You guys are best placed to know, you must spot Skodas.

Are they just driving with only Cornering Fogs on all the time, no dipped beam & sidelights,

as are Polo & Golf drivers,

& Punto drivers with just these on but without Headlights & Sidelights ?

Not quite, we haven't got to the bottom of why the DRL's were performing the role of cornering foglights rather than the foglights themselves.

Blimey! You got that picture on cut'n'paste???

The reason the Punto owner's are confused is because the wheels are pointing to the right, this is the reason why they can't get the front fog light / cornering light to turn off. If they'd have straightened the steering wheel it would have turned off.

Interestingly on VAG car's turning on the indicator opposite to the direction that the wheels are pointing overides which cornering light illuminates. On the Fiat this doesn't appear to be the case.

There are only three ways in which a car will only have one front light illuminated whether that is a DRL, sidelight, headlight, main beam or fog light.

1) Cornering fog light

2) Parking light

3) Blown bulb

Blimey! You got that picture on cut'n'paste???

A picture speaks a thousand words.

The reason the Punto owner's are confused is because the wheels are pointing to the right, this is the reason why they can't get the front fog light / cornering light to turn off. If they'd have straightened the steering wheel it would have turned off.

Seems it's not just the people in the video that are confused about how they work.

Interestingly on VAG car's turning on the indicator opposite to the direction that the wheels are pointing overides which cornering light illuminates. On the Fiat this doesn't appear to be the case.

VW quality vs Fiat quality? ;)

Back to the OP.

Sorry for totally not understanding the 2 experts, but

Are you saying the several cars i see a Day with only 2 lights on and one going off as they corner,

possibly,

have Cornering DRL's,

Cornering Fog lights only on, or are all faulty.?

I can not understand why i have never ever seen One light only showing & an indicator flashing.

george

A picture speaks a thousand words.

True, but I've seen DRLs in three different positions on an Octavia. As per your pic, LED strip just above the fog lights and integrated into the main cluster (although they may be aftermarket)

Cornering fogs = They're ridiculous.

DRL's = Every car should be made to have them, regardless of age.

Couldn't agree more!

(ducks down, grabs coat & runs away - it's that kind of thread! BTW, highly entertaining guys (George))

Edited 4 December, 201213 yr by dunc69

True, but I've seen DRLs in three different positions on an Octavia. As per your pic, LED strip just above the fog lights and integrated into the main cluster (although they may be aftermarket)

Three positions for the DRL's on the MkII Octavia...

1) As per my picture - incandescent bulbs - Elegance and L&K.

2) As per your picture - LED strips - vRS

3) As below - LED spots - Scout (cost option)

Sorry for totally not understanding the 2 experts, but

Are you saying the several cars i see a Day with only 2 lights on and one going off as they corner,

possibly,

have Cornering DRL's,

Cornering Fog lights only on, or are all faulty.?

I can not understand why i have never ever seen One light only showing & an indicator flashing.

Lights "going off" as a car corners isn't right.

Cornering fog lights are turned on only if the car's dipped headlights are turned on, the speed of the vehicle is below approx. 30mph and..

1) The steering wheel is turned,

2) Either indicator is turned on,

3) Reverse gear is selected (Some VAG models only).

See here for how they work on a MkII Octavia...

Thanks for that.

One that i see daily just now with just the 2 lights & one going out is a Blue 62 plate Octavia vRS Estate.

I will watch it closer.

A White Polo GTi that i see daily as well & the several Puntos, NHS District Nurses cars i think.

Various others around Dundee & Perth.

george

Lights "going off" as a car corners isn't right.

Cornering fog lights are turned on only if the car's dipped headlights are turned on, the speed of the vehicle is below approx. 30mph and..

1) The steering wheel is turned,

2) Either indicator is turned on,

3) Reverse gear is selected (Some VAG models only).

See here for how they work on a MkII Octavia...

