The question goes out primarily to owners with more than 10K miles as by having read similar threads I think its something that does not appear in the early days (miles) and takes some time to develop.

So question: When you're standing still, windows fully down/open and in a quite environment where you can distinguish noises etc. try moving the gear selector from D to N. Do you hear a judder that sounds maybe a little louder than expected? Please write your mileage as well as I know that the clutch is disengaging etc. etc but I'd bet I never heard it until recently and I have the feeling it starts to develop something...

One more thing that worries me is that I am about to change the springs to H&R ones and If there is actually something that needs replacing under warranty I may get all kinds of troubles with the dealer, although the springs would have nothing to do with it... In that case I should cancel my scheduled installation and wait until this gets sorted...

All replies appreciated!

Lets get this right then.

Car run & up to 88 degrees, gearbox used for 10 miles or so,

or a cold engine just started?

Do you want it started from cold in P then moved to D, move a little, stop, then moved back to N. ?

done

*No noise.* that there should not be.

Do you want me to come to a Halt while driving in D, foot on foot brake and into N.

done

*no noise* that there should not be.

10,800 miles.

First Reg 7/2010.

Engine rebuilt @ 4000 miles & used oil untill 7000 miles and sweet as a nut now.

Gearbox is a little rough feeling for 2 minutes after starting the day after being thrashed.

Actually just the slightly rusty discs from overnight binding untill i apply the brakes and drag the hand brake a few yards, and not the gearbox.

george

Driven and warmed up properly, or cold (well as "cold" as it can get with 30 degrees outside now) does not change this for me. I hear it every time.

So there's already one that doesn't do it then.

Maybe I try and capture this with the crappy phone's mic... me going out...

Edited 29 June, 201213 yr by newbie69

No judder, no sound. All I feel is the hill holder release click on my foot

Car: 1.2 TSI DSG, 16K km

Mine makes a light metal clunk when you move from D to N. Its just the clutch packs disengaging i think. All the DSG cars ive driven have done this.

My problem is i hear phantom noises from my car lol

Mine makes a light metal clunk when you move from D to N. Its just the clutch packs disengaging i think. All the DSG cars ive driven have done this.

More like it, not really a "judder" but like there is second "click" after you've put it in N. Maybe it's all just normal but I am hearing this very same sound sometimes when I break from 3rd to 2nd and sometimes upwards... I can not distinguish If it is this "judder" that's been discussed and is considered normal, OR an issue which needs looking at, given that people had new clutch packs fitted etc. I dont know where this sound falls into.

My problem is i hear phantom noises from my car lol

I think I got the same disease with the vRS even though I love it...

Edited 29 June, 201213 yr by newbie69

Sorry , but just to be clear.

You have driven,

you have stopped,

you are on the flat and in D & you go to N, and you hear a noise that you dont like the noise of?

You have no foot on the brake, you are just sitting in D, and shift to N ?

Mechanical gearbox needs to make some moves,

engine revs change, different day in a different temperature etc.

Best get a drive in others cars and compare.

11,000 miles is not even really run in unless its being thrashed constantly.

I am using my geabox hard quite a few times each evening, and during most days and its just getting to be really nice.

I only go looking for problems with gearboxes when i know i have done something i shouldnt have.

Best drive it and enjoy, life is too short to worry over it.

I posted in another post that i was Worrying because the car was going too well, when so many forum cars have problems..

george

PS.

I like sitting in N, then D and then going to S, for that rev pick up, love it.

Seldom then take off in S tho,

i move it back to D, then try it again. love it some more...

i like to drive off or boot it off in D almost always.

Edited 29 June, 201213 yr by sk4gw

DSGs can make some really bad noises in my experience, it's just the way they are.

Sorry , but just to be clear.

...

Maybe after reading about so many supposed issues (I agree that not all of them are actual "issues") I may have been convinced there is an issue with mine as well, I am not being paranoid but that's why I've posted so as to compare with others experiences. TBH all this started recently when I drove with windows down after a long time. In particular it was one night during a tiring start-stop route downtown where I started hearing "clicks" from the box almost every time I braked from 4th to 2nd and then again accelerated to 3rd and 4th. Thought it could have got "warm" with all this bloody city traffic and then forgot about it but I've heard it again since that night and today, I heard the same sound (or just happened to notice it since I was already alarmed) when doing what I described.

Maybe it is just the sound of the clutches when they are slipping which under certain conditions can sound louder than usual, but with all these posts about juddering and clutch packs replaced you cant be too sure. Then its the fact I am changing springs and though hey If something needs to get fixed better fix it before!

Sorry, pointless story here, but you made me think.

I was sitting parked on Monday in the centre of the road parking George Street, Edinburgh and was convinced i had not switched the engine off,

and tried it twice, then again.

Dawned on me as the double deckers pulled up at the lights it felt like the car was going.

& when one or 2 busses was sitting running in front and behind it became bl00dy uncomfortable as the car vibrated.

I was pleased to leave there and then though how smooth the car was going as i had to trail through 40mph road works for 20 miles, then the joy of opening it up.

george

I don't have a DSG but in service area i heard one or two of them making a metallic KLAK kind of noise and then in reverse or moving forward. I never asked why I thought it was normal due to engage - disengage proccess.

I think I have the same problem as vRSy

Just been out like i do and have a scoot, put the fan off for you to really listen and my mate to listen.

I was never stopped on a slope so no Hill Hold Control coming in at any point. So silence.

Stop & go to N or R or P, back to D no noises.

Did a few back to S, love it. (my mate loves it, so i let him see the full display, S starts D starts, TCS on and off.

Did some over to manual and 1st and booting it up the gears without shifting, and then back to D and stop & into N, silence.

I would check underneath & under the bonnet closely for heat sheilds, exhaust or similar being lose,

and if you can not find anything have the mechanic check it out..

Are your brake pads all OK with plenty of meat on them? no rattling or anything from them.?

george

Yup, metal clank when changing from D to P or D to R done it on the other vrs dsg I test drive and the one I bought.....and in my knackered dag gearbox and in my new dsg gearbox

Edited 29 June, 201213 yr by Wilko251088

Mine makes a light metal clunk when you move from D to N. Its just the clutch packs disengaging i think. All the DSG cars ive driven have done this.

Wilko251088[/b]']Yup, metal clank when changing from D to P

Mine does the same. The clunk occurs about a second after moving into 'N'. (2010 VRS @ 15K miles)

I get the little "clack" going from D to N - nothing the other way. Think its done it from new (now over 70k). 2010 Scirocco 1.4 TSI but same lump...

Can get beautiful judder when its warm though! Only happens in 2nd when it insists not changing down even if you're crawling at 1mph...although I can get some lurching on the change to 4th after sitting stationary in gear (M6 Toll booth the normal place).