Lunchtime today in bright daylight. Had an 11 reg Octavia Elegance behind me with DRLs on. When he turned right I'm sure that the left DRL went off leaving just the right one lit. Definitely the DRLs not the fogs and he had no other lights on.

Is this normal? Or was I seeing things :wonder: ?

I have re-coded my drl's to dim when indicating. Maybe this is what you saw but looked opposite when looking in your mirror?

All over the place now,

Grand Puntos, VW's, Skodas etc.

You are sitting at a junction and these things are driving in broad daylight like they are DRL's, on,

or can look like sidelights on lights with some cars.

they then turn or enter a roundabout with one light then the other going out.

**Mostly the type that never indicate with indicators.**

They must be DRL's , because why do they drive with 'Cornering Fogs' on or enabled.

(& there is no rear fog on anyway!!!!)

I call them 'T-W-A-T Lights'. they let you see these T-W_A_T-S.

At least you notice them and the fact the car is turning one way or another.

The Other 'T_W_A_T lights are those used by those that like to 'Activate' Cornering Fogs, to come on when they reverse.

No thought that you see them at the side of the road about to reverse in their drive etc, then they select Reverse and Shine Cornering Fogs at you, even tho its not Foggy, just a normal night time street with street lights.

Breath, RANT over.

One thing that surprises me is.

Other than Indicators or high level Brake Lights or Numberplate lights,

Lights should be fitted matching pairs for UK 'Construction & Use.'

Well surely they are supposed to 'Work' as a Matched Pair,

not go 'On & Off much like a loose or bad connection or faulty bulb does.

T-W-A-T lights,

need to see what others that love them say.

george

So what exactly is your point George?

Other than to insult anyone with DRL's, cornering foglights or a single rear foglight?

Lunchtime today in bright daylight. Had an 11 reg Octavia Elegance behind me with DRLs on. When he turned right I'm sure that the left DRL went off leaving just the right one lit. Definitely the DRLs not the fogs and he had no other lights on.

Sounds like an electrical glitch or someone who has been messing around with VCDS without knowing what they are doing!

silver1011,

Sorry i forgot Single rear Fog lights were also OK.

Have you not seen cars with these lights as standard straight from the dealership.?

I see many everyday were i stay and around this and other areas, 62 Plate.

Mostly Fiats here, but a fair few Skoda & VW's

T-W_A_T, lights = 'This Way And That'.

(But never use an orange indicator light to let other road users know your intention.)

george

So what exactly is your point George?

Other than to insult anyone with DRL's, cornering foglights or a single rear foglight?

Envy. ;)

(and a lack of understanding the difference between a DRL and a cornering light too from what's been written) :)

That fact the George has noticed cars with DRLs means that they are doing their job perfectly.

Envy. Of what?? Lights that go on & off!

I have been to Spec Savers.

'Thine eyes are blind but i can see i have brought my specs with me.'

& i am rather observant to what goes on around me, compared to some, it would seem.

I see a moving vehicle with or without lights on or with DRL's on.

(Always have, even seen ones hit me, that never spotted me with lights on.)

I see daily cars arriving at junctions and roundabouts and one DRL going out. I am sitting and see the left one go out say.

(If they are cornering Fogs, as i ask, why are they running broad daylight with these on,

or slight poor light, with no other lights on??.)

That means the person around the Junction or roundabout sees a car with no DRL on as it goes round the circle.

Sometimes this is happening just about lighting up time and the driver is driving on DRL's then unlit to some road users from some directions.

george

For RainbowFire.

If the location of the lights installed by the Manufacturer, (say low down) or the light housing is the same,

ie a MK2 vRS, & the only difference is the brightness of the said light.

How does someone sitting at a Junction seeing a car know, DRL's from Side lights or Cornering lights.??

Broad Daylight & just a VW Golf or Polo Driving towards you, no Indicators used. then one white light goes out.

'Envy', i think not!!

That is a standard 'Sidelight' (or Parking light if only one on and parked,) in the picture,

Sidelight & Dipped beam & Sidelight only.

not DRL's or Fogs, or Driving lights, who other than a Skoda or vRS owner would know?

I have re-coded my drl's to dim when indicating. Maybe this is what you saw but looked opposite when looking in your mirror?

No - definitely nearside light went out while off side stayed bright. Then as he followed me round and straightened up both on at full brightness. (Then I hit the lamp-post :rofl: ) Just like cornering fogs but on the DRLs.

@ SK4GW

Take a few of these and relax lad.

Living in a rural area I find the cornering fogs useful for lighting up narrow dark side roads or driveways, one downside seems to be that VAG decided that when you select reverse with cornering fogs enabled that both front fog lights should be on. Not quite sure about the logic on that one - but that seems to be by design.

George - take a chill pill.

Paul

George, my dear chap.

Calm down, get a cup of tea or a wee dram and sit with your feet up for a while.

Think of your blood pressure - they are just lights and they aren't out to get you. They are required fitment on all post 2012 homologised vehicles and have been added to pre 2012 vehicles by many manufacturers. The drivers that you denigrate have no say in the matter - direct your rants at politicians in the EU who passed this crazy law not the poor sods who have them whether they want them or not. They are here to stay and they won't go away so best learn to live with them.

