Well I've drove extra 'eco' this morning got 36.5 MPG :(

robkirby don't get too upset. My personal best is 6.4LT/100KM => 44 mpg which I achieved only once, in September temperatures when driving cold from home to work on a 10KM trip, I bet you could achieve that too as long as you had some long straights and not many uphills in your journey. On the other hand, I end up asking myself, "Why did I do that anyway? Do I really need to be that careful with throttle? (speaking from an economic point of view) Fortunately not, so let me enjoy this car!"

My typical/everyday drive includes exiting a big, slow roundabout and entering the highway having reached the speed limit in 3-4 seconds while at the same time overtaking most of the cars on the highway, and givin it the beans during some semi-private country roads just before I get home. That's why I bought this car and since I can do all the above in a single trip and still get 30-35 mpg it's more than fine to me, comparing with older cars I drove which returned similar or worse fuel economy for 1/3 of the vRS's performance. To me, the real fuel economy is how many mpg do you get from a car, If driving it as it should be driven.

I don't disagree with any of sharkrider's advice on how to get more economic figures and I was doing a lot of these things in my old 80 bhp car, as it would be ridiculous and costly to pretend to be fast, but I won't sit behind someone doing 40mph just to save fuel, not in the vRS anyway. The thing with the vRS is it can be surprisingly quick and still return acceptable figures so why bother?

After all, it really doesn't make sense to choose a car with 180 bhp / Turbo + Supercharger, performance that busts a lot of allegedly quicker and sportier models out there and yet be on your toes for the slightest economic maneuever possible? Why not settle for a lower model in the first place?

if your cars are still low mileage, you should see it improve, believe me most of the time i'm not in "eco" mode, after all I bought a vRS, and those that know me will testify how I drive most of the time

BUT to and from work (night shift last night) little traffic on the way ther , no reall "eco" effort, all the speed limitys most of the (50-70 mph...) and 47.5 mpg....

on the way back this morning.... I was in the rush hour traffic, and I really dont sit behind people (or HGV's) doing 40... I made three overtakes on full throttle to 7,000 revs... and still had 41 mpg when I got home...

maybe its because I dont have any stop start traffic in my commute, maybe its because I dont baby it when cold and get it up to temperature quickly, maybe its just because I now have 24k on the clock... I dont know, but they were my real figures yesterday (today) without really trying...

It's a shame that the car is going but I can understand the dissapointment in the figures. I went for the 105CR Monte precisely for economy reasons. I heard that the 1.2Tsi was thirsty and to be honest the 1.6CR doesn't get near claimed miles per gallon, I wouldn't class it as uneconomical though. Hopefully the CR will pay off when it comes to resale though, most new Monte's were going as Tsi's so hopefully that will mean a higher residual on the CR's when prices have had chance to settle a little. Good luck with whatever you decide to buy, if it were me I'd go German or Jap

On just MPG I am not sure you will get an difference with other makes as they all strive to hit high MPG figures.

You never know you might get a car like my old GL2 where MPG is the last of your worries, some one either at the dealers or auction is going to by it.

What ever you choose hope it goes Ok.

Edited 19 January, 201214 yr by Dempsek

Dave I suspect its millage as my last VAG engine before the VRS took 25k miles to be fully run in.

The VRS now with over 10k on it is certainly better than it was when new was making 30MPG avarage new now up to 35-38.

Have you contacted trading standards? How have you been in contact with SUK? Keep everything in black and white, ie recorded letters, emails etc, avoid phone calls.

Give them 14 days to repair the car or it will be rejected under the Sales of Goods Act under 'Reasonable quality'. Give Trading standards a call and get a call logged with them to get the ball rolling.

Just to note that you have to proceed with any SOGA actions with the supplying dealer.

Don't give up and ask us any questions you need - there is no such thing as a stupid question.

Have you contacted trading standards? How have you been in contact with SUK? Keep everything in black and white, ie recorded letters, emails etc, avoid phone calls.

Give them 14 days to repair the car or it will be rejected under the Sales of Goods Act under 'Reasonable quality'. Give Trading standards a call and get a call logged with them to get the ball rolling.

Just to note that you have to proceed with any SOGA actions with the supplying dealer.

Don't give up and ask us any questions you need - there is no such thing as a stupid question.

Many thanks JRW for the sound advice, I never thought about contacting trading standards so will give them a go. The trouble is I feel guilty towards my local dealer because I never brought the car from them, and I know every time I take my car in for more test they don't get payed for the time spent as Skoda only pay the dealers if something is found wrong with the car.

