louisv6  I know what you mean, but at the end of the day you will lose out financially, which is not right.

 

I took mine back & stated to them if this does not cue it I want a replacement New car.

So 3 alignments and a set of 4 new tyres Pirelli P Zero.  Sorted.

 

During that time, all credit to the dealer I had a loan car. No charge, & used their fuel.

 

 Anyway, good luck with whatever route you take, but Personally I would let them have the car first off. Just my opinion being as I have been on the other end S/E vehicle technician.

Edited 10 October, 201312 yr by Carlo diesel

louisv6  I know what you mean, but at the end of the day you will lose out financially, which is not right.

 

I took mine back & stated to them if this does not cue it I want a replacement New car.

So 3 alignments and a set of 4 new tyres Pirelli P Zero.  Sorted.

 

During that time, all credit to the dealer I had a loan car. No charge, & used their fuel.

 

 Anyway, good luck with whatever route you take, but Personally I would let them have the car first off. Just my opinion being as I have been on the other end S/E vehicle technician.

 

I agree, it's not right that I should lose out financially, but I have to put a value on my time and patience, and the chances of this being sorted with one visit (in my previous experience) unless I've got some decent evidence that there's a problem, and that it's not just an alignment issue, are pretty slim. My last Fabia spent nearly 15% of its life at the workshop, and I have had more loan cars, and more 10 mile trips to the dealers than I can count. Not going down that road again... so I'll hand them the alignment report, plus a copy of this thread and tell them to get on with it ;-)

Edited 10 October, 201312 yr by louisv6

Had three alignments all spot on. Changed wheels front to back was a lot better. was told to let him know what it was like after 3000 miles.  but now gone the same as before.    Its like a pull to the left not a steer i have to hold with a right hand down pressure

 

Phoned the dealers two weeks ago and they said they will get back but no. No phone call or nothing. (Service guy said he will ask the tech guys and get back to me) 

Just rang the dealer today to report the dreaded pull to the left.

The service manager was spot on, he even confirmed there's a problem with the Montes and he's had a couple in.

There seems to be a course of action set out by Skoda as he says they need it for a couple of days to do various tests in stages.

He says sometimes they've ended up having to fit different tyres but these 'steps' have to be followed first.

It's booked in for the 23rd as that's the earliest they'll have a courtesy car.

They'll fill my car with fuel and all I need to do is bring my licence so they can give me a car to use.

He's going to see about the rattle/knock from the driver's side rear quarter as well while it's in.

Will update when it's gone in.

Called Skoda UK today and logged mine as it's already been in dealers twice and had an alignment, they are are going to look into it and come back to me next week so, hopefully will come with a resolution whatever that might be.

The service manager wants to keep my car for a couple of days so they can do the required checks, he says they've ended up fitting brand new sets of tyres on some but they have to try the remedial work first.

He says rather than do one thing then give it back only to have to bring it in again, they'll keep it until the technician is happy with it.

Any other problems he says, they'll do when it's in.

When speaking to the Technician he asked if there was anything else he could help with.

I asked about resetting the door locking modes to lock when pulling away and unlock with the key removal.

Was a Nice touch.

CD

 

 

Ps. With the new tyres there is NO PULL.

That's what I was going to ask while it was in.

Wanted the one press locking/unlocking and maybe the alarm beep etc.

First and foremost though, I want the pulling sorted.

He seemed to know what he was talking about when I told him I had read about the problems so I'm pretty confident it'll get sorted.

My car has been at the dealer for three days and they are saying there is nothing wrong, it's normal for a Monte Carlo to do this.

 

So I need to provide some proof that it can be fixed! Unfortunately I don't think just printing this forum thread out will be enough.

 

Can someone who has had this problem sucessfully fixed PM me the dealer name and a contact where they had it fixed?

Ideally a contact at Skoda UK.

 

If I still don't get anywhere I'm going to reject the car as I notified them of the fault within my cooling off period.

I don't think it's safe that the car pulls that much.

Marky

 

Call your Dealer, and tell them Your Rejecting the car.

You want a replacement New car that does not pull.

 

Or if you want to, Call Skoda Barnstaple & speak to Marc on reception. 01271 373373

Just ask him about the pulling.

 

My quote

"I took mine back & stated to them if this does not cue it I want a replacement New car.

So 3 alignments and a set of 4 new tyres Pirelli P Zero.  Sorted."

 

There is no such thing as they all do it.

Do not accept this as it is completely wrong.

 

Good luck Marky & don't give up.

CD

Marky,

just call Skoda UK Customer Services, get a contact and explain the Dealership are just playing at being stupid,

 

Skoda UK can arrange for the vehicle to be correctly checked and the problem fixed if your nearest Dealership are not prepared to look at the problem.

 

The Dealer is almost correct, but it is not Normal for a Monte Carlo to do that, just the growing number of them that 

are getting turned out of the Factory doing it.

Thats the Wrong ones.

 

george

I am not totally convinced it's a tyre issue.

