I am interested in having a Skoda Superb for my next car, but would like to have the honest opinions of people who have either owned or tested both.

I'm not interested in a Petrol vs Diesel debate, we all know the pros and cons of each, and how one is cheaper if you are doing galactic miles etc etc.

What I am after is an honest opinion over what engine is the best one to have in a Superb.

Having owned a 2.0CR vRS previously, I like how it is possible to have a car capable of 50MPG and performing "like" a petrol, while not sounding like a PD tractor

However, I've also owned a 1.4TSI Fabia vRS, but got rid because I didn't want the finance.

I like both engines, but would like some other opinions. The 1.8TSI seems the more enthusiast option. Would you agree?

Just to clarify, I'm thinking about the 2.0CR vs 1.8TSI. Is the 2.0TSI quicker? I like power

I am interested in having a Skoda Superb for my next car, but would like to have the honest opinions of people who have either owned or tested both.

I'm not interested in a Petrol vs Diesel debate, we all know the pros and cons of each, and how one is cheaper if you are doing galactic miles etc etc.

What I am after is an honest opinion over what engine is the best one to have in a Superb.

Having owned a 2.0CR vRS previously, I like how it is possible to have a car capable of 50MPG and performing "like" a petrol, while not sounding like a PD tractor

However, I've also owned a 1.4TSI Fabia vRS, but got rid because I didn't want the finance.

I like both engines, but would like some other opinions. The 1.8TSI seems the more enthusiast option. Would you agree?

Just to clarify, I'm thinking about the 2.0CR vs 1.8TSI. Is the 2.0TSI quicker? I like power

The 2 litre TSI is much quicker but much thirstier, espeicially as it only has the old 6 speed DSG which lowers the fuel consumption over the manual.

The 1.8 TSI is quicker than the 2 litre CR diesel according to Skoda and Motoring press and is very relaxed with the very tall 7th gear but the diesel is still about 20% better on fuel for the DSGs so it depends on the mileage you do and how much you value the zing of acceleration.

When I bought my Octy 1.8 TSI the 2 litre VRS CR DSG was about £5K more, ie the L&K has lots more extras I had to have to add to the diesel VRS plus it is slower accelerating, plus longer waiting. The other factor was/is that I get a fuel card so fuel is 50p a litre for me ie I only pay the BIK tax.

I will probably go for a 1.8 TSI Superb in a few months time but wish they would add start stop, regen brakes etc. Also wish they had 100K Warranty!

Edited 25 October, 201114 yr by lol

I am interested in having a Skoda Superb for my next car, but would like to have the honest opinions of people who have either owned or tested both.

I'm not interested in a Petrol vs Diesel debate, we all know the pros and cons of each, and how one is cheaper if you are doing galactic miles etc etc.

What I am after is an honest opinion over what engine is the best one to have in a Superb.

Having owned a 2.0CR vRS previously, I like how it is possible to have a car capable of 50MPG and performing "like" a petrol, while not sounding like a PD tractor

However, I've also owned a 1.4TSI Fabia vRS, but got rid because I didn't want the finance.

I like both engines, but would like some other opinions. The 1.8TSI seems the more enthusiast option. Would you agree?

Just to clarify, I'm thinking about the 2.0CR vs 1.8TSI. Is the 2.0TSI quicker? I like power

Something else to consider is the incredible deals that Skoda are currently doing on petrol engines and the lead times for delivery of diesels.

I'm not in a position to buy one just yet, but when I do I'll probably be only looking at 1-2 year old ones with low miles on.

My car is an 06 plate but only has 40K on the clock, so I did well there

Thanks for the tips though, I'm thinking about the 1.8TSI for the 7 speed DSG and not much difference in speed...

You'll know all about the drive of the CR vRS 170 - a different beast in the Superb, good but nothing like the vRS. I'd have the 170 CR in the Superb for economy and torque, then have a stage 1 remap to give that desired little extra yet retain economy.

You'll know all about the drive of the CR vRS 170 - a different beast in the Superb, good but nothing like the vRS. I'd have the 170 CR in the Superb for economy and torque, then have a stage 1 remap to give that desired little extra yet retain economy.

x2 for that especially if you can get the 4wd 170 in the UK.

Yes I am leaning towards the 2.0CR 170. Maybe 4x4 as well for the winter months.

