I'm already to order a Yeti anytime now but can't quite figure out exactly what gearbox or spec is right. Through various online vendors I can get the above two trim levels for similar . I like the idea of DSG for my 10 mile commute in traffic, but for similar money Elegance in 6 speed brings a lot of kit. Also, if I go for SE Plus i'll need to pay extra for ESP (£485?) which will then bring it to more than the Elegance.

So, is Elegance spec with Xenons, leather and everything a better purchase than a DSG SE plus? I can't get my head around the fact that I will be paying the same, if not more for my chosen spec AND be missing out on the Elegnace goodies.

However the odd DSG behaviours are putting me off, particularly the power drop when excelerating from junctions etc.

I'm torn!

DSG models come with ESP as standard no matter what trim level. Both nice specs and each has features the othere does not.

With stop start traffic, then maybe the DSG would be the more practical choice.

TP

I live in a rural area and the xenon lights are really worth having. I also like the folding wing mirrors having lost several from parked cars. I have had paddle gear shifts on previous cars and like them, but wouldn't swop them for the xenons.

I'll second that, I wouldn't be without the xenons.

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I live in a rural area and the xenon lights are really worth having. I also like the folding wing mirrors having lost several from parked cars. I have had paddle gear shifts on previous cars and like them, but wouldn't swop them for the xenons.

You can retro fit a flappy paddle MFSW.

Really? Have you ever tried that Mike?

I didn't realise that DSG came with ESP as standard - thanks for that

Really? Have you ever tried that Mike?

No.....should I?

Never driven a 1.2 Yeti so this is speculation on my part but is worth considering:

It isn't just in traffic that the DSG comes into its own. Smallish engine and 6 speed box in a large car with not so brilliant aerodynamics means that to keep it buzzing you will need lots of gear changing on motorways and A road cruising for lane changes and maintaining speed on the hills. Especially so when 4 up with luggage.

The DSG will take away the hassle of endless gear changes. You won't even notice that it just dropped 2 gears as you accelerated into that gap in the flow in lane 3!

Do you use cruise control? If you are on a rolling A road on the cruise at 50mph and hit a hill then as soon as you change down in a manual, cruise is disengaged. DSG swaps down the box to maintain speed uphill and to increase engine braking going down hill - all on the cruise control.

And another unexpected DSG benefit!

Don't know if this applies to Yeti DSG but on my Octavia, only having 2 pedals gives more options for comfortable placing of the left leg/foot to allow variation on long trips.

Forget the Elegance trinkets - DSG is the best toy on the planet

Asx you may have guessed - I am a DSG convert - I love it!! :love: :love:

Personally id sway towards the Elegance spec BUT surely the decision should be based around which transmission you want - thats what you need to decide. The leather seats are nice I guess but the Xenon lights are far superior to the halogen ones fitted to non Elegance Yeti's - the best bit of standard Elegance kit imo. If you are bothered about resale value then take a look at the predicted future values of an SE+ compared to an Elegance spec car also.

Just to add my 2 pence worth here and follow on a bit from FocusZetecs post regarding residuals.

Out of interest from myself I put both cars through the finance system on PCP to gauge a Guaranteed Future Value and come up with the following.

Elegance 1.2 TSI Manual

£19,040

G.F.V - £7,267.50

SE Plus DSG

£18,955

G.F.V - £7,208.10

As you can see, both cars are at full price based on 10k per year. The residuals are pretty much the same for each car. Admittedly this is only based on the finance system so could well vary in the future but as mentioned above it was out of curiosity from myself as well.

Hope it helps and whichever Yeti you get you won't be disappointed

Lee

Thanks again all. I like Xenons having had them in previous cars, but tbh the standard lamps can be vastly improved with some better (H7?) bulbs. I've changed the ones in my Octavia to street legal Ring Xenon max bulbs and for £20 the difference is remarkable. Not as good as xenon but tbh 90% as good.