At least you wont hit the garage door frame now you have those cornering fog lights to help

If my car had them, they'd be off straight away. ******* embarrassing

Do these things work when the Headlights are on Full Beam?

What is kind of obvious is that they are not actually Fog Lights, because in real most would want proper Fog lights, ie staying on, & when on dipped beam.

they appear to be just Driving/Chav lights.

Or T-W-A-T lights, 'this way and that', give us a clue what your next move is, with no real rhyme or reason to them.

Time will tell how long they last or people put up with getting them fixed.

Makes old Volvos seem like they had a Perfect Day Time Light system.

george

Now things have calmed down...

A reminder of what I was asking in this thead

The car was an Octavia Elegance FL - like mine so I do know where the DRLs are located even though mine are not activated.

The car was turning right - NO headlights, NO sidelights - just indicating right.

He had followed me up to the junction with BOTH DRLs illuminated - 110% sure the DRLs NOT the foglights.

As I pulled out of the junction I checked my mirror and saw just 1 DRL illuminated - the Offside one.

He pulled out behind me and followed me. As he straightened up the nearside DRL re-illuminated.

Is this normal behaviour? Why would it do this?

Driver was an old guy (in his 60's?) - so not the sort who you would expect to chav up his DRLs

Can't be to prevent the DRL masking the indicator cos he was indicating right and the left DRL had gone out.

Advice from DfT

http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/dft-information-sheets/daytime-running-lights.pdf

DRL activate automatically when the engine is started and remain on unless the headlamps are switched on. They may however remain off in some low speed and stationary situations. In general all other lights should remain off when the DRL are on but for a limited period some vehicles may be available which automatically activate the rear position lamps at the same time as the DRL.

DRL may be combined with other lamps. For example some manufacturers use the same lamp for both the DRL and position lamp. In these cases the DRL automatically dims to function as a lower intensity position lamp when the headlamps are turned on. DRL placed close to direction indicators may also automatically dim when the direction indicator is active. This is to ensure that the direction indicator is not masked by the light from the DRL.

Now seriously considering getting mine activated to see what they do! Unless - anybody out there with an FL Elegance who hasn't got bored of this thread who would care to experiment?

looks like his DRL wiring has been crossed.....quite literally!!!

there is NO option to code/program the 'opposite drl' to dim while turning/indicating.

if the wires were however crossed, then the behaviour the OP spotted would b plausible.

then again, wat r the chances of skoda going cross-eyed with the wiring - i'd like to say "nil".

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my cornering fogs trigger based on:-

1. steering input

2. low beam on

3. #2 & reverse gear.

it doesn't care which indicator is on. i.e. not based on the side with the indicator on.

Do these things work when the Headlights are on Full Beam?

As long as the dipped beam is on and speed is less than 40kph (has been stated previously)

What is kind of obvious is that they are not actually Fog Lights, because in real most would want proper Fog lights, ie staying on, & when on dipped beam.

See on-going discussion about fog-lights.

Let me save you the vast effort of actually looking for that one:

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/251071-people-who-use-their-rear-fog-lamps-in-the-rain/

give us a clue what your next move is, with no real rhyme or reason to them.

You've not read any of the previous posts then? There have been at least two, very clear, descriptions, *and* a video showing under what circumstances they are activated. Less ranting, more reading George. :|

Time will tell how long they last or people put up with getting them fixed.

Cars homologated pre-feb 2012 won't have any problem. Post feb-2012, it'll be an MOT failure. Plus, you don't see them from behind the wheel.

Makes old Volvos seem like they had a Perfect Day Time Light system.

.....also available on Skodas (maybe even the toy Fabias). Activated in VCDS as "Scandinavian Style DRLs".

Now seriously considering getting mine activated to see what they do! Unless - anybody out there with an FL Elegance who hasn't got bored of this thread who would care to experiment?