Now - back on topic...

George, whilst I love the pictures of those toy Fabias, you're a little lost, this is the Octavia Forum :|

Either way up, there is a distinction in the light configuration when turning either left or right. If you see symmetry, the car isn't turning.

Cornering lights will only come on below 40kph(the ECU will not allow above this speed) and when the headlights are on, at which point they are activated by either the indicators or turning the steering wheel beyond 45 degrees. No Octavia, or toy Fabia, will have LEDs as front foglights, so they are easily distinguished.

The fact that you see a car with either DRLs or sidelights on is irrelevant. The fact is you've seen the car. Even you cannot argue that seeing the car is a bad thing.

Lights should be fitted matching pairs for UK 'Construction & Use.'

Well surely they are supposed to 'Work' as a Matched Pair,

not go 'On & Off much like a loose or bad connection or faulty bulb does.

Have you not seen cars with these lights as standard straight from the dealership.?

Best you scurry off and check the law on these things George. It's kinda moved on a bit.

(Hint: you might want to check where ECE over-rides UK law, hence OEM-HIDs being legal in this country, even though they don't conform to a BS)

No - definitely nearside light went out while off side stayed bright. Then as he followed me round and straightened up both on at full brightness. (Then I hit the lamp-post :rofl: ) Just like cornering fogs but on the DRLs.

IIRC indicators over-ride the steering-wheel position, so you can have some "unusual" effects. e,g, turning at a roundabout, you'd indicate right, but first turn the wheel left.....the right cornering light will illuminate and stay lit. It will cancel when you turn the wheel to the left to exit the roundabout.

The DRL usually dims on the side that the indicator has been activated on, at all speeds.

Using DRLs as cornering lights is fairly redundant as DRLs don't emit sufficient, directed light to be of any use as cornering lights.

Effectively as of February 2012 DRLs and sidelights perform the function of front markers and help distinguish between cars that are on the move and those who are parked up with engine off. Probably so that SRM (School Run Mum) can tell the difference.

...one downside seems to be that VAG decided that when you select reverse with cornering fogs enabled that both front fog lights should be on. Not quite sure about the logic on that one - but that seems to be by design.

George - take a chill pill.

Paul

That is because as you steer in reverse the front end moves sideways - having the fogs on illuminates the kerbs etc so you can see it is clear. As the car doesn't know which way you are turning it puts 'em both on.

Living in a rural area I find the cornering fogs useful for lighting up narrow dark side roads or driveways, one downside seems to be that VAG decided that when you select reverse with cornering fogs enabled that both front fog lights should be on. Not quite sure about the logic on that one - but that seems to be by design.

From what I recall, the idea is so that the area that the front of the car is moving into is illuminated, which, if people such as George believe is a bad thing (and there'll be the usual "I've been driving for 50 years and not hit anything" protestations) then you'd have to wonder why they bother using their lights at all. I think the "both on" is to stop the flip flop effect as some people see-saw the wheel whilst reversing. This would only serve to confuse poor George even more :|

The Other 'T_W_A_T lights are those used by those that like to 'Activate' Cornering Fogs, to come on when they reverse.

No thought that you see them at the side of the road about to reverse in their drive etc, then they select Reverse and Shine Cornering Fogs at you, even tho its not Foggy, just a normal night time street with street lights.

My Superb has this type of T_W_A_T lights as standard, no activation required on my part

Living in a rural area I find the cornering fogs useful for lighting up narrow dark side roads or driveways, one downside seems to be that VAG decided that when you select reverse with cornering fogs enabled that both front fog lights should be on. Not quite sure about the logic on that one - but that seems to be by design.

George - take a chill pill.

IMO this kind of works, when I reverse onto my drive in the dark, the surrounding area is totally dark, but for some reason activating both front fogs does slightly increase the amount of light, perhaps it reflects off the white paintwork and aids the view in the side mirrors?? Don't know really.

Have you had a bad day George , your posts are normally logic and well reasoned.

So after all the EU reg stuff and ll the stuff about fogs and reversing.

Thats it then,

Ladies and others that drive with 2 white lights facing forward in Daylight come to turn left or right and you get a clue where they are going because the little white light in the opposite side of the vehicle from the turn goes out.

(you mostly notice that first, then that they are the type that never indicate,

or is RainbowFire saying there is Indication from orange indicators & we can not see it?)

Thats all that most drivers that do not read forums or car magazines or owners manuals need to know.

It is 2012 after all.

Getting bl00dy hard to tell cars with faulty lights from cars with up to date super dooper lights.

? Can i come back to this section uninvited?

even if RainbowFire would be in his element correcting me?

Do i need to own an Octavia 2

& only use examples of vehicles in general with the use of Octavia Pictures.

Chiil boys,

gone, tara. As you were.

george

PS Been driving for many decades and hit lots of things, always use lights in poor lighting and as hated by

some on here, use full lights on 2 wheels..

RainbowFire writing his own senario again.

So after all the EU reg stuff and ll the stuff about fogs and reversing.