If my fears can be eased about the DSG box making it difficult to make quick getaways from junctions tghen I think I will order one.

Lee (Preston_Motors), out of interest do you know what the approx delivery time is for a 1.2 SE plus with DSG and Pan roof?

Thanks again all. I like Xenons having had them in previous cars, but tbh the standard lamps can be vastly improved with some better (H7?) bulbs. I've changed the ones in my Octavia to street legal Ring Xenon max bulbs and for £20 the difference is remarkable. Not as good as xenon but tbh 90% as good.

If my fears can be eased about the DSG box making it difficult to make quick getaways from junctions tghen I think I will order one.

Lee (Preston_Motors), out of interest do you know what the approx delivery time is for a 1.2 SE plus with DSG and Pan roof?

Personally I have to massively disagree re the upgraded lamps - ive always used them on my cars that dont have Xenons and there is still (pun not intended) a night and day difference between these bulbs and a factory Xenon setup - even ignoring the output and pattern advantages, the bending corner function is superb on darker roads.

You mention the panny roof also - thats my number one favouite option and overall the nicest bit of the car imo. Good luck with getting a deal finalised.

Cornering lights is a different thing entirely. Not really an issue as i live in a well lit urban area, would be more of a nice to have. Light output is my main concern, and personally, uprated bulbs solve that problem for me.

Panny roof is awesome, makes a great family vehicle even better if you ask me. Well worth the money. Originally I was looking at your spec of vehicle, but have aslo decided to keep my VRS for now, so no 1.8 TSI 4x4 monster for me!

weyland - lead times at the moment are around 12 - 16 weeks BUT this would all depend on your dealers (black hole) quota!

Some do come through quicker it can be hit and miss though.

I am fortunate to have a 1.2 Elegance with DSG but if forced to give up the Elegance 'Toys' or the DSG box then without hesitation I would give up the Toys and keep the DSG. This is my second Skoda with DSG box and I really think that the "hesitation" problems are overstated, yes you can get into a situation where there is a minor hesitation but after driving the car for a brief time you quickly get used to it and almost unconsciously learn to drive around it. I certainly have never had a problem entering a roundabout or pulling into fast moving traffic.

The 1.2 + DSG is a great combination and with its 7 gears it is imperceptibly in the right gear all the time, the manual has 6 gears and will need multiple manual gear changes - clutch in, move gear lever, clutch out - to achieve the same silky progress.

...but after driving the car for a brief time you quickly get used to it and almost unconsciously learn to drive around it. I certainly have never had a problem entering a roundabout or pulling into fast moving traffic.

Isn't that the critical point? Every single time you change cars (other than a direct like for like swap) your new car will have different driving characteristics from the previous one and there is at least a small process of adaptation. The right question is not 'is there a difference' (eg between manual and DSG) but is there any material difference that you can't quickly adapt to and master? In fact of my recent sequence of cars, every one has felt a little strange on initial drives, but every one has, after a few weeks adaptation, convinced me that they were better than the one before.

I would have thought with DSG that after 2-3 weeks when you've got used to it and it's got used to you (aren't they supposed to adapt steadily to your driving style?) then you'd hardly ever get caught out by the DSG. I don't know, but maybe DSG owners in need of a swift getaway just flick the DSG into Sport mode temporarily - doesn't that help? (My CR170 Yeti is manual of course, but my wife runs a 1.4TSi Golf DSG which seems to cope with busy roundabouts perfectly well.)

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My wife drove our brand new diesel DSG this morning. She's not an auto convertee and likes the manual Mini Cooper she has.

I was sitting in the passenger seat and she drove the car flawlessly and the DSG did exactly what it says on the tin.

If its good enough for my wife.... its good. Believe me!!

