I know this topic has probably been done many times but I am struggling to find a thread that is relevant to my location.

I am looking at remapping my 06 plate 2.0 petrol VRS in the New Year but I am unsure of where to go. I am based near Edinburgh and have been looking at Angel Tuning and STAR performance. What one is the better choice and why and is there any others to available to me?

I am unsure with Angel due to the lack of rolling road but have subsequently read reviews saying that this is not an issue; there standard remap is also nearly half the price of STAR. On top of this what other upgrades would be advised when doing the remap; should I get the filters done and upgrade the brake pads?

I appreciate that there is allot of questions in that but would like the advice from the people who have got the experience!

Cheers

Calum

may last car (fiat grande punto 1.9 multijet 130bhp) was mapped by angel tuning at 4,000 miles, and I went on to do 110,000 faultless miles in that car... it wasnt the highest power map (165 bhp 314 lbs/ft, generic obviously) but was reliable, and cheap

Out of the two i would suggest Star Performance, if the Rolling Road is no issue then Shark Performance is the place to go using the STS system its amazing, the power is so smooth and progressive i love mine.

I've got an STS unit for sale if you're interested - you can then put a shark map on the car on your own driveway

There is sure to be a local revo agent near you. It will cost more but you get what you pay for. You don't need a rolling road unless you want to know the before and after figures as stage 1 is a standard map.

I bought my 07 petrol vRS a bluefin off ebay from demon tweeks it cost me £450 and come with a K&N Panel filter they reakon it should be kicking out around 250 bhp and it feels that way too :-)

I bought my 07 petrol vRS a bluefin off ebay from demon tweeks it cost me £450 and come with a K&N Panel filter they reakon it should be kicking out around 250 bhp and it feels that way too :-)

I think you will be lucky to see anymore than 230 to 235 on a stage 1 on a tfsi and to be near the top end of that you would need to be using 98 unleaded or higher.

^ what he said!

On the website superchips show a graph of before and after and the after shows 238bhp they must be guessing the other 12 comes from the panel filter.

On the website superchips show a graph of before and after and the after shows 238bhp they must be guessing the other 12 comes from the panel filter.

My TFSi is making 251.5bhp with stage 1 shark map and an Evoms intake. Running on V Power

A pure beast of a car....not much on the road that could take it on :-)

My TFSi is making 251.5bhp with stage 1 shark map and an Evoms intake. Running on V Power

The Evoms intake are supposed to give 10-15bhp so that would be about right

On the website superchips show a graph of before and after and the after shows 238bhp they must be guessing the other 12 comes from the panel filter.

Panel filter won't give 12bhp, I'd be surprised if it gave anything to be honest. Makes for a better sound, that's about it.

Would also recommend Ben at Shark Performance - i've got his map on my 10-plate Petrol VRS Hatch and it's superb. Swapped the map myself using the STS plug-in unit, only takes 10 minutes.

Thanks for all the replies!!

Going to have a look at Shark and STAR. I am hoping to get 245 bhp and 255 lb/ft if I get the stage 1 done; is this a reasnoble expectation?

My TFSi is making 251.5bhp with stage 1 shark map and an Evoms intake. Running on V Power

So my TFSi with a W8 delivered stage 2 shark map, Evoms intake and Milltek sport cat should make??????

who gives a **** about peak power? its all about the curve (and the torque is what pushes you back in your seat anyway, not the power).

:wonder:

My TFSi is making 251.5bhp with stage 1 shark map and an Evoms intake. Running on V Power

Sounds about right

My Shark stage 1 made 240hp/260lbft with stock intake.

ITG Maxogen/EVOMS/Forge intakes net around 8-15hp dependant on the stage of tune

So my TFSi with a W8 delivered stage 2 shark map, Evoms intake and Milltek sport cat should make??????

260hp and about 280lbft on a dyno dynamics roller

Thanks for all the replies!!

Going to have a look at Shark and STAR. I am hoping to get 245 bhp and 255 lb/ft if I get the stage 1 done; is this a reasnoble expectation?

On a dyno dynamics roller a good stage 1 remap with no supporting mods will give you 235-240hp and 250-260lbft. Other dynos might show 255hp/300lbft but if you want to believe that....

A good map on a K03 TFSI will normally have a really nice plateau of power from 4k onwards peaking at around 5.5k before tailing off

Here's my graph :p

Panel filter won't give 12bhp, I'd be surprised if it gave anything to be honest. Makes for a better sound, that's about it.

This week we had a 2007 Octavia that delivered 3 consistent runs of 250hp (highest was 251.something) with an ITG panel filter.

The difference is that we quote a realistic 240 and over achieve, where our competitors quote 255 and struggle to get 240..

This week we had a 2007 Octavia that delivered 3 consistent runs of 250hp (highest was 251.something) with an ITG panel filter.

The difference is that we quote a realistic 240 and over achieve, where our competitors quote 255 and struggle to get 240..

That doesn't tell you what gains the panel filter gives; my point above was that they're negligible if anything at all.

Put that same car on another set of rollers and / or with a different operator and you could get 3 consistent runs of 240hp or 3 consistent runs of 260hp. Variances between different rolling roads is common place, we all know that, but of course all tuners will claim that their rolling roads are accurate and that their software achieves better than their competitors.

Peak figures are one thing, but it's the size of the area under the curve that really matters.

At the end of the day, it's about how it drives anyway and as long as people are pleased with their remaps [and generally people are with Shark] that's the important thing.

I agree, peak power is for the pub, a nice smooth torque curve is for driveability and the thrill........

My advice - get a Shark map.

But then again, I may be a bit biased.

I will hopefully have a 2.0T next year which will remain stock for a while however i will prob go for a jabba sport map.

Wrnt on a RR day with MdMay a while back, his Stage 1 Jabba+ intake vs my stage 1 Shark with stock intake. The result was......neigh on identical with mine making 240hp/270lbft and mikes making 246hp/260lbft(ish iirc).

The jabba map was a very smooth map as well, he seemed very happy with it.

Garage i use locally is a jabba vendor. Trust the guys fully and i get a discount, know fine well if they didnt think the product was one of the best they wouldnt stock it.