the sluggish set off. I am a driver of many years but I am finding this in today's camera culture not an ideal control situation.

I also have had issue with using paddles to shift down for a roundabout. When I then find the box will not change up but stays in second you in turn have the wheel on lock so the paddles are miss placed so you have to knock it into manual to force a gear change from second at 4.5k rpm even though you lifted at over 3500 rpm.

This occurs in D2 MODE Not in sport MODE it feels as though the car has dropped into neutral and now is over revving as a result of this.

I find at lights that you must keep you foot on the brake else the transmission will push against the hand brake loading up till it slips like using handbrake for hill starts.

I find this not ideal as if you slip it into neutral you will need to apply foot break to select drive and when starting on hills with no control over the throttle, left foot breaking not being my thing.

Maybe its my technique at fault but many other auto's I have driven didn't show these problems.

Any thoughts out there on this.

I still do not think the manual is a worthwhile choice in today's stop start town driving conditions.

Also the manual averaged 38-42 around town with the auto showing 36-40 and up to 50 on a run only a slight fuel price to pay.

I was driving my father in laws old merc auto today and, althought, it never a DSG, it made me think that I do miss the 1.9 DSG I had a couple of cars back and really think I will go back that route next time I change, not for a couple of year 'tho :S

Traded in my 1.9 octy dsg for a one series B@st@rd Motor in Winter - worse move I ever made.

My Yeti is my first ever DSG and I'm a total convert too. As Brimma says above you'll never go back. The Golf V5 (in my sig) has a Tiptronic 5 speed (the car is a 2003 but of course the design of that gearbox is much older as this V5 was one of the very last sold before the Golf V came out). Night and day between the Yeti and the Golf. Especially when the gearboxes are cold. The Golf lurches and even when hot and you are pressing on 70 on the motorway the time between changes feels like an age. You physically feel the car slow down as it deselects one gear to go up! Wheras in the Yeti it just goes wham, wham, wham from gear to gear. Love it.

I hardly ever use the Tiptronic function and don't see myself upgrading to a vRS MFSW with paddles either. The automatic part is so good and relaxing that I never feel the need to row myself. Apart from at roundabouts perhaps. Nudge it left and two down... approach, see a gap and wham you are on it, around and back to D. Slowing down for a roundabout does fox the DSG sometimes as it knows you are slowing down, pre-selects 2nd when you are in 3rd and then you see a gap and need the juice and it then takes and age to deselect 2nd and select 4th again... Hence manual the best as you know what you want better than HAL.

Something I also hate in the Golf is that it has a permanent PRND432 display on the dash and all that is lit when you are driving is D. You never know which gear you are in to use the Tiptronic to manually tip down two or whatever... I know you can "feel" it but I like to see what gear I'm in. Furthermore it shows you D2, S2 or 2 in the Yeti. So visually you know if you are in Drive, Sport or Tiptronic.

Anyone ever seen S6 indicated? :giggle: I have. Peculiar thing to see as in S you are always one gear lower than you would be in D and thus you should NEVER see S6 (assuming you have a 6 speed DSG of course). You only see S6 when you are in S and then set the cruise control! Weird.

I noticed Honest John no longer recommends The DSG gearbox ,because of the hesitation in pulling away from roundabouts as an example.

He preferred a fiesta with a 4 speed slushbox.:wonder:

DSG everytime for me.

On my third as I was an earlier adopter with the 1.9D when it came out 6 years ago or so.

Had another with the 140 PD in a SEAT and now the 7 speed in my 1.8 TSI.

Use mine in tiptronic quite a lot using both the stick and the paddles.

Looking at the road and forcing it to stay in a higher gear (or putting it in to neutral down long hills for reasons many disagree with but hey ho).

Doing about 1K a week it is the only sane choice and I seem to get the better quoted fuel consumption than the 6 speed manually.

Just campaigning for the 7 speed wet DSG (DQ500) to be released to Skoda from the VAG parts bin which will be awesome for acceleration and fuel consumption!

Go on, I'll bite. Why put it in neutral downhill?

Yeah, would be interested to hear - there are lots of reasons why you shouldn't.

My favourite however is that when you leave the car in neutral, you use fuel ticking it over.

When in D, the momentum keeps the engine going, but the ECU cuts the fuel supply (I think) therefore, free running.

We have the 6 DSG in our 2011 Superb Wagon 2.0 TDI. Love it. Compared to the old 4 speed v6 camry there is world of difference. The camry is smoother down low and off idle, but when it comes to overtaking, with the DSG you just accelerate and it goes. The camry always has the delay. I'd say the DSG responds faster than a manual in basic last minute overtaking maneuvers.

I just hope it's reliable.

tom

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