We'll see when I get round to getting it.

Lemme help you hear, buy neither ?

Diesel = Turbo,DPF,Injectors, all potentially very expensive replacements, Turbo's right now are not right, the ones VAG fits across the ranges are failing very quickly.

Petrol = TSi = Turbo,Supercharged Injection, so you have a Turbo and a Supercharger to worry about and added fuel cost's.

Stands by for the fallout.

Petrol = TSi = Turbo,Supercharged Injection, so you have a Turbo and a Supercharger to worry about and added fuel cost's.

My goodness I must take my Octavia VRS TSI back under warranty. Skoda forgot to fit the supercharger!

Seriously though the only "twin charged" Skoda TSI is the Fabia VRS. TSI does not stand for Turbo,Supercharged Injection.

Edited 27 October, 201114 yr by juan27

Petrol = TSi = Turbo,Supercharged Injection, so you have a Turbo and a Supercharger to worry about and added fuel cost's.

Oh my God, I have a supercharger for the same price

:clap:

Thanks Skoda, I have both a compressor and a turbo

Ok, assuming I got it wrong, what does it mean? on a Golf 1.4 it's got turbo, supercharger and injected, I assume the Superb 1.4 will be the same?

Prior to TSi, VAG petrols used to be FSi's.

The only FSi is the V6. No real need for a turbo or supercharger really :no:

Well looking at this

http://answers.yahoo...06191431AAYBfg3

and

http://www.independe...tsi-410057.html

and

TSI is a Twin-charged version of Volkwagen’s FSI direct injection engine. TSI stands for “turbocharged stratified injectionâ€. This little 1.4 liter monster makes about 168hp and 240Nm of torque at 1750-4000rpm. This big amount of low-end torque is achievable through a supercharger that works up to 2000rpm before the turbocharger kicked in.

from

http://paultan.org/2...tsi-and-20-tdi/

Says I got it right first time.

Well, actually I knew I was right cos I had one the other week and you could see the blower at the front of the engine.

Edited 27 October, 201114 yr by Supurbia

Simple answer: Petrol

Complex answer: Depends on how many miles you does/can you put up with the horrible rattle from under the bonnet.

With regards to TSI/FSI/TFSI/ABC/GTI/WTF/GTFO...

There are many, many flavours... the FSI (Fuel Stratified Injection aka direct cylinder injection) is largely stripped out, as it was flakey, and only really ran on good fuel, so they couldn't use it globally.

Turbo'd FSI engines were called TFSI. Since FSI was scrapped, VAG has moved this to TSI, as it's fairly familar in comparision to TFSI (and people do love their TLAs).

These are (broadly) the specs of TSI engine currently produced by VAG:

1.2 TSI (105bhp, turbo)

1.4 TSI (available in: 120bhp, turbo/ 140bhp turbo / 180bhp twin-charger)

1.8 TSI (170bhp, turbo)

2.0 TSI (207bhp, turbo)

Then they go onwards and upwards to the V engines used by Audi.

Just remember kids, the letters in the model name don't actually have to mean anything

Simple answer: Petrol

Complex answer: Depends on how many miles you does/can you put up with the horrible rattle from under the bonnet.

With regards to TSI/FSI/TFSI/ABC/GTI/WTF/GTFO...

There are many, many flavours... the FSI (Fuel Stratified Injection aka direct cylinder injection) is largely stripped out, as it was flakey, and only really ran on good fuel, so they couldn't use it globally.

Turbo'd FSI engines were called TFSI. Since FSI was scrapped, VAG has moved this to TSI, as it's fairly familar in comparision to TFSI (and people do love their TLAs).

These are (broadly) the specs of TSI engine currently produced by VAG:

1.2 TSI (105bhp, turbo)

1.4 TSI (available in: 120bhp, turbo/ 140bhp turbo / 180bhp twin-charger)

1.8 TSI (170bhp, turbo)

2.0 TSI (207bhp, turbo)

Then they go onwards and upwards to the V engines used by Audi.

Just remember kids, the letters in the model name don't actually have to mean anything

Looks like we are both correct then in that case, I must admit I'd not seen a 1.8 Sup 1 or 2 with a blower on it.

Edited 27 October, 201114 yr by Supurbia

Lemme help you hear, buy neither ?