I have asked Skoda to send out one of their so called tech guys from Milton Keynes but apparently they are not allowed to talk to members of the public, I think they are to sensitive to sun light and don't speak English and have webbed feet. The trouble is my local dealer said they have never known Skoda UK give in on a car that has got this sort of problem, it seems they can get away with a car with poor mpg as they never generated the figures In the first place.

Edited 20 January, 201214 yr by Vrs2

OT but how are people drive off cold? I tend to use paddles, keep it below 2000rpm but I can still make decent progress as 7th gear at 50mph is about 2000rpm and slowly build up as the temp rises. I want until it's about 75-80 degrees on the oil temp before really booting it

OT but how are people drive off cold? I tend to use paddles, keep it below 2000rpm but I can still make decent progress as 7th gear at 50mph is about 2000rpm and slowly build up as the temp rises. I want until it's about 75-80 degrees on the oil temp before really booting it

I drive normally, using strong acceleration and revs if ness.... people seem a little paraniod, like when people used to change he oil at 500 miles on a new car, they seem to be sticking to old tech ideas... the oil is perfectly capable of protectecting the engine when cold...

I must admit, i dont use full revs when very cold but I will take it up to 4-5k... but thats just me being guilty of the above remark... I also run it gently befor I stop, (habbit from my old turbo days, i.e a saab 900 whos turbo wasnt even water cooled) but this engine has a pump to keep cooling the turbo after switch off..

think of it this way.. IF you are causing more damage when cold... is it best to be gentle with it, and have it stay cold for 3 times the time my car stays cold every day, or is it best to drive it normally and warm it up quickly... it'll warm up bloody quickly if you boot it trust me! lol...

I don't know... maybe I'm putting too much faith in modern technology, but i doubt I'll have any engine issues, I never have and have run all my cars over 100k...

thats just me

There are many arguments for taking it easy when cold. I just dont

Good point. I push it a little bit more when I go home tonight. Normally it takes a few miles for it to even get the oil temp to 50 degrees.

The ford fiesta are built to a bugdet and are very pricey for what they are, well i'm referring to the ridiculous Metal and Zetec S models,

some many small superminis will give more pace and power than the fiesta with it's 115bhp and 125bhp outputs for £15k and £16k S and Metal options.

For example, the Clio GT, 128bhp, specced up is only £13.5k

or a Alfa Mito 135 Lusso £15k

The fiesta's whilst they are very good cars are only value for money in 82ps 1.25 engine nothing higher than Zetec spec.

On the fuel front I just had a loan car from allams for a few days whilst work was being done on the Octavia. 1.2TSI not sure which engine power spec but I was actually very impressed with it. Only cover about 120ish miles over the 3 days mostly around town work. Lowest in traffic (1.5 hours to travel 4 miles!!) was 31.3 and highest 46.8, this was on the cars trip.

Overall apart from being a little gutless of turbo its a very nice little engine.

I hope the new car suits you I would for sure get a long test drive and drive it was you would in every normal day situation.

I took my vrs for a longer drive today not really to test the MPG but because I wanted a bit of fun. I drove from Maidstone in Kent down the A and B roads to Hastings,East Sussex then back via Tesco for a fill up of Momentum, a round trip of 75 miles.I did not hang about although I did spend a bit of time stuck behind slower traffic but was able to make 3 spirited overtake moves.

My car has done 720 miles now and I managed to get a very good 43 MPG, I have been getting about 30 MPG driving a short trip through town to work and any slightly longer trips have returned about 35 MPG.I am more than happy with this as it can only get better and now I know every time I give it a blast I don't have to feel guilty about using too much fuel.

I took my vrs for a longer drive today not really to test the MPG but because I wanted a bit of fun. I drove from Maidstone in Kent down the A and B roads to Hastings,East Sussex then back via Tesco for a fill up of Momentum, a round trip of 75 miles.I did not hang about although I did spend a bit of time stuck behind slower traffic but was able to make 3 spirited overtake moves.

My car has done 720 miles now and I managed to get a very good 43 MPG, I have been getting about 30 MPG driving a short trip through town to work and any slightly longer trips have returned about 35 MPG.I am more than happy with this as it can only get better and now I know every time I give it a blast I don't have to feel guilty about using too much fuel.

good effort, between 30 and 43 mpg at that low mileage should easy see you averaging the suggested 45mpg after 10k or so

good effort, between 30 and 43 mpg at that low mileage should easy see you averaging the suggested 45mpg after 10k or so

Yes I was very pleased and I really did not try very hard.