IIRC there is a paragraph in the FL manual that describes how to activate, without MaxiDot or VCDS.

looks like his DRL wiring has been crossed.....quite literally!!!

there is NO option to code/program the 'opposite drl' to dim while turning/indicating.

if the wires were however crossed, then the behaviour the OP spotted would b plausible.

then again, wat r the chances of skoda going cross-eyed with the wiring - i'd like to say "nil".

I would expect there to be more than one car out there if there were "crossed wires".

Could possibly be a control unit fault, not knowing it's left from it's right, but that should show up in other functions too.

looks like his DRL wiring has been crossed.....quite literally!!!

there is NO option to code/program the 'opposite drl' to dim while turning/indicating.

if the wires were however crossed, then the behaviour the OP spotted would b plausible.

then again, wat r the chances of skoda going cross-eyed with the wiring - i'd like to say "nil".

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my cornering fogs trigger based on:-

1. steering input

2. low beam on

3. #2 & reverse gear.

it doesn't care which indicator is on. i.e. not based on the side with the indicator on.

My Blackline has the option ticked on VCDS to dim the DRLs when indicating only works when headlights are off though.

Didn't activate cornering fogs as I think they look stupid - my opinion.

Comments here on observation, seeing whats there & paying attention are strange.IMO.

The Original poster has seen DRL's going out one at a time, i have been observing it for quite a while now on various VAG cars,

& not sure what the actual lights were on Fiats.

So it is happening, out there.

'None as blind as those that will not see'.

george

As said above if the DRL,s were functioning the way described in the OP the there appears to be a fault.

Re cornering fogs, they are a brilliant idea, but not for brightly lit towns or city's. They are only of real benefit on dark unlit country roads when the extra light showing up verges, kerbs, ditches etc is brilliant. Now if you could activate their use using Maxidot, or even a physical switch to turn them on or off. But alas unless you have VCDS or know someone who has it, you have to resolve to looking like a prat when driving in town.

IIRC there is a paragraph in the FL manual that describes how to activate, without MaxiDot or VCDS.

Yes - it is done by pulling the indicator stalk while it is in the left/right indicate position and holding it for a few seconds with ignition on and engine off. I also have maxidot. But they need to be enabled with VCDS before the option appears on maxidot and the indicator stalk procedure works.

But alas unless you have VCDS or know someone who has it, you have to resolve to looking like a prat when driving in town.

:wall: :wall:

I am now fully determined to get mine enabled to stick 2 fingers up at the prats who think other folk are prats because they don't conform to their narrow blinkered vision of acceptable behaviour. I will then get one of those scrolling message boards for the rear parcel shelf in which I will program "Yes! I have DRLs and cornering fogs enabled because I am a prat"

Better get used to it folks - all cars will have DRLs before long and if the car was homologated after Feb 2011 (not 2012 as previously stated) you can't turn them off.

Edited 5 December, 201213 yr by eccleshill

Better get used to it folks - all cars will have DRLs before long and if the car was homologated after Feb 2011 (not 2012 as previously stated) you can't turn them off.

My bad. I stand corrected.

My Blackline has the option ticked on VCDS to dim the DRLs when indicating only works when headlights are off though.

vRS DRLs will ONLY dim if the sidelights/headlights are off - if enabled, like u have, and i have.

:wall: :wall:

I am now fully determined to get mine enabled to stick 2 fingers up at the prats who think other folk are prats because they don't conform to their narrow blinkered vision of acceptable behaviour. I will then get one of those scrolling message boards for the rear parcel shelf in which I will program "Yes! I have DRLs and cornering fogs enabled because I am a prat"

Better get used to it folks - all cars will have DRLs before long and if the car was homologated after Feb 2011 (not 2012 as previously stated) you can't turn them off.

If you had read my post correctly, I have no problem with DRL's, it's cornering fogs in a well lit town or city, they just look plain stupid. I know I disabled mine on my yeti, got fed up with people telling me I had one light out, or driving in front of me, thinking I had flashed them?. And I did need VCDS to do it.only DLR' s can be enabled with Maxidot or wiper stalk ( at least the Yeti is this way).