DRL's and cornering fog lights are completely seperate.

If the OP saw the DRL being affected by the steering input / indicator then there are only three possibilities:

1) The OP was mistaken.

2) There is an electrical / wiring / controller fault with the car.

3) Someone has been into CANBUS using VCDS and has worked out how to select DRL's to perform the function of cornering lights and then got them to work so that you turn right and the left light illuminates!

it doesn't care which indicator is on. i.e. not based on the side with the indicator on.

Are you sure? Watch this video.

It clearly shows that turning on the indicator overides the direction of the steering wheel in determining which cornering light is illuminated...

What is kind of obvious is that they are not actually Fog Lights, because in real most would want proper Fog lights, ie staying on, & when on dipped beam.

they appear to be just Driving/Chav lights.

They are both fog lights and cornering lights. The same bulb / light unit performs the role of both functions.

If you turn on your fog lights the cornering lights won't work as they are already both turned on.

The video you posted of the Fiat Punto shows the owner turning on her fog lights (both lights in the lower bumper) and also shows her turning off her foglights (only one light is extinguised as the steering wheel was turned so the function of cornering light keeps one fog/cornering light illuminated).

Some cars have a seperate bulb mounted in the headlight that performs the role of the cornering light rahter than using the fog light (Renault Clio and the latest Ford Focus fitted with xenon headlights).

Edited 5 December, 201213 yr by silver1011

I have the cornering fog lights activated on my 2007 (57) pre-facelift Octavia vRS.

I don't notice them in town as it is already well lit normally.

Where I get the benefit is when navigating dark, slow, and winding country roads which makes up 50% of my daily commute.

At this time of year I drive to work in the dark and drive home in the dark.

I know the roads well but the additional light thrown out onto to the piece of road and over on the verge I am heading towards is useful.

More (legal) light at night is not a bad thing.

I have also done this journey in a Yeti courtesy car and the benefits were much better due to the higher mounted fog / cornering lights.

I don't really care if people think they are stupid, they improve visibility which makes my journey safer.

People thought rear fog lights were stupid when they became mandatory, those same people are now moaning about DRL's. They'll get used to them eventually and find something else to complain about, probably xenon headlights, LED headlights or automatic beam assist.

Edited 5 December, 201213 yr by silver1011

If you had read my post correctly, I have no problem with DRL's, it's cornering fogs in a well lit town or city, they just look plain stupid. I know I disabled mine on my yeti, got fed up with people telling me I had one light out, or driving in front of me, thinking I had flashed them?. And I did need VCDS to do it.only DLR' s can be enabled with Maxidot or wiper stalk ( at least the Yeti is this way).

I did read your post correctly and in that you didn't say cornering foglights look stupid you said "you have to resolve to looking like a prat when driving in town" which is clearly a judgement on the DRIVER not the LIGHTS hence my .

I think the location of the foglights on the Yeti is finally an admission that they are foglights in name only. The original idea of foglights is to get them low down so you are not looking through the glare of the lights reflected off the fog particularly at night. You use them alone without headlights so you can still be seen without the glare from your own headlights reducing your own vision.

And before the holier than thou light brigade tell me I'm a prat for using foglights without headlights or that it is illegal - why is the interlocking on the switch such that I cannot operate the fogs alone but I can operate them as soon as the sidelights are on?

Edited 5 December, 201213 yr by eccleshill

My bad. I stand corrected.

Missed yoursI said 2012 also!

OK,

today, i have seen the 2 Blue vRS estates. the new Personalised Plate one has on Dipped beams,

Icy & dull earlier on.

The 62 plate, probably a Blackline, came down the road with what looked like 2 DRL's on & went around the mini circle and went right.

no indicator, not even 3 flashes, DRL went out on the nearside as he went right.

Then a 11 plate Mercedes Estate, sun splitting the frozen pavement,

he was coming towards me with Sidelights or DRLs on, no idea what in the Headlight Cluster, & 2 Fog lights,

the Right Hand one went out as he turned left.

Then spotted 2 navy blue Puntos with the low down 2 lights on.