I had a Leon DSG, with the 2.0Tfsi. From first test drive and throughout I found it intuitive and effective and with something around 200bhp I found the sport setting and manual override more or less redundant. The manual override simply exposed my relative slowness of reactions and the sport setting while producing brisker performance was seldom useful. I understand the anxieties of those who would prefer the long standing reputation of torque converter set ups and on the 3 and 4 litre sixes and eights I have owned I think they are fine-with the big and slow revving engines typical in the US and in some Australian cars they are almost certainly ideal.

I've not tried the 1.2 dsg but would have thought a seven speeder which can react faster than anyone less adept than a top line racer would be an ideal application of intelligent precision engineering.

Isn't that the critical point? Every single time you change cars (other than a direct like for like swap) your new car will have different driving characteristics from the previous one and there is at least a small process of adaptation. The right question is not 'is there a difference' (eg between manual and DSG) but is there any material difference that you can't quickly adapt to and master? In fact of my recent sequence of cars, every one has felt a little strange on initial drives, but every one has, after a few weeks adaptation, convinced me that they were better than the one before.

I would have thought with DSG that after 2-3 weeks when you've got used to it and it's got used to you (aren't they supposed to adapt steadily to your driving style?) then you'd hardly ever get caught out by the DSG. I don't know, but maybe DSG owners in need of a swift getaway just flick the DSG into Sport mode temporarily - doesn't that help? (My CR170 Yeti is manual of course, but my wife runs a 1.4TSi Golf DSG which seems to cope with busy roundabouts perfectly well.)

Exactly my point - obviously badly put! The DSG box is excellent and I (nor my wife) have ever had any problems at all with it. I just meant that everything takes getting used to in a new car.

Hey,

I've not read the complete thread here but thought I'd answer your initial question.

Given the choice, Elegance, the extras are well well well worth it.

I have an SE with DSG and a few other extras as it was an ex cycle race car with extremely low miles. I miss my auto extras though.

The DSG however is nothing short of sublime!

Thanks all, I think on balance I will be going for the DSG. It has the equipment levels that I want and I think the DSG is going to be great for commuter and city centre driving. I've driven a 1.2 manual, but can't find a DSG so may have to take a leap of faith with that. I'm not ordering until next month so i've got a few weeks to track down a good deal (and possibly a DSG to drive).

Thanks all, I think on balance I will be going for the DSG. It has the equipment levels that I want and I think the DSG is going to be great for commuter and city centre driving. I've driven a 1.2 manual, but can't find a DSG so may have to take a leap of faith with that. I'm not ordering until next month so i've got a few weeks to track down a good deal (and possibly a DSG to drive).

If your looking for a good deal try Lee at Preston Motors who posted earlier.

TP

I've not tried the 1.2 dsg but would have thought a seven speeder which can react faster than anyone less adept than a top line racer would be an ideal application of intelligent precision engineering.

I don't even think a top line racer can change gear in something like 8ms :lol:

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Never driven a 1.2 Yeti so this is speculation on my part but is worth considering:

It isn't just in traffic that the DSG comes into its own. Smallish engine and 6 speed box in a large car with not so brilliant aerodynamics means that to keep it buzzing you will need lots of gear changing on motorways and A road cruising for lane changes and maintaining speed on the hills. Especially so when 4 up with luggage.

The DSG will take away the hassle of endless gear changes. You won't even notice that it just dropped 2 gears as you accelerated into that gap in the flow in lane 3!

Do you use cruise control? If you are on a rolling A road on the cruise at 50mph and hit a hill then as soon as you change down in a manual, cruise is disengaged. DSG swaps down the box to maintain speed uphill and to increase engine braking going down hill - all on the cruise control.

And another unexpected DSG benefit!

Don't know if this applies to Yeti DSG but on my Octavia, only having 2 pedals gives more options for comfortable placing of the left leg/foot to allow variation on long trips.

Forget the Elegance trinkets - DSG is the best toy on the planet

Asx you may have guessed - I am a DSG convert - I love it!! :love: :love:

This reply above by eccleshill sums it up the best. Totally agree with this. The DSG will make your life far easier than the Elegance toys will (nice as they are).