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Frontier Vehicle Leasing do some great deals

They had some BMW M3's 2dr ones for £299 + VAT with 5K down over 24 months!

Here are some Merc Deals from Concept Vehicle Leasing (and they aren't hte cheapest)

Mercedes C-Class Saloon C250 Cdi AMG Sport Auto

Business Lease from £295.49 + VAT p/m over 36 months.

Personal Lease from £354.59 inc VAT p/m over 36 months.

I like the sound of the BMW. Not sure if the C350 deal is still going, but Merc themselves, were doing it for £2k down and £350 a month PCP. But the advantage with that is, if the car is worth more than the final GFV, you can get the profit :) Also, there is still a couple of grand to haggle out of the car which means about £60 a month less (using the usual PCP adjuster of £1,000 on purchase price = £30 a month of payments on a 3 year deal) Still reckon it's a steal

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Dont be silly! The 330i is bloody slow lol!!

The dervs will kill it

I was thinking the same thing myself.

And you wouldn't even know you were in a diesel bar the first slipt second ot starting it up

I was thinking the same thing myself.

And you wouldn't even know you were in a diesel bar the first slipt second ot starting it up

Don't forget the Fabia 2.0 petrol would eat them for brunch

Don't forget the Fabia 2.0 petrol would eat them for brunch

Only on falkens though. ...... why do people keep forgetting the falkens !!!

Only on falkens though. ...... why do people keep forgetting the falkens !!!

Or was it the Honda Civic that ate everything for breakfast? I forget. There have been so many hungry cars on Brisky over the years

Totally echo the points made about good contract hire deals. Seriously, if you live on the main contract hire sites and monitor them regularly, there are always stunning deals to be had if you catch them before they've gone.

eg Merc E Coupe 350cdi last year. 330/month inc vat, 6 months down. Serious amount of car for the money.

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Trouble with the C63 is there are quite a few options that you need/want to add. Plus the insane running costs. It's not all about the monthly payment of a basic spec car. You're going to want H K speakers, 19s and rear diff then you're more at £700 a month. My S4 started at £450 a month with no spec now I'm at much higher than that for a specced S5. It soon adds up as none of these are ready from the poverty spec model advertised.

What really annoyed me looking at the Audis is the lack of even basic cruise control as standard on the black editions

What really annoyed me looking at the Audis is the lack of even basic cruise control as standard on the black editions

You're telling me. My £43k S5 had to have cruise added! Ended up being 48.5k to get a decent spec. Joke!

What really annoyed me looking at the Audis is the lack of even basic cruise control as standard on the black editions

But it's common and seemingly accepted.

When I was looking at a TT-RS it was around £45k discounted, but that didn't have cruise control either!

WTF is that all about, my Fabia Greenline II had it as standard on an £11k car!

But when you think about it, it does two things very well IMO.

1. It gets you in the door and in love with the car before they part you with a lump of extra cash, unless you want a basic spec and just want to pay for the badge.

2. It protects the percieved low depreciation rates. Because it may hold 50%+ of it's value after three years, but it's based on the price of the car, not the price you paid after speccing up to what it should have in the first place.

Again, good to get customers in the door. The type that looks at the depreciation percentages the car mags love rather than the whopping great amount it actually looses in real pounds.

Good points

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Trouble with the C63 is there are quite a few options that you need/want to add. Plus the insane running costs. It's not all about the monthly payment of a basic spec car. You're going to want H K speakers, 19s and rear diff then you're more at £700 a month. My S4 started at £450 a month with no spec now I'm at much higher than that for a specced S5. It soon adds up as none of these are ready from the poverty spec model advertised.

Did you ever see my post about the Audi Sports Diff fitted to my A4? It was £500 as an option, but when I broked it :( the nice peeps at Audi fixeded it under warranty and informed me it would have cost over.......£7,000 if I had paid for it myself!!!!!!!

I think im all about the toys on a car rather than the performance, i haven't actually ordered the Merc yet that was the one they gave me for the weekend, but im pretty sure my mind is set on the Merc.

I do have to say i think the Command system is better than the I-Drive system and the Mercs adaptive lights were phenominal. I suppose its each to their own but for a daily drive i'd rather be more comfortable and entertained on the way.

Did you ever see my post about the Audi Sports Diff fitted to my A4? It was £500 as an option, but when I broked it :( the nice peeps at Audi fixeded it under warranty and informed me it would have cost over.......£7,000 if I had paid for it myself!!!!!!!

Blimey.

I must admit the service at Audi is sublime. Walked into Skoda the other day and I looked round the showroom at three cars and I didn't even get acknowledged.

I think im all about the toys on a car rather than the performance, i haven't actually ordered the Merc yet that was the one they gave me for the weekend, but im pretty sure my mind is set on the Merc.

I do have to say i think the Command system is better than the I-Drive system and the Mercs adaptive lights were phenominal. I suppose its each to their own but for a daily drive i'd rather be more comfortable and entertained on the way.

Toys are cool to have you're right. I can't comment on I-drive, hmmm, maybe a trip to visit an M3 may sort that out.

I think im all about the toys on a car rather than the performance, i haven't actually ordered the Merc yet that was the one they gave me for the weekend, but im pretty sure my mind is set on the Merc.

I do have to say i think the Command system is better than the I-Drive system and the Mercs adaptive lights were phenominal. I suppose its each to their own but for a daily drive i'd rather be more comfortable and entertained on the way.

Agree totally about Command and lighting. I can also recommend the auto dampers, in sport it is a much better drive than my old A4 with the full Drive select and sports diff (although the A4 in this spec is seriously quick cross country and in the wet a lot quicker than a 330D on fast A roads). Yet in econ (standard) it makes a stunning motorway car.I love the upgrade audio too. Oh and if you order the Sport Plus, make sure you opt out of the Red Seatbelts unless you want them. They are standard spec.