Look like non LED DRL's. not fogs, only one of these Puntos turned for me to see, no indicator used & the one DRL went out.

george

I have cornering fogs on my Vrs but they only activate when you turn the wheel, makes no difference if the indicators are on or not

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I think the location of the foglights on the Yeti is finally an admission that they are foglights in name only. The original idea of foglights is to get them low down so you are not looking through the glare of the lights reflected off the fog particularly at night. You use them alone without headlights so you can still be seen without the glare from your own headlights reducing your own vision.

And before the holier than thou light brigade tell me I'm a prat for using foglights without headlights or that it is illegal - why is the interlocking on the switch such that I cannot operate the fogs alone but I can operate them as soon as the sidelights are on?

Yes, finally there IS SOMEONE who knows how fog lights should be used. You are quite right they should only be used without headlamps for the very reason you state.

I have cornering fogs on my Vrs but they only activate when you turn the wheel, makes no difference if the indicators are on or not

Same on the Superb.

George: what colour was the Merc, it would appear that the problem is related to blue cars :lol:

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Yes, finally there IS SOMEONE who knows how fog lights should be used. You are quite right they should only be used without headlamps for the very reason you state.

Although this has nothing to do with the DRL / CL thread !!!!

Yes, finally there IS SOMEONE who knows how fog lights should be used. You are quite right they should only be used without headlamps for the very reason you state.

Definately, the glare from headlights into (proper) fog is immense.

At one point on the motorway tonight, there were 3 cars spread over lanes 1,2 and 3, all with fog lights and headlights on - a huge bank of 12 lights

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George: what colour was the Merc, it would appear that the problem is related to blue cars :lol:

L.O.L. My Blackline's blue, I'm not going up north just in case I annoy Peter Picanto!!!!!!!!!

Are you sure? Watch this video.

It clearly shows that turning on the indicator overides the direction of the steering wheel in determining which cornering light is illuminated...

i'm very very sure - the indicator does not trigger the cornering fogs.

as backed up by Gleemin & Coops....

I have cornering fogs on my Vrs but they only activate when you turn the wheel, makes no difference if the indicators are on or not

Same on the Superb.

i believe there are two version of vcds coding with regards to "cornering fogs":-

- one which is as u described, where the indicator is "god".

- the other which i described, and prefer, where the steering angle is "god".

The Merc Estate was blue.

Are people here now saying in real Fog you should only have on Sidelights & Fog lights.?

But no dipped beam.

(obviously the Sidelights to have the tail lights & Numberplate on & rear Fog/Fogs.)

That would be interesting as you proceed up a very Foggy road with your Sidelights & one Cornering Fog light going out as you changed lane or deviated.

See & be seen.

many like their DRL's in bright daytime even some with fogs on,

but are happy in the worst of visibility to have displayed to the front 2 sidelights

and at times, possibly a few seconds, only 1 fog light.

Or are they going back to non cornering at those times?

https://www.gov.uk/d...37/overview-226

george

You wouldn't be "one cornering light out"......the fog light switch over-rides the cornering function. So you would have both foglights on, with neither of them going out as you cornered, changed lane or deviated. (Would kinda be a useless function - turning lights off in the dark / inclement weather, don't you think?) :|

The cornering light and the foglight use the same bulb, but for their own functions. They are, in effect, multi-function lights. These have gained ECE approval and are road-legal throughout Europe and the United Kingdom (including Scotland).

Pay attention George. (or read the other posts)

.......niether do they both come on with hazard lights :| :|

The Merc Estate was blue.

Are people here now saying in real Fog you should only have on Sidelights & Fog lights.?

But no dipped beam.

(obviously the Sidelights to have the tail lights & Numberplate on & rear Fog/Fogs.)

That would be interesting as you proceed up a very Foggy road with your Sidelights & one Cornering Fog light going out as you changed lane or deviated.

See & be seen.

many like their DRL's in bright daytime even some with fogs on,

but are happy in the worst of visibility to have displayed to the front 2 sidelights

and at times, possibly a few seconds, only 1 fog light.

Or are they going back to non cornering at those times?

https://www.gov.uk/d...37/overview-226

george

Yes in real thick fog the convention is to drive with side lights only and fog lights, the fog lights should be low down to enable the light to shine under the fog thereby lighting up the road. Putting headlights on will only serve to increase glare as the light from dipped beam will merely reflect off the fog.

