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I have bought an wireless IP camera and I am trying to set it up so I can use it via the web which it tells you on the box it can. I have asked questions in another thread but I need to progress it on a bit.

My setup consist of a Netgear DG824M ADSL wireless mode/hub with built in firewall.

Linksys WVC54G wireless IP camera with built in web server.

I have setup port forwarding so I can forward anything that comes in on port 1024 to the camera. I have checked that the port is open via this website https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 and it does seem that port 1024 is now open. I have set it up so it forwards to the IP of the camera. Now I can login to the camera via the internal address but when I get someone external to type in the address of my modem for example 212.133.13.56:1024 (I take it this is the correct way to attach to the camera if this is the port it is on) which has been given to me by my ISP and this is a static one I get page not displayed.

Now there are 2 things I want to check.

1. If the port forwarding is actually working, so for this I could setup say an FTP server behind the firewall on one of my spare PC's and then open up the FTP port, I take it this should give me 100% proof port forwarding is working ???? Any other way I can check the request is being forwarded ?

2. That the camera is actually running and accepting inputs, but if I can login on my local Lan then that this is working ??

Anyone have any other ideas before I send the unit back for a full refund which I don't want to do as it is a good unit.

Thanks Ivan

Does the camera also require port 80 to be forwarded? And, do the ports need to be open outbound as well? :)

Chris

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Does the camera also require port 80 to be forwarded? And' date=' do the ports need to be open outbound as well? :)

Chris[/quote']

Chris I am not 100% on port 80 (HTTP) as when I spoke to Linksys they didn't mention it and nor does the documentation mentio this either. I have opened up the port 1024 both ways as per tech support for netgear advised.

Thing is Linksys say it's the router, netgear say it's the camera, it's catch 22. :thumbdwn:

it should work, does it work ok internally. You can put your external IP into IE and you will go out onto the net and back again. You could also try using telnet to see if connection is getting through, start > run > telnet ip.adress portnum . you should get a response if you hit return a few times, even if its gobbledygook.

Not sure on this but don't IP cameras use UPnP to get round the firewall issues?

If so you won't need to play around with port forwarding if yourrouter has UPnP enabled.

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Mannyo the DG824M I have been informed does not support oop back, so you can't go out then back in again. I have tried to telnet the camera but nothing.

Adrian yes this does support UPnP and it is swithed on both on the camera and Router.

Anyone fancy giving me a hand tonigh to get this working ? I can contact you via MSN and we can try it ?

Ivan

Mannyo the DG824M I have been informed does not support oop back' date=' so you can't go out then back in again. I have tried to telnet the camera but nothing.

Adrian yes this does support UPnP and it is swithed on both on the camera and Router.

Anyone fancy giving me a hand tonigh to get this working ? I can contact you via MSN and we can try it ?

Ivan[/quote']

Ivan,

if you give me a couple of weeks I'd be in a better position to help....IP Camera testing a work. ;)

Other than that I'm non the wiser unfortuantely. :o

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Ivan' date='

if you give me a couple of weeks I'd be in a better position to help....IP Camera testing a work. ;)

Other than that I'm non the wiser unfortuantely. :o[/quote']

Well fancy a quick go tonight ?

All I need you to do is connect to the camera while I mess about with it. :thumbup:

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If I'm on I'll try, or give you a remote desktop on my machine to try etc... ;)

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If I'm on I'll try, or give you a remote desktop on my machine to try etc... ;)

Cheers bud, will bell you are contact you on MSN.

Thanks

Ivan,

Couple of random thoughts, ideas....

1) Port-forwarding... You've setup a service on the router for port 1024, and added a rule on the firewall so it's always available, and forwarded to the camera's IP?

2) Does the camera have a fixed IP? Or have you set the router's DHCP to *always* give it the same IP address?

3) Is there any type of control panel/admin on the camera to set up who can view images on the camera?

4) Does your ISP give dynamic or static IPs? If it's dynamic you might want to use something like dyndns.org with the router to have a fixed hostname to give people...

I have read somewhere that with port forwarding, you can't check it yourself from within the network - someone has to do it externally...

For what it's worth, I have port-forwarding working fine on my netgear router...

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Ivan' date='

Couple of random thoughts, ideas....

1) Port-forwarding... You've setup a service on the router for port 1024, and added a rule on the firewall so it's always available, and forwarded to the camera's IP?

[b']Yes I have.[/b]

2) Does the camera have a fixed IP? Or have you set the router's DHCP to *always* give it the same IP address?

Fixed.

3) Is there any type of control panel/admin on the camera to set up who can view images on the camera?

