Downloading iOS 6 onto Kittens new iPhone 4 (my old one) and my iPad 3rd generation.

Anyonealso also downloading it??

Been running it since it was announced through the various beta's and have had the final version installed since it was released to the dev's on the 12, its pretty good from my experience with it, found that all the betas were very stable too.

That's not fair, you're a developer. :(

I'm not a dev myself by a friend is and i test his apps for him, so my phones on his allow list for when they were testing ios6

The developer thing is gettin tightened up though.

Anyway currently downloading it my self......... 3hrs to go. lol.

Mine took about 20 mins to download, then you have the 'extraction, installation, and reseting your device. All in all took about 45 mins.

Not that impressed with Siri though. :(

just started mine

Downloaded, installed and all working on my iPhone 4 16GB. Did mine using software update on the phone itself, took about 50 mins from start to finish. No need to backup, when finished all was as it was before except its on ios6.

Yup dont see the difference myself lol

The maps app is not too bad in the UK, since it uses Tomtom mapping and they have the whole of europe pretty much covered, however in the US they are fuming because the Tomtom maps are not complete.

Same as Manny, took about 50 mins start to finish, all done on the phone

Has anyone managed to get the 'Passbook' to work yet... or know how to? :think: :S

Not much different imo, was expecting to see 'Siri' on the 4 tho

Same as Manny, took about 50 mins start to finish, all done on the phone

Has anyone managed to get the 'Passbook' to work yet... or know how to? :think: :S

Ah looks like you have to do it on the phone via passsource.com

Siri is still not going to be available for devices that previously didnt have it. Except the New iPad.

This article was on gizmodo....

Sounds as if the US is not alone.

What All the iPhone 5 Reviewers Missed: Apple Maps Just Plain Sucks

19th Sep 2012 | 11:00

It's iPhone 5 review day, but it's also iOS 6 day. Almost every iPhone and iPad owner on the planet will practically DDoS Apple's servers trying to download the free iOS update later today. Now, there's a lot to like in iOS 6, but Apple Maps definitely isn't one of them, which most early iPhone 5 and iOS 6 reviews seem to have glossed over. It's rubbish, unfortunately, and here's why.

OK, so the first thing you notice about Apple Maps is that the map tiles themselves look different. Gone are Google's now-familiar colours and display, replaced with something that looks a lot like the Bing maps of old, just based on TomTom's map data. The map tiles are fine; I have no issues with them at all. They're fast to render, show the roads fine, and even the satellite view works as expected. But it's the small but incredibly important things that are just plain missing, and it's a massive issue.

I don't know about you, but I use maps when I'm lost or need to know how to get to somewhere. Yes I've used Google Maps in the past to spy on a friend's new house, check out an area and see if my car's been snapped from miles above the planet, but mostly it's to find where to go.

To that end, this is where Apple Maps falls flat on its face. For large parts of the UK, it just doesn't feature the public transport you need. Now, I'm not talking about public transport routing -- for that kind of thing I have dedicated apps that do it better -- I'm talking about actually showing train stations, tube stations, bus stops, and things like that on the map; kind of important if you don't know where the hell you're going.

The really strange thing is, some areas have some train and tube stations marked, but not others. For instance, in the famous Wimbledon, the Croydon tramlink stations are marked, for the most part, but Wimbledon mainline and tube station is totally missing, even through the tramlink goes through the main station, and even the rail lines themselves converge on the spot where the station should be on the map (see below). In other areas of London, some tube stations are marked, but others aren’t, and it's not like the tube stations are new. It's really quite strange, in fact, because why some are marked, as they should be, and some are missing assumed dead, I have no idea. Incomplete data makes for an incredibly frustrating and flat-out unhelpful experience.

It's not just public transport that Apple Maps totally fails on; it can't find businesses or places either. Yelp has apparently provided its database to Apple, but compared to Google Maps it's just poor. Searching for my local Center Parcs in Longleat, which is something rather big and bloody well should be in Apple's business database, Apple Maps protested that it, frankly, didn't exist. Combining missing places with incorrect listings, like Birmingham's Bullring being spelt "Bull Ring," it makes it really hard to find what you're looking for. Oh yeah, and Apple didn't bother to correct "Duncaster" either before launch (as you can see up top), which goes to show just how much it cares about the UK.

All of these features are, of course, available and working correctly on Google Maps, but interestingly Nokia Maps on a Windows Phone couldn't find Center Parcs either, which just goes to show that in the mapping battle, Google Maps is currently king.

Apple Maps isn't all bad -- its 3D buildings are pretty cool, and it looks nice, for a mapping app, but it's just not helpful. A mapping app is meant to help you out when you're in a pinch, not be dumb but pretty. I really hope this is a work in progress, for Apple, that'll quickly get updated on the backend to add these kinds of things, but I have a feeling the UK just isn't a priority for Apple. Who wants to bet that Apple Maps works perfectly fine in the US, with all the info you'd need? At least, that's the impression all the early reviews of the iPhone 5 and iOS 6 give.

I can only hope that Google releases a standalone Google Maps app for the iPhone pronto, because for the time being, I've resorted to using Google Maps in mobile Safari, and while it works, it's, well, painfully slow. Is it worth holding back on the upgrade for? If you use Maps a lot, I'd say yes. Help us out here Google, get your skates on and force Apple to let a dedicated Google Maps app through the App Store approval process, so we can all update without losing out big time.

:groan: not another OS update. This is getting as bad as android.

I think I'm going to hold off for the moment. Google maps and more specifically Streetview is very useful to me at the moment so I'm going to wait a bit and hope that google release an app.

so, techy bods.

is iOS 6 worth installing on ipad 2 and iPhone 3GS ??

Apple Maps definitely not up to par with the old Google Maps. +1 for hoping Google release a standalone Maps ASAP.

Apple Fail

why would google release an app (for free) that allows apple users to carry on using their tech (I for one was disappointed not to get turn by turn voice guidance with google maps on the Iphone). The reason apple went with TomTom was because of issues between them and google. Google would like to see everyone using Android.

I'm certain Google will release a Maps app for iOS. After the exact amount of time its takes for everyone who bought an Iphone 5 or updated to iOS6 to use Apple Maps and decide that Apple have completely failed their customers by providing an unfinished product. That way Google swoop in to save the day and Apple become the bad guys.

Brand loyalty destroyed in one throw.

Well hows this for a spectacular fail :-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19659736

so, techy bods.

is iOS 6 worth installing on ipad 2 and iPhone 3GS ??

Isnt iOS6 for the Iphone, & not pad

What happens if you save the iOSMaps.ipa file from a pre iOS 6 release and just drop it into iTunes to sync with your device? Do you still get Google Maps?

I know shifting .ipa files (the apps on your iOS device) has let me restore previous versions of things developers have over tweaked (e.g. Twitter V5) in the past.

Upon reading the title I THOUGHT I was going to read about an STD..........

Well, I suppose in a way I have

Isnt iOS6 for the Iphone, & not pad

iOS6 is available for both. Some features are unavailable to older devices though (iPod, iPad and iPhone)