My gut says it's a problem with the design of the front suspension on the Monte Carlo's but it's only on Dunlop tyres, with their stiffer side walls, that the problem shows itself.

But I am not an expert on these matters so I am happy if replacement tyres fix the issue.

 

Anyway my dealer has logged a call with Skoda UK as another person had come into the dealer with the same problem also mentioning the words "Dunlop, Tyres, Internet, monte carlo, pulling to the left".

Also it turns out that several of the service staff have Monte Carlos and they all pull to the left (all seem to have Dunlops)!!! Except for one which wears Continentals.

 

I'll know more on Monday.

The problem is with VW as well as Skoda

and Dunlops might show it more but the problem can be also with Continentals.

 

To much of dealerships and Workshop & Sales staff passing off as normal.

 

Sometimes it is, and a car on UK cambers may go to the left a little,

but Pulling to the left is a different matter, only an idiot passes off as normal a vehicle really pulling to the left.

 

UK Cars that are driving correctly can be taken abroad and not wonder across to the wrong side of the highway.

 

george

Mine is a definite pulling and not just moving over to follow the camber.

 

There's a bit of road near where I live where the road slopes to the right into the central reservation and the car still wants to pull to the left so it's not the natural camber of the road.

 

My dealer knows of the fault and has had a couple in all ready so why others are saying there's not a problem or aren't aware of any just don't want to deal or get involved with it.

 

Hopefully in 2 weeks time mine will be cured but we'll wait and see.

This video was posted by another member and the subject was new tyres inflated not through the valve and how a wheel tyre counld be on a car with no valve hole drilled or a valve fitted.

 

'They' can check properly the vehicles 4 wheel Alignments, tracking, camber, castor angle etc.

But thats done static, then take the vehicle for a road test.

But if physically and technically the vehicle is correct and yet still pulling to the left, (or even to the right.)

They need to check the tyres, type,pressures, fitment. directional & on correctly & Run Out Markings,

If they are clueless they need someone that understands the principles and practice to do things,

not just say, they are all like that.

 

The important thing that is maybe relevant to this thread is,

that when a factory is fitting tyres to rims, there can be tyres then fitted to cars with 'Run Out' not suiting the vehicle.

This is happening quite often it would appear.

Sometimes new tyres are not required, its just tyres or different tyres fitted differently on rims and on vehicles.

(a wee trip at 2.25 seconds.)

Update, in case this helps anyone:

 

I decided against an independent alignment check before handing my car back to the dealers, and instead see how it plays out with Skoda.

 

Car has been with the dealers since Tuesday morning and so far they've:

• Given me a courtesy car at no charge (Fabia Estate Elegance TSI 1.2)
• Confirmed their technician agrees it pulls to the left, and that it shouldn't be that way.
• Contacted Skoda UK to authorise an alignment check.
• Performed an alignment check, which they confirm is correct.
• Contacted Skoda UK to tell them that the alignment is OK. 
• Skoda UK requested a copy of the alignment printout, which is going across now before agreeing next steps.
• Dealer representative has hinted that this will likely be tyre replacement but doesn't want to hedge his bets yet.

The dealers have been spot on so far, and very communicative. This is how we should be treated - anyone not getting this kind of response should be making their expectations clear and/or contacting Skoda UK directly.

 

Let's hope this works out.

This video was posted by another member and the subject was new tyres inflated not through the valve and how a wheel tyre counld be on a car with no valve hole drilled or a valve fitted.

 

That was probably me, George.

 

I think I mentioned it before, but irrespective of the letters and numbers on the sidewall of a tyre, they are not all the same.  Dunlops very hard sidewalls (you'd almost be forgiven for thinking they are runflats), Pirellis about the softest I experienced.  Goodyear a bit stiffer than Continentals on some sizes, not on others, the list goes on.

 

There is folklore (and generally agreed by those who've discussed it, albeit on French Car forums, so read into that what you will..) that French cars always ran better on Michelins - hydraulic Citroens being especially "touchy" about their tyres.

How's it going Marky.

Update, in case this helps anyone:

 

I decided against an independent alignment check before handing my car back to the dealers, and instead see how it plays out with Skoda.

 

Car has been with the dealers since Tuesday morning and so far they've:

• Given me a courtesy car at no charge (Fabia Estate Elegance TSI 1.2)
• Confirmed their technician agrees it pulls to the left, and that it shouldn't be that way.
• Contacted Skoda UK to authorise an alignment check.
• Performed an alignment check, which they confirm is correct.
• Contacted Skoda UK to tell them that the alignment is OK. 
• Skoda UK requested a copy of the alignment printout, which is going across now before agreeing next steps.
• Dealer representative has hinted that this will likely be tyre replacement but doesn't want to hedge his bets yet.

The dealers have been spot on so far, and very communicative. This is how we should be treated - anyone not getting this kind of response should be making their expectations clear and/or contacting Skoda UK directly.

 

Let's hope this works out.

This is the same steps mine is going through today.

