Hi guys,

My turbo went recently, also took out the intercooler, now i had them both replaced then they took it for a test drive and engine was making noises now the new turbo and intercooler and engine are buggered, i'm trying to find the main cause of this as theres loads of metal in the oil filter and only a little bit of the propeler snapped out, also i've just had the cambelt done very recently within like the week of this happening, do you think if the cambelt was fitted incorrectly, maybe something has broken off the engine then took out the turbo etc? i'm not a mechanic i'm just trying to see if it was possible it had anything to do with the new cambelt it just seems fishy all this happened straight after the cambelt was fitted!

PS has any one had a wrote off fabia recently who want to sell their engine? intercooler and turbo?

Ta

Sounds bad

Turbo seems in your case to have went the engine way

New engine turbo and intercooler req. Yikes!

Best idea push it down a road into a tree lol

Ouch, doesnt sound nice, although if you are willing to source the parts, it shouldnt be too bad. A friend needed a new pd engine for his vrs after it went (drove like a nutter) and he sourced a used one for £800 and I know that the standard intercooler can be brought from ebay for the likes of £50-80, I know this as unit 18 found a crack in mine...soon to be replaced. Unsure about the turbo, hope this helps.

Best idea push it down a road into a tree lol

Classic.

Could that sort of thing happen if the turbo was not primed correctly?

Ok, my argument now is, the engine was fine when i sent it in, it ticked over fine and everything, just the turbo was fooked, now the engine is broke now they have put on the new turbo and intercooler and egr valve, a friend of mine reckons that this could be because they fitted it wrong or didnt clear out any metal or something about kinks in oil lines when getting the turbo in?, do you think it could have been something they have done? i feel like i'm being fobbed off and is looking like a £3k big hole in my pocket.

I see your from manchester... who did the work?

and how do you mean its all buggered?

I see your from manchester... who did the work?

and how do you mean its all buggered?

Hi mate,

Claybank Skoda,

and I mean that i've been told that after fitting the new turbo and intercooler, they took it for a test drive then said it made a loud whistling noise and black smoke came out, and a loud noise coming from engine, they took it back and said theres loads of metal in the oil filter and the engine is broke and thats it basically,

a bit depressed really....

They broke it?

I'd make them pay for it then, whos to say the work was carried out 100% error free?

They did my warranty work on my vrs. Not impressed at all nobody seemed to know what was going on and it went back 4 or 5 times before I.eventually gave up with them and fixed it myself.

Good luck getting it sorted who is dealing with it? Is it Dave?

They broke it?

I'd make them pay for it then, whos to say the work was carried out 100% error free?

difficult to prove and if its an unrelated issue with the engine you could end up with an even bigger bill if they were not at fault.

sounds like you have several different problems.

metal in the oil filter is never good but the new turbo and intercooler should not be damaged unless there was something wrong with the installation or the engine is spitting bits out of the exhaust which should be unlikely.

IF the turbo and intercooler are fine then its probably cheaper to drop in a replacement engine than have a dealer strip and repair however I would have thought that the first thing to check was if they fully cleaned any debris from the intake system when your old turbo went pop.

a chunk of the old turbo heading through the engine could do all sorts of damage and destroy the new turbo at the same time.

if the old turbo broke up on the compressor side (which I guess it must have if they had to replace the intercooler too) then I would have expected them to have had the head off to check for any damage to the valves and pistons before replacing the turbo.

if the turbo has failed again then the first question had to be why?

They did my warranty work on my vrs. Not impressed at all nobody seemed to know what was going on and it went back 4 or 5 times before I.eventually gave up with them and fixed it myself.

Good luck getting it sorted who is dealing with it? Is it Dave?

Hi Ste,

My dad works there so I got him to tell them the engine was fine when i dropped it off, I think he spoke to his boss Dave yea...

difficult to prove and if its an unrelated issue with the engine you could end up with an even bigger bill if they were not at fault.

sounds like you have several different problems.

metal in the oil filter is never good but the new turbo and intercooler should not be damaged unless there was something wrong with the installation or the engine is spitting bits out of the exhaust which should be unlikely.

IF the turbo and intercooler are fine then its probably cheaper to drop in a replacement engine than have a dealer strip and repair however I would have thought that the first thing to check was if they fully cleaned any debris from the intake system when your old turbo went pop.

a chunk of the old turbo heading through the engine could do all sorts of damage and destroy the new turbo at the same time.

if the old turbo broke up on the compressor side (which I guess it must have if they had to replace the intercooler too) then I would have expected them to have had the head off to check for any damage to the valves and pistons before replacing the turbo.

if the turbo has failed again then the first question had to be why?