Diesel = Turbo,DPF,Injectors, all potentially very expensive replacements, Turbo's right now are not right, the ones VAG fits across the ranges are failing very quickly.

Petrol = TSi = Turbo,Supercharged Injection, so you have a Turbo and a Supercharger to worry about and added fuel cost's.

Stands by for the fallout.

And don't buy one with electrics, they're really dodgy too!

Try to avoid one with tyres, they can puncture

Petrol and diesel are both flammable, so highly dangerous, so try to avoid these too

;)

And don't buy one with electrics, they're really dodgy too!

Try to avoid one with tyres, they can puncture

Petrol and diesel are both flammable, so highly dangerous, so try to avoid these too

;)

Not really bud, what I should've said was buy a VX or a Ford that has no dpf or turbo, you'll know it soon enough when the moneypit opens for you, VAG isn't very good anymore I'm afraid, pre 2005 maybe, but afterwards, na, not for me anymore, read up on 2.0 B6 Passats, that is what you can expect the Superb to be like long term, already has the dash squeaking so I hear, wait until that pathetic Garrett turbo gives up, or the dmf, simply no good anymore, B5.5 was the last car that matched the VW rep, well almost, the drain bung issue kinda showed the way they were heading.

Simple answer: Petrol

Just remember kids, the letters in the model name don't actually have to mean anything

Correct fuel -

I thought TSi meant "Tidy Superb Innit"

Love my 1.8TSi, I only have a manual, not a DSG but plenty of power (Shark Stage 1) and good fuel economy on a run. Got average of 41.6 this week on the run to Ipswich for work, without driving like a granny. It's so quiet and refined, but when I'm in the mood, it sounds great when it's being wound up to the redline. First few days I owned it, I had to check the rev counter to make sure it was running

With the Skoda VAT deal on petrols, and buying my SE Plus from stock I waited 2 weeks to get into it (I wanted Silver as well so perfect),, the lower cost of petrol and it's frugelness on a long run I don't think a Diesel would be any cheaper for me over the 3 years I plan to keep it.

Love the sig Fluff

Hmm interesting points RE DPF.

The car would be 1-2 year old so any troubles would be covered by warranty.

My current car does not have a DPF, HOWEVER, my commute is between 10 and 14 miles per day depending on which way I drive.

If the 1.8TSI is capable of 40+ mpg, that's pretty impressive - though I assume that's not "around town". My wifes car can manage low 30's around town, she's got a 1.6 Citroen DS3.

Have to say the DS range does look quite nice, if a bit off the wall for me. Though I could never, ever bring myself to get a French car

Hmm interesting points RE DPF.

The car would be 1-2 year old so any troubles would be covered by warranty.

My current car does not have a DPF, HOWEVER, my commute is between 10 and 14 miles per day depending on which way I drive.

If the 1.8TSI is capable of 40+ mpg, that's pretty impressive - though I assume that's not "around town". My wifes car can manage low 30's around town, she's got a 1.6 Citroen DS3.

Have to say the DS range does look quite nice, if a bit off the wall for me. Though I could never, ever bring myself to get a French car

Mine never really get's used around town mate, and it is sensitive to fuel. I tend to drive to my customers site on a Sunday night, and drive home on a Friday, this week it was 223 miles over to Ipswich, but I have been using it for the 5 mile commute from the hotel and back and it's been mid to high 20's for that. Still on the same tank of fuel that I left on Sunday night with though, and I have just under half a tank left and 180 miles range so the MFA says.

I would think the diesel would be more economical on short trips, but I am not gentle with mine at all, in any way shape or form, apart from warm up and warm down and I am constantly averaging low to mid 40's on a run.

At the weekend the Superb get's parked up and I use the bike / push bike / wifes Polo, so with my type of driving I can enjoy the refinement of the petrol engine, and when I'm in the mood it's willingness to rev.

Mid to high 20's around town? Jesus!

My VR6 did that!

But the Superb is the size and weight of a Minky Whale, and this week it's been all stop start down London road into Ipswich city centre (I never got past 3rd gear and 20mph this morning). I could lie and say it did low 40's around town I suppose

Haha! My Octy does 32-34 on the way to work through Preston, but there are a few 50mpg sections which bring the average up I suppose!

I only looked today though, as mine never normally get's used in town.