Yes and the port on the menu is 1024, and UPnP is on.

4) Does your ISP give dynamic or static IPs? If it's dynamic you might want to use something like dyndns.org with the router to have a fixed hostname to give people...

Same ISP as you which is Plusnet and it is fixed.

I have read somewhere that with port forwarding, you can't check it yourself from within the network - someone has to do it externally...

Yes with my router you can't do that so that why I need someone to check it.

For what it's worth, I have port-forwarding working fine on my netgear router...

:)

I am going to give it one last go tonight but I suspect it will be going back to the shop.

Steve what model of Netgear router do you have ?

Also I turned on remote mamangement and netgear were able to remote manage the router so I am sure port forwarding is working.

The last thing to do is put the camera in the DMZ and remove all the other rules to see if this works.

Steve to use a certain port in internet explorer you type in for example 122.24.46.122:1024 is that correct ?

Ivan

I've got the DG824M... There's info here on setting up port forwarding, but I suspect you've seen it before :D

Did you set port 1024 in the setup? I'd be tempted to try changing it to 80 to see if it works...

I should be online as well tonight (SWMBO going out :D) after 8:30ish, so can lend a hand as well - MSN is doolsrhotmail.com :)

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I've got the DG824M... There's info here on setting up port forwarding' date=' but I suspect you've seen it before :D

Did you set port 1024 in the setup? I'd be tempted to try changing it to 80 to see if it works...

I should be online as well tonight (SWMBO going out :D) after 8:30ish, so can lend a hand as well - MSN is doolsrhotmail.com :)[/quote']

Well fancy that a man with taste on his ISP and hardward he uses :D

Cool be on around 8:30 ish as well.

I did setup port 1024 in the setup on both the camera and the router, spoke to linksys and port 80 is not needed but I might try it anyway.

Cheers

port 1024 seems like an odd port to use, I'm sure that you need to also forward port 80 to the camera.

If you open up a webpage to the camera internally and then run netstat this should show which ports are being used to connect to the camera. Any extra ports showing?

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port 1024 seems like an odd port to use' date=' I'm sure that you need to also forward port 80 to the camera.

If you open up a webpage to the camera internally and then run netstat this should show which ports are being used to connect to the camera. Any extra ports showing?[/quote']

Boyced good thinking batman, will try this tonigh. Yer 1024 is the start of the TCPIP ports aparently taht you can use without issues. I will also try port 80 as well tonight because if the camera has it's own webserver surely that would be connecting on HTTP (port 80).

Can't see any info on port 1024 being reserved for other services, although I'd have stuck with 80 or even 8080 for it just to be safe...

Well fancy a quick go tonight ?

All I need you to do is connect to the camera while I mess about with it. :thumbup:

Ivan,

don't think I will be able to help out......evening time on Briskoda are very limited now. :(

Sorry.

Q. What do you have to type to connect to it internally? Do you have to put 1024 on the end of your URL in the browser?

If not, it's using 80.

Also available on MSN evenings if you want (another) hand.

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Q. What do you have to type to connect to it internally? Do you have to put 1024 on the end of your URL in the browser?

If not' date=' it's using 80.

Also available on MSN evenings if you want (another) hand.[/quote']

I believe the ip then :1024 so http://120.56.42.24:1024

Yes good point about port 80, OK cheers for the offers of help. Will also try the Netstat Boyced mentioned as there maybe more than one port it's connecting on.

If you get it working I wouldn't mind seeing what the picture is like, as I'm thinking of getting this cam...

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If you get it working I wouldn't mind seeing what the picture is like, as I'm thinking of getting this cam...

Yep no worries boyced ONCE I get it working I will PM you the IP address.... :thumbup:

The camera's user guide shows you connecting to the camera's web server without specifying any port in the URL, therefore I suspect it is using port 80 as standard. I think probably what they mean by forwarding port 1024 is to forward 1024 on your router to 80 on the camera. Maybe this is what you've done, maybe not.... then you would connect to http://a.b.c.d:1024 where a.b.c.d is your router address, and that would be forwarded to the standard http port 80 at the camera.

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The camera's user guide shows you connecting to the camera's web server without specifying any port in the URL, therefore I suspect it is using port 80 as standard. I think probably what they mean by forwarding port 1024 is to forward 1024 on your router to 80 on the camera. Maybe this is what you've done, maybe not.... then you would connect to http://a.b.c.d:1024[/url'] where a.b.c.d is your router address, and that would be forwarded to the standard http port 80 at the camera.

:thumbup: will check it out..

forwarding port 1024 on your router to port 80 on the camera is only for security I would guess,

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