Looking on google there are many stories of how unreliable the 2.0 TDI is with failing turbos, injectors and oil pumps to name a few. Yet I know someone who has a 2008 2.0 TDI in another VAG product and has had no problems.

Are all 2.0 TDI's effected or is it just certain engine codes and years.

Thanks.

VAG tend to release engines to Audi before VW and then seat/skoda get them after that. On this basis it's likely that a 2008 Audi has the newer CR diesel engine whilst skodas of the same age still have the older PD version.

Not that the PD was bad as such - but it does tend to be responsibly for more of the problems. I also found the drive irritating as the vast majority of the power is bunched up in a fairly small rev range. Then again I came from many years of petrol whereas my mate who has run dervs for a long time was less bothered by it

The person I know has a 2008 VW, would this have an improved 2.0 TDI?

Not that the PD was bad as such - but it does tend to be responsibly for more of the problems. I also found the drive irritating as the vast majority of the power is bunched up in a fairly small rev range. Then again I came from many years of petrol whereas my mate who has run dervs for a long time was less bothered by it

Was it just the 2.0 TDI that was bad what about the 1.9?

Thanks.

Edited 5 September, 201213 yr by SKOD

I had a 1.9 in the Mk 1 Octy, had one turbo at around 115000 miles but was remapped at 8000 miles, I put 165000 miles on it & its still going strong with a mate on around 190000 miles

Currently have a 2.0 PD, 68000 faultless miles in 27 months ( DPF removed)

All makes have horror stories & the Internet magnifies them & remember things like turbos are service critical, if you dont change the oil & use decent stuff it will catch up with you eventually & thats the bit the owner dosent mention when he slags the manufacturer on the web. Have you heard the one about the new CR Diesel Injectors going at higher milage & seen the cost of fixing that. Ive heard it but dont know anyone its happened to

For a statement of their reliability just look at your local taxi rank, odds are there will be Octavias with positivly intergalactic mileages & we all know to a taxi driver choice of charriot is due to practicality as a 4/5 seater & running cost.

Currently have a 2.0 PD, 68000 faultless miles in 27 months ( DPF removed)

What age is your PD, any reason why you had the DPF removed

All makes have horror stories & the Internet magnifies them & remember things like turbos are service critical, if you dont change the oil & use decent stuff it will catch up with you eventually

Not too worried about the turbo as I would use the proper oil and get it changed every 12 months or 10,000 miles whatever occurred earlier. My concern is over the oil pump failure leading to a ruined engine or the injectors failing leaving me stranded in the outstide lane of a motorway.

I did not want to believe the stories on the internet but have also asked the garage that services my current car and they advised the 1.9 was a more reliable engine.

For a statement of their reliability just look at your local taxi rank, odds are there will be Octavias with positivly intergalactic mileages & we all know to a taxi driver choice of charriot is due to practicality as a 4/5 seater & running cost.

Yes you do see a lot of Taxi Ocatavia's but I wonder how many of them are 2.0 TDI's ?

I've had 2 x 2.0TDI PD cars, done 40K between the two (currently on 50K on my current one) and not had a problem (touch wood). My dad has a 7 year old 2.0TDI PD with 19K on the clock (no, this is correct) and he hasn't had any issues either.

Mine needs a few bob on wear and tear items, but that is to be expected on a 6.5 year old car.

The ohh my turbo blew, oh this oh that affected the 1.9 too.

1.9's tend to be driven less hard, so obviously you're going to see a bit less of the driven hard failures.

At the same time, they still have the DMF issues.

Injectors are the same in the PD140 or PD105, so it's just the PD170 that had that issue and that affects all VAG.

Oil pump only affects the 2.0 TDI in the superb MK I and nothing else as far as I know.

The 2.0 isn't a bad engine and a lot of people who knock it have a 1.9. Anyone would think they're trying to justify their 'superior purchase' sometimes

Exception being a taxi, where the availability of a single mass flywheel from the dealers makes it more suitable for their constant start stop driving.

2.0 TDI PD here. Been in the family since new.....6 years old and 70,000 miles. No problems as yet, although the DMF is sounding a bit rattly now, but it's a DSG and the flywheel in the DSG is not known for its longevity.

Most of the problems you mention only affect particular engines, PD170 with the injectors (which were recalled I think), oil pump failure is only an issue on a very small number of 2.0 PD's.

The 1.9 is a good engine....(I have one in my Fabia) but they are good mainly because they have been in production for a long time now....most issues have been ironed out. The early 1.9's were very prone to premature cam lobe wear....an expensive item to replace.

Looking on google there are many stories of how unreliable the 2.0 TDI is with failing turbos, injectors and oil pumps to name a few. Yet I know someone who has a 2008 2.0 TDI in another VAG product and has had no problems.