Blimey.

I must admit the service at Audi is sublime. Walked into Skoda the other day and I looked round the showroom at three cars and I didn't even get acknowledged.

They gave me an A6 Avant and informed me they were having to get a diff from Germany. Great! I thought, all those trips to the tip and carting ridiculous long things like Billy book cases, here I come. Ruddy Audi went and flew the gearbox over and I drove off in my fixed car after 21/2 days. Which was good, but bad at the same time :D

I really liked the red seatbelts the only thing i didn't like much but thought was a nice touch was when the belts pull tight when you start the car, found out how to turn it off swiftly though :)

I really liked the red seatbelts the only thing i didn't like much but thought was a nice touch was when the belts pull tight when you start the car, found out how to turn it off swiftly though :)

I did the same :D bit unnerving. Like having a small child in the back tugging on your belt

With the sport button pressed the auto box works much better. A lot quicker and if you go to manual mode, the flappy paddles start to make sense. The gearbox isn't as good as the latest BMW box though :( but in sport mode, it is similar to the previous 3 series, 6 speed g/box (except it has one more gear :) )

You're telling me. My £43k S5 had to have cruise added! Ended up being 48.5k to get a decent spec. Joke!

Seriously, the worst ever has for to be the lack of a glovebox light if 'interior light package' wasn't specced. Truly shocking. This on a 35k A5.

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Dont be silly! The 330i is bloody slow lol!!

The dervs will kill it

Maybe! But that's not my point. I much prefer the sound and feel of a great petrol over a diesel any day. I've driven both, and whilst the petrol 6 might feel slower, is a whole lot more satisfying. IIRC the performance figures from BMW show the equivalent petrols to be faster, but can't check as I write this so don't flame me! The lighter nose weight has also got to help the handling balance: it's not just about straight line grunt right?

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The equivalent to the 330i is now a 4 cylinder turbo 328i (hmmm at least you could remap it perhaps...), but you're right a 335d would be quicker than the old petrol model, Autocar tested a 330i 0-62 in 6.3s So sloooow!

Comparing £ for £ I know where I'd go:

From BMW site, 3 series coupe: 335d M sport 0-62 5.9s, 335i M sport 5.5s

From Evo Mag (FWIW)

  • BMW 335i M Sport
    £36,265
    6/2979
    302/5800
    1600kg
    192 (bhp/tonne)
    5.2 (0-62)
    155
    31
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    Eager engine, exploitable chassis
    Slightly unadventurous styling
  • BMW 335d M Sport
    £38,330
    6/2993
    282/4400
    1645kg
    174 (bhp/tonne)
    5.9 (0-62)
    155
    42.2
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    As above, with even more torque
    As above, and it's a diesel

Maybe! But that's not my point. I much prefer the sound and feel of a great petrol over a diesel any day. I've driven both, and whilst the petrol 6 might feel slower, is a whole lot more satisfying. IIRC the performance figures from BMW show the equivalent petrols to be faster, but can't check as I write this so don't flame me! The lighter nose weight has also got to help the handling balance: it's not just about straight line grunt right?

Have to say i agree with this. Id far rather have a 330i than a 335d.

BMW 6cyl petrols are silky smooth and sound lush. Would rather then MPG of the diesel but in every other way petrol is just better. People harp on about torque of a diesel but IMO this is just one feature and it doesnt make up for the lack of revs or the smoothness and definately not the noise. Money and emmisions no object then its petrol every time for me. Money and emmisions are an issue in reality though so i dont get to enjoy such cars. Pity.

That new ZF box is meant to be amazing. Seem some motoring journalists mistake it for twin clutch it's so fast.

We have 3 cars, a VW with 6 speed wet clutch DSG, Skoda with 7 speed dry clutch DSG and BMW with ZF 8HP 8 speed auto.

The ZF box is easily the best gearbox, far smoother and feels 99% as quick on flat out changes and in many normal on road conditions much quicker than the DSG without the hesitation

Piston Heads product of the year.

http://www.pistonhea...p?storyId=26917

Cheers

Lee

Edited by logiclee

Just playing fantasy car buyer (fuelled by a lot of alcohol :D ) and I see that BMW are at last offering some seriously good offers on the 3 series. The new PCP rates have reduced the monthly payments for an equivalent car to mine by nearly £200 a month!! I reckon a similar spec 330D would only be about another £40 a month or there abouts (including a decent discount of around 10%). I would dearly love one of these cars, but there again, I truly love my current car and it isn't very often I can say that with as much certainty.

The down side of all this is, but the time I return my current wheels, the BMW will be undergoing a facelift and the prices will have gone back up :( Mind you, the new C class will have been out for about a year, so perhaps there will be decent deals to be done on that :) or there again, I might be struggling for work as one of my main employers looks as thought they may have gone to the wall by then :( but I might just buy a little Fiat Panda 4x4 to save money :)

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We have 3 cars, a VW with 6 speed wet clutch DSG, Skoda with 7 speed dry clutch DSG and BMW with ZF 8HP 8 speed auto.

The ZF box is easily the best gearbox, far smoother and feels 99% as quick on flat out changes and in many normal on road conditions much quicker than the DSG without the hesitation

Piston Heads product of the year.

http://www.pistonhea...p?storyId=26917

Cheers

Lee

Out of curiosity is 8 gears too many? Ive owned BMW 6 speed autos beofre and liked them very much. My current car has DSG with 6 speeds and paddles. I love using the paddles but i would imagine shuffling between 8 gears might become tiresome. How do you find it? 8 or even 9 gears when in full auto D mode probably wouldnt make a noticeable difference but when manually shifting it must be hard to remember what gear your in without resorting to looking at the dash display.

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