HI found this on eb---- LOBA LO-S1 upgrade turbcharger for 1.4 TSI VRS 270ps item number 130647488926 ( £1700)

Edited 15 February, 201214 yr by skoda1982

Its bbeing fitted to mine next week all going well.

Take the 270ps with a pinch of salt though. That figure is purely based on compressor maps.

It doesn't take into account fueling, boost limits, dsg limits, internal piston/rod limits, heat etc.

The highest figure I have seen on a realistic rolling road and is the Max this turbo can hit are from hurdys car.

Miltek TBE, ITG Maxogen, revo stage 2, devils own water methonal injection.

Bear in mind the hybrid is the same shell as the stock turbo, but with more efficient internals. I reckon around +20-20hp is realistically the gain. Can't see it being any more though

How does the DSG cope with all torque and added hp?

No worries with mine and I've been running mapped since 800 miles. Now at 8500.

Still uncharted territory but the 6spd dsg gearbox was massively stronger than the manual. Guys were running 450hp and 450+lbft with no issues. That's considering the boxes were designed for a car that has only 200hp when standard.

B&B reputable german tuner offer stage 3 at 250 bhp and 350nm for about 5k

250bhp would be mental.

Hum, and how much will that cost?

Surely your then being held back in terms of power potential by the supercharger?

or am i (as usual) talking round objects?

I know I have seen (and been told) that the turbo on any of the 100bhp Smart cars is much bigger than the one fitted to the 1.2 TSI and the turbo on the vRS seems fairly "dinky" too.

Edited 15 February, 201214 yr by Ross Chapman

Hum, and how much will that cost?

Surely your then being held back in terms of power potential by the supercharger?

or am i (as usual) talking round objects?

I know I have seen (and been told) that the turbo on any of the 100bhp Smart cars is much bigger than the one fitted to the 1.2 TSI and the turbo on the vRS seems fairly "dinky" too.

The Loba LO270 hybrid RRP is 1995euros, so not cheap. You could send your turbo to turbodynamics and have it hybridized for alot less, but it wont have gone through the R&D and strict testing process of Loba, and will also be a used item. Also not sure about the warranty.

LOBA Motorsports GmbH LO270 turbocharger

state-of-the-art “Extended Tip†compressor wheel

5-axis CNC re-profiled compressor housing and backplate

5-axis CNC re-profiled turbine housing

special clipped turbine wheel

optimized clearances

modified actuator

uprated bearing

precision balancing of individual components and CHRA

Depending on engine management settings, engine condition and other components utilized this turbo is capable of producing 270 PS

Reference the Supercharger. It will not with hold any power from the car when stage 3 hybrid mapped.

The supercharger doesnt always operate and it only activates when it is required. ifg there is no heavy boost required it wont engage, if there is a high bvoost request it will operate until the peak boost is made and the turbo is able to carry on. But the supercharger will be completely disengaged via the magnetic clutch mechanism no later than 3500rpm, after that point it is purely the turbo charger working.

Data logging by Jabbasport showed that it will be deactivated by the ECU as soon as the turbo is on boost and wont just stay on for no reason. They said they had seen it being disengaged as low as 2500rpm as there was no requirement for it as it was hitting peak boost before that.

Think an uprated supercharger would only make a big diffrence if it was running a bigger turbo as it would take longer to reach peak boost(usaly) bit i could be wrong

Hurdy is looking at reducing the supercharger pulley for more midrange. I mentioned this to APR who said not to bother.

Isn't it an Eaton charger as per the old Mini Cooper S?

What alot of the Golf boys put on MK3 GTI and VR6's etc?

They always put a chip and smaller pully on those.

But those cars run the supercharger all the way to the redline. Our supercharger only works to 3500rpm. The bearings, and balancing of these would wear out very quickly anywhere above that

*thinking out loud*

Why not get rid of the turbo and have a larger Supercharger that runs to the redline?

*thinking out loud*

Why not get rid of the turbo and have a larger Supercharger that runs to the redline?

Superchargers are better for intial torque whereas a turbo is for high end power(or at least a high comp)

Supercharger will give smother power delivery but a turbo gives alot more out and out power

So you wouldnt get as much power as running it with a turbo

*thinking out loud*

Why not get rid of the turbo and have a larger Supercharger that runs to the redline?

Turbos develop low power low down the rev range, but high power up the rev range.

Superchargers are the opposite.

Hence the newer mini cooper S changing to a turbo as sperchargers are a drain on top end power.

This is why twincharged engines are awesome. Bet attributes of both options with none of the draw backs

Is everything pictured included in the kit ie exhaust manifold etc as i cant see where the turbine housing joins the manifold.

Also does this require a new intake pipe or any extra modifications?

Is everything pictured included in the kit ie exhaust manifold etc as i cant see where the turbine housing joins the manifold.

Also does this require a new intake pipe or any extra modifications?

Nothing else required.

I dont think thats too bad price wise and you could probably run that on an otherwise standard engine without a remap even

No worries with mine and I've been running mapped since 800 miles. Now at 8500.

mines done 700 now and i'm about to go stage 1 just need to save a few more quids

I'd actually LOVE that :(

I've ordered my Loba LO270 and the flow characteristics of the Loba turbo should give 265-270bhp with water methanol injection, without it I'd reckon on 250bhp.

Forget the supercharger pulley, you'll not get any top end power benefits and only a slightly higher torque lower down, which isn't always good for grip anyway.

The Loba LO270 hybrid RRP is 1995euros, so not cheap.

:'( :'( :'(

1700quid for 20bhp seems a bit much

If you pay the full RRP it is ......

Might be more than 20hp. APR Australia reckon they have theirs upto 160kW at the wheels which 270hp at the flywheel!! That would be a 50hp gain overtheir previous setup

If you pay the full RRP it is ......

Might be more than 20hp. APR Australia reckon they have theirs upto 160kW at the wheels which 270hp at the flywheel!! That would be a 50hp gain overtheir previous setup

i suppose it would be better then going stage 2 then this, if you started from stock and straight to it.