Hi Mate,

my argument was it was fine when i dropped it off the engine wasnt in the horrible condition it is now, I think like you said they havnt properly checked for any old bits of the turbo hanging about or maybe theyve bent one of the oil pipes and there is oil starvation, either way kind of happy to say i've given the keys back and they've said they will take a look, i just felt a bit hurt when it was basically "your engines now broke, heres your keys deal with it!"

Hi Mate,

my argument was it was fine when i dropped it off the engine wasnt in the horrible condition it is now, I think like you said they havnt properly checked for any old bits of the turbo hanging about or maybe theyve bent one of the oil pipes and there is oil starvation, either way kind of happy to say i've given the keys back and they've said they will take a look, i just felt a bit hurt when it was basically "your engines now broke, heres your keys deal with it!"

it does sound like they have made a complete mess of the repair. good to hear that they are hopefully going to sort it out.

I am sure I would also be gutted and more than a little ****ed off by that sort of service.

once fixed it sounds like you need to find a different dealer!

Holy retarded guesswork batman!

If the oil filter really is contaminated with metal then it can really only have got there through either:

1) A piston failure, which means that they didn't remove the cylinder head and carefully check for damage to the valves, head, injectors and pistons.

2) A turbo bearing failure prior to the inducer failure, in which case a main bearing cap should have been removed to inspect the exposed bearing half for impacted contamination.

In my experience most garages attempt to weave a crude and obfuscatory tissue of lies, half truths and gross exaggeration when dealing with their customers, especially when things go wrong.

I would be very interested to know why they didn't change the oil and filter as a matter of course after installing a new turbo, that's like not bothering to renew the cambelt after you've removed the head!

They said they had changed the oil and the filter, i actually provided the PD oil for the job, but as you say they probably hadn't removed the cylinder head to check!

Well im shouting through incompetence they've screwed your engine The new turbo and intercooler

By my book you should be getting a new engine FOC and new tubby and ic obviously of which you'll pay for

Edited 27 October, 201114 yr by BigJase88

engine FOC?

do you know if they took the sump off and cleaned it out? Metal fragments could have been blown down the oil return into the sump, from there they could get picked up and pushed round the system?

When I replaced my turbo I took off the sump and fully cleaned it out; there was nothing in there fortunately, but I'm sure its easily posible and you'd expect the main dealer garages to do a thorough job.

Foc = free of charge

do you know if they took the sump off and cleaned it out? Metal fragments could have been blown down the oil return into the sump, from there they could get picked up and pushed round the system?

When I replaced my turbo I took off the sump and fully cleaned it out; there was nothing in there fortunately, but I'm sure its easily posible and you'd expect the main dealer garages to do a thorough job.

To be fair the first stop in the oil system after being picked up from the sump is actually the filter and that should catch everything, I strongly suspect a piston failure of some sort.

In which case the engine itself probably isn't scrap, it just needs re-conditioning, the likely explanation is that the dealer will have to outsource this work and cannnot therefore absorb the cost. This still doesn't explain why the new turbo and intercooler have allegedly failed though!

I'm hopefully having new hybrid turbo and intercooler fitted in about 2 weeks. Would then have old parts for sale (however the intercooler housing which fits the lower boost pipe has a damaged fitting). I realise 2 weeks may be too long to wait but if you are still in the same predicament let me know. The works being done in Wolverhampton so we could meet up. Hope you get the engine sorted - I hate being without my Furby

Intercooler fittings can be fixed with 4 self tappers through the collar of the intercooler and boost hose collar!!

Will never pop off again

I've had a deasel engine guy look over the engine, he reckons originally the oil pump went starving the turbo of oil which caused the first one to go, and now in piston chamber 3 it has broken, the conrods bent, the boars are scored and the crank shaft has gone needs regrinding or something along those lines?, but none of this happened until they fitted a new turbo and new intercooler, I could do with some advice where I stand legally now... I mean I sent it in there with suspected turbo failure, would it not have been their responsibility to check why the turbo went originally to prevent further damage from happening? but cause they didn't the whole engine is knackered now....

Thanks very much in advance..... bit of a difficult time especially being without a car for 3 weeks so far!!

Ta

Well if the oil pump was broken then thats seized the new turbo and guffed the engine hasnt it.....

Big claim against skoda imo!!