Took it in yesterday and was given a Citygo, no charge, and the Service guy has updated me today to say they've done he alignment and it's still not right and he says they're just waiting for Skoda to give the go ahead for the next step.

He says I'll probably end up with a new set of tyres and a full tank of fuel.

He's asked if they can just keep my car until it's all sorted and fixed so probably not get it back until early next week.

The delays are from waiting for Skoda to advise the next steps and authorise the work.

I have just experienced something very strange and expensive with my Monte.

 

I got a puncture in the front near side at just over 11,000 miles, no big deal you would think but the tyre was completely scrubbed bald on the right hand side, strange as the car was service back in June and I didn't notice any problems with handling.

 

So putting this down to tracking I got a new tyre fitted. The car pulled strongly to the left.

 

I was more than annoyed with the dealer, the car being in a situation where I felt it was unsafe and clearly not correct.

 

After much investigation including swapping wheels around (this caused the car to steer to the right)  it has only been cured by changing the off-side tyre as well to a new fitment.

 

Needless to say I am at the mercy of the dealer but they mentioned other Monte tyre issues they have seen recently (I guess they are getting to the age where tyres will be wearing)

 

I am now down around £280 but my car does track 100% true.

 

I swore in the past I wouldn't have another car with low profile tyres as they add little to the handling or ride and inevitably end up with problems and the rubber is very expensive.

 

I think I will try Skoda UK customer care, I really don't think I should need 2 new tyres in these circumstances, albeit the state of the roads is a real threat to the tracking on cars such as the Monte Carlo.

 

I shall be watching the wear on the tyres much more carefully in future.

 

Hope this may help with your problem.

Norton,

 

That's about right. If I get 12,000 miles on the fronts of the Monte I will be amazed....

My 2010 Toyota Yaris 1.4 diesel was exactly the same.

Front Tyres at 12000 miles.

Rears would have lasted 4 sets of fronts.

 

 

Quote "  completely scrubbed bald on the right"  I'd try and have a go at the dealer about that.

CD

Our Dunlop's where replaced with about 3.5k showing little wear and don't suspect we will be wearing out the Pirelli's quickly either. The TSI is so light, plus we fit winters for three to five months a year.

 

Also surprised to hear people are still having issues with cars turning left, surely the factory would have sorted out the issue by now, even if that meant fitting the Pirelli Nero in the factory to cars with sport suspension and 205/40 R17 tyres. Must be costing them quite a bit in warranty repairs.

 

Oh ours started drifting left again and with a wheel wobble; lost balance weights at the front but now sorted again.

 

 

TP

Hey guysss!

 

Right! Here's the deal! I've had just about enough of this now! 

I've been dealing with my car through Skoda customer services, the guy helping me Ian Barry, has been fantastic. But sadly after being messed around by Skoda a further two times he has come to agree with me the only option left is to reject my car. The car is frankly unsafe to drive, the pull to the left is pretty severe and I hate driving it down the motorway now. Not to mention I have a problem with my wrist which is being constantly irritated by the car requiring constant counteraction to stop the car pulling to the left.

 

The last time my car went into the garage the dealer decided that I have a buckled wheel caused by curbing my car and a tyre that needs replacing (on a different wheel) they refuse to do any further work under warranty until I get a new wheel and a new tyre, they also said that when I buckled my wheel the chances are that i've damaged my suspension which is why my car might be pulling to the left, something else which I will have to fund myself to replace. When I got the car back from the dealer I went to my local garage and asked them to look at my car for me. He stated that yes my wheel has very very slightly bucked, but it was caused by going over a sleeping policeman speed bump (likely on my local tesco carpark) and that under no circumstance what so ever would this cause my car to pull to the left. He did agree I need a new tyre. This angered me that the dealer was actually going to let me pay out for something which they would have known wasn't the cause of the problem. 

To top everything off I took my car to my friends garage to have the tyre replaced and Lookers had then lost the locking wheel nuts for my car which mean until I get new ones my tyre cant be replaced. In the mean time in the last three months I really hurt my back braking harshly when a kid ran out in front of my car so I am barely even driving at the moment.

I am going to copy and paste everything that has been written on this post as part of my evidence as to the length of time i've been having problems with my car. 

I don't really get chance to come on here very often but if anyone would like to get intouch with me regarding anything my email address is [email protected]

 

I'll keep you updated soon and maybe post a copy of my rejection letter if anyone is interested. 

 

- Vickey

Update: car fixed.

Dealer replaced all four tyres for pirellis. Exactly what should happen.

 

Thumbs up to Citygate Watford. They also mentioned they've been seeing this issue on new VRSs (but not any Montes apart from mine, to their knowledge).

 

FWIW (following on from my last post):

• They sent off the tracking/camber settings to Skoda UK who authorised new tyres
• They took photos of the tyres at Skoda UK's request before swapping them (though this wasn't another step before changing the tyres - just something SUK wanted for their records, so they're presumably trying to figure out what's going on with all these cars)
• Tyres swapped.

Edited 29 October, 201312 yr by louisv6