In this instance the fog lights would be on permanent and the t_w_a_t effect disabled automatically. On my Superb, the DRLs are also disabled/switched off when the sidelights/dipped beam are on.

I do see your side and yes the cornering effect of fogs is at times very daft.

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From Wiki:

Front fog lamps provide a wide, bar-shaped beam of light with a sharp cutoff at the top, and are generally aimed and mounted low .[10][11] They may produce white or selective yellow light, and are intended for use at low speed to increase the illumination directed towards the road surface and verges in conditions of poor visibility due to rain, fog, dust or snow. They are sometimes used in place of dipped-beam headlamps, reducing the glareback from fog or falling snow, although the legality varies by jurisdiction of using front fog lamps without low beam headlamps.

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'the convention is to drive with only sidelights & fogs lights.'

? Where and when did this 'convention begin',

thats just probably started by those that fitted brighter than standard dipped beams and then blind their selves.

It is luckily not a widely adhered to convention.

As in France and was a Fashion here for a few years, people used to have Yellow Plastic covers to put on the headlights in Fog, & had Yellow lense Fog lights that worked well.

thats back in the days that fog lights were for use in Fog & worked well.

not multi function bulbs, lenses.

The DRL's are off when the Sidelights or Headlights are on, simply because this is the Legal & EU Approval requirement.

As Tom Jones said, 'It is not unusual.'

george

Not all - some drls remain on with headlights - Ford, some Mercs, maybe even Octavia, although some do dim the drl

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Great and very amusing thread!

George - good on you for fronting up & sticking with your view!

FWIW, IMO, cornering fogs do look ridiculous when they turn on & off in normal conditions! Makes the car look like something isn't working properly, for very little gain for the driver. A bizarre technological 'advance' if ever I saw one!

Only ever seen this on Superbs.

Weird.

As on a MK2 Fabia vRS, the light unit that is a DRL with that type of brightness then may become a Sidelight

& also Parking lights with a reduced brightness..

(as my picture on page one showed & it was called a Toy Fabia.)

They are not DRL's at the reduced brightness, they are Sidelights as required under EU Approval & UK traffic Regulations..

Other Manufactures have done the same.

& like Some Skodas, might even have a unused/redundent sidelight build in the main Headlight unit.

Skoda in their lack of safety sense turned out Fabia MK2 vRS without Front Fog lights or the option to have front fog lights.

Must be one of their most stupid Fashion over function & safety designs errors ever..

Just Chav looking DRL's that become sidelights when you switch on Sidelights or the Headlights are switched on.

Parking light on one side front and rear & half a number plate lit when the indicator is put down & the key removed.

george

FWIW, IMO, cornering fogs do look ridiculous when they turn on & off in normal conditions! Makes the car look like something isn't working properly, for very little gain for the driver. A bizarre technological 'advance' if ever I saw one!

Normal conditions? What are the abnormal conditions?

You claim it is for little gain but you haven't experienced them?

You'll get used to them as they become more popular, just like other advances in vehicle lighting that has been introduced over the years.

i'm very very sure - the indicator does not trigger the cornering fogs.

Cornering fogs are not an option here in the UK on the Octavia. They can only be activated by the owner after delivery using VCDS.

I'm guessing Oz is different.

Mine come on with the indicator, I find this extra element useful as it provides extra light in the direction I'm about to turn into even if the road/steering is temporarily heading in the opposite direction.

?? What are these advances in vehicle lighting..

Could it be the rear of Volvos & Audis where the Tail LIghts and a brake light on mean you can not see the orange indicator.

or the amount of Faulty Angel eye and Halo lights you see.

These Cornering DRL's that the start of this Thread said 'Must be Faulty'.

I hate to say this, but must.

In the past decades the National speed limits are the same

, many roads are the same or better than decades ago, few are worse.

& the Sky & night has not got any darker & actually there is less fog in many areas than the old smoggy days.

Advances are the likes of Skoda launching a new model in 2010 without Fog Lights & things like proved by this forum & this thread. People do not even know what their vehicles lights can do.

Next years MOT's and future ones will be interesting,

so many cars bulbs are about to start failing due to the hours of usage,

the costs are rising not reducing.

lots to be said for KISS principles

george