Thats it then,

Yup pretty much. If you're not happy with the situation, you need to move outside the EU, although in some territories, the "laws" are just words written on paper.

(you mostly notice that first, then that they are the type that never indicate,

or is RainbowFire saying there is Indication from orange indicators & we can not see it?)

I cannot comment on your eyesight George, but if you pay attention, you'll see the indicator comes on when the DRL dims. :|

Thats all that most drivers that do not read forums or car magazines or owners manuals need to know.

It is 2012 after all.

It is indeed 2012, maybe it's about time people actually read the manual, there's all sorts of interesting things in there. Usually stops noob questions too.

? Can i come back to this section uninvited?

even if RainbowFire would be in his element correcting me?

Do i need to own an Octavia 2

& only use examples of vehicles in general with the use of Octavia Pictures.

No-one said or implied you have to have an Octavia II, but being an Octavia section, we do tend to stick to Octavia subjects and pictures. There's a whole other forum for pictures and tales of Fabias.

RainbowFire writing his own senario again.

Feel free to show everyone where I've done that George, I actively encourage you do make good on those words. :|

Ok,Understood. & to, must tell Noobs, use the search engines or RTFM.

is that the Royal 'We'.?

Are you this sections 'Correct Police' ,

Nothing here to see, use your own section type person??

george

PS, Sorry never see those indicators or the dimming lights on the Fiats or the VW's,

but must take your word for it.

PPS, just joking RainbowFire, must remember not to slag others choice of cars.

& you are a welcoming person.

Ok,Understood. & to, must tell Noobs, use the search engines or RTFM.

is that the Royal 'We'.?

Feel free to stop and look around at how often that comes up George. Again, an active encouragement to do so. Why would other members do the searching for you? :| You never know, doing it yourself could yield a whole wealth of hither-to "unknown to George" information.

As for the manual, I suggest that everyone reads the one pertaining to their chosen vehicle, there's all sorts of useful information in there. (Yes, I have read mine and I do know where it is.......it comes in handy from time to time.)

Are you this sections 'Correct Police' ,

Nothing here to see, use your own section type person??

I think, and I'm ready to be corrected on this by Brisky admin (i.e. those who know) that Briskoda is divided into sections whereby each section has a different overarching topic (e.g. Octavia II, Yeti, Citygo). This is to group discussions relating to a particular model of Skoda into their own place. This saves a lot of time an effort in wading through posts about other models, to find posts relating to your own. Posting some information about a (for example) Fabia into a (for example) Octavia forum serves no purpose other than to show that you failed to realise where you are in the first place.

Fabia owners are often present, and indeed active participants, in the Octavia forum, but rarely do they post pictures that are completely irrelevant. If, as an Octavia owner, I wish to see a picture of a Fabia, I use a search engine, or look in the Fabia section.

PS, Sorry never see those indicators or the dimming lights on the Fiats or the VW's,

but must take your word for it.

CD10

must remember not to slag others choice of cars.

Good advice George, I look forward to you taking it.

& you are a welcoming person.

.....only to those who feel they need to come and insult others, especially on a subject they know nothing about. :|

Still missing:

RainbowFire writing his own senario again.

Feel free to show everyone where I've done that George, I actively encourage you do make good on those words. :|

Hardly surprising that you cannot do that, especially given that you managed that yourself. :p :p

Simply refering to this threads and others were you will decide what some one will say,

or say that someone said something, that clearly is not what they wrote or said.

'Writing your own senario'.

eg.

'Driving for 50 years & never hit anything',

Then the likes of, 'Better scurry off'" *nasty type stuff that* IMHO

Previously, 'Tin Leg', 'Pleased to see you are well enough to jump to conclusions'. type comments

Paraphrasing there,

but you will know where you typed things, they are still in the threads.

I am not a 'Quote' or Paste person or smart icons etc.

just generally off the subject and personal. IMHO.

Directed at me or others personally.

My slags are general & not aimed as personal, usually,

till someone comes in with its like 'they know you, or your thoughts.

I will have my Rants as i please.

opening page, shows new posts, and people read them and reply as they please,

then sometimes look to see what actual section they just posted in.

Well some people do

.ie Me.

george

'Driving for 50 years & never hit anything',

Then the likes of, 'Better scurry off'" *nasty type stuff that* IMHO

Previously, 'Tin Leg', 'Pleased to see you are well enough to jump to conclusions'. type comments

Paraphrasing there,

but you will know where you typed things, they are still in the threads.

I am not a 'Quote' or Paste person or smart icons etc.

lol, you make me laugh George, you really are comical. Just feel free to quote random stuff from other threads. Not sure what you're trying to do there, I'll work on the premise that it's your usual attempt at some sort of insult there, and epically misses the mark, as usual.

Keep taking the tablets, keep dishing the insults and I'll be right there handing them back to you. :)

I think the original DRL question has been answered..........................

Cornering fogs = They're ridiculous.

DRL's = Every car should be made to have them, regardless of age.

Not quite, we haven't got to the bottom of why the DRL's were performing the role of cornering foglights rather than the foglights themselves.