Are all 2.0 TDI's effected or is it just certain engine codes and years.

Thanks.

To answer the original question, no not all PD140 engine codes were affected by the issues you describe. The BKD unit used on the Octy2 from launch did not suffer from the oil pump issue you've found discussions about. When you're reading up about issues you need to be sure which version of the engine they're talking about. Thankfully with engine codes, VAG makes it quite easy to work this out

The main issue to be aware of, as mentioned already is that the original turbo fitted to the BKD is probably not as strong as it should be, and you should certainly be aware of this if you're considering remapping for extra performance.

I am considering this very thing (remapping a BKD).. I am in two minds though it would be cheaper than getting a new car..

Having been through this cycle with the std turbo, I'd be more wary of doing so - compared with say the Mk1 Fabia vRS.

You'll also get a lower safe remap figure from it - expect no more than an actual 30bhp increase. Be wary of those quoting more. They're either being economical with the truth, or pushing the standard turbo beyond what it's safely capable of.

Yep 30bhp is fine, I don't want headline figures, just a conservative map that'll make the car a bit more pleasurable to drive.

What age is your PD, any reason why you had the DPF removed

Sorry, car is 27 months old, didnt clarify that in the original post

We removed the DPF as we had major issues with the DPF on our previous Superb, it failed on the side of a mountain in Southern France, interestingly the Superb was a 2.0 D, sold at around 80000 miles & no injector, turbo, oil pump issues & it went to be a Taxi, chap had one before as a taxi but a lorry shortened its life !!

In the Octavia Its only I believe the Scout & possibly the 4x4 versions of the 2.0 PD that have a DPF anyway so other 2.0 PD's wont have the "potential" DPF issue

If you are really worried & If its a newish car out of warranty Skoda offer extended warranties, I believe its for 12 or 24 months (£397.90 and £727.95 respectively). The only stipulation I believe is that a vehicle multi point check will be required to ensure there are no defects before the warranty is actioned. I think it is stated that the car must be under 100000 miles at inception and will cover only mechanical items, not wear and tear so their may be some grey areas.

Edited 5 September, 201213 yr by Stuart_J

Only PD vRS and Scout 4x4 models have the DPF.

Mine, for example, does not have one.

Don't forget that a BKD can have a porous head, rev B less likely and apparently fixed on a Rev C head.

Not forgetting modern diesel variable vane turbo technology and sooting up issues causing overboost codes. Apparently Mr Muscle is a good cure (carefully applied).

Paul

Don't forget that a BKD can have a porous head, rev B less likely and apparently fixed on a Rev C head.

Not forgetting modern diesel variable vane turbo technology and sooting up issues causing overboost codes. Apparently Mr Muscle is a good cure (carefully applied).

Paul

variable vane also effects the 1.9

Only PD vRS and Scout 4x4 models have the DPF.

Mine, for example, does not have one.

I thought the later model 2.0 PD140 also has a dpf?

I didnt know it was just the scout and vRS. Thanks for the info.

BKD engine does not have a DPF.

And just to shed some light on the topic, this morning my trusted BKD engine tipped over the 500,000km mark !!

I thought the later model 2.0 PD140 also has a dpf?

I didnt know it was just the scout and vRS. Thanks for the info.

The 2.0 CR 140 in the facelift has one.

I don't believe any 2.0 PD has a DPF unless it is a Scout, 4x4 or vRS...

I don't believe any 2.0 PD has a DPF unless it is a Scout, 4x4 or vRS...

100% correct.

To put it into perspective, my turbo went at 115K on a BKD PD140. I wouldn't class that as a weak point, and the DMF around the same time.

Re the oil pump issues on 2L cars, Car Mechanics magazine had a feature about that very problem, can't remember if it was last month or the current issue.

They mentioned a VAG specialist who had run out of storage space for disabled taxis waiting on new pumps which were on back order. I think, from memory, the pumps were costing over £1000, perhaps that price included fitting.

The specialist was now fitting repaired, modified pumps as a much cheaper price.

Apparently the Trade are fully aware of the problems but continue to deal in these cars as they sell well!

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Re the oil pump issues on 2L cars, Car Mechanics magazine had a feature about that very problem, can't remember if it was last month or the current issue.

They mentioned a VAG specialist who had run out of storage space for disabled taxis waiting on new pumps which were on back order. I think, from memory, the pumps were costing over £1000, perhaps that price included fitting.

The specialist was now fitting repaired, modified pumps as a much cheaper price.

Apparently the Trade are fully aware of the problems but continue to deal in these cars as they sell well!

I think that was just a problem with the longitudinally mounted engines in the Superb 1 and Audi's, was not a problem with any 2.0 in the Octy's.

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