Dunlops - only worth using for underlay.

:-) They don't call them Dunflops for nothing.

However I have been reading very good things about the new Dunlop Sport Bluresponse - looks like it might actually be a decent tyre to consider for less sporty models.

Thats a good price... Going to keep them white?

Nope, need to buy grit ( I already have grit blasting attachment to my pressure washer) to blast it with and then spray them black of course. It will be mat black for track work . I am really curious about the tyres

:-) They don't call them Dunflops for nothing.

However I have been reading very good things about the new Dunlop Sport Bluresponse - looks like it might actually be a decent tyre to consider for less sporty models.

I have absolutely no problems with Dunflops for even spirited road driving, it is track work where they simply turn into chocolate and start shedding rubber like there was no tomorrow!

The problem with tyres they are only ever relative to what you have experienced in the past.

The problem with tyres they are only ever relative to what you have experienced in the past.

Absolutely.

What is also true is that when I drive and feel that tyres give up, say at roundabout etc, then I know that either car is inherently crap handling or the rubber is no good. So far I could not safely push past traction limits on Dunlops on public roads hence my statement...

Maybe I just do not drive fast enough

I've had no problem with the Dunlops, either. When it rains here, it's either torrential (virtually tropical strength) or it follows a long dry spell and the road gets very slippery at first. Sure, I get wheel-spin when turning a corner especially, but a grip otherwise is fine - wet or dry. Still, when the fronts wear down, which I'm thinking isn't going to be much past 20,000km, I might try something else. :think:

Had a new set of Pirelli P Zero fitted under Skoda warranty. (to cure a pull problem)

Only had the Dunlop's on for 2,000 miles. But what a difference.

Quieter & a better ride feel altogether.

Plus side replacements will be slightly cheaper than Dunlop's.

On the other hand i put 4 Pirelli P Zero Nero's on the other week for 500 miles and they were noisy & felt rather different to the worn Dunlop Sport Maxx i had on for a good few thousand miles before, felt total cr4p actually.

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i am now running on another pair of new Dunlops on the front & they are as good as the last pair.

So its really Horses for Courses, or just what suits each driver.

http://wheels-inmoti...p?showtopic=165

This is sometimes the reason that cars pull one way or another,

and tyre fitters and garages have no idea, and they go changing tyres, its then the luck of the draw if the car then does not pull to the left, or the right.

george

On the other hand i put 4 Pirelli P Zero Nero's on the other week for 500 miles and they were noisy & felt rather different to the worn Dunlop Sport Maxx i had on for a good few thousand miles before, felt total cr4p actually.

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i am now running on another pair of new Dunlops on the front & they are as good as the last pair.

So its really Horses for Courses, or just what suits each driver.

http://wheels-inmoti...p?showtopic=165

This is sometimes the reason that cars pull one way or another,

and tyre fitters and garages have no idea, and they go changing tyres, its then the luck of the draw if the car then does not pull to the left, or the right.

george

funny you should mention that George, ,y car had the wheel alignment done after lowering before delivery, and seemed to pull left more than my old car, after swopping alloys and putting the maxxis back on, this tendancy has gone! they seem to tramline less too...

The Maxxis do tramline less, this was very noticeable for me as I do a lot of motorway miles...

Lets face it, very few road going tyres are going to have the specs which can cope with the rigours of a decent track day session, although my Michelin PS3s stood up fairly well on the Octavia, mainly because the track wasn't too hot on the day - lasy year's was a bit different because it was a much warmer day in general and they did tend to melt a bit

So perhaps harder, less grippy budget tyres could be good ? Assuming they take longer to heat up and to achieve (if at all) the "melting point" and will deliver more grip the hotter they are...

I was going to use the money from the sale of my wheels to fund a set of federals, however after putting my old wheels on and driving it (awsome) and seeing how pristine the maxxis Z1's look after 4 laps of the ring and castle coombe, I wont be changing them, it would be a waste of the money.... (maybe a RARB provided my garage dont throw a fit on warrenty issues)

how do I identify my car when searching a site for parts? is it a "6Y" ?!

answered myself its "5J"

I have no problem with Dunlops. I've done nearly 9000 miles on them and Never experienced any lack of grip at road speeds, never had any under steer and are an absolute dream in the wet. I've hit standing water at 70mph (unavoidable) and the car has not flinched at all. I push them hard at weekends on country roads and still have 6mm on the fronts and no feathering or signs of excessive wear. If you are loosing grip on public roads, you are going too fast.

Correct pressure and using them for what they are and what they are designed for, at road speeds and I don't see why you should have a problem with them. No, I haven't used them on a track but if I do, then I wouldn't expect them to grip or wear like a track tyre.

Edited 9 June, 201313 yr by Gumby

It's a 5J, Dave

Lets face it, very few road going tyres are going to have the specs which can cope with the rigours of a decent track day session, although my Michelin PS3s stood up fairly well on the Octavia, mainly because the track wasn't too hot on the day - lasy year's was a bit different because it was a much warmer day in general and they did tend to melt a bit

Its very hit and miss. What works on some models wont work on others. I bought Toyo T1Rs as they are meant to be the tyre of choice for people running the old clio 172/182 etc, but I practically melted them at the nurburgring on a scorcher of a day (38degrees), replaced them that night with Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta's and went down again the next day, same temps and they just soaked it up no issues.

Anyway, someone needs to buy these: http://www.ebay.co.u...=item232bb9b580

edit, ignore that, they are 245 not 215. Need my eyes testing lol

This particular ones or this tyre in general? The e-bay ones in the link look completely used up and last photo shows badly overheated tyres

This particular ones or this tyre in general? The e-bay ones in the link look completely used up and last photo shows badly overheated tyres

Those particular ones. Turns out they were the wrong width anyway(i need to check my eyes) but for £95 they will be good for a couple trackdays at least.

Ha ha, disn't spot that either .

BTW, this fit or be way too big for 7JJ rims? Sorry, but I have no clue on that front

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m117b0s4472p57670/Toyo_Tyres_Trackday_Track_Day_Toyo_R1R_Proxes_Toyo_R1_R_-_245_35_R17_91W_TL_

not a chance. For 225 you need a 7.5" wide wheel. 245mm your looking at an 8" + wide rim. It would be massively overkill anyway. I personally dont think 225 is needed. Mine doesnt suffer lack of grip with 215 width semi slicks. There is such a thing as too much grip where it will become boring IMO. http://www.alloywheels.com/Tyre_Calculator

Thanks. I was just looking for 17" 35 profile rubber and that was the only track day one they had

Are the Seat and VW twinchargers running the 215 tyres the same rim widths as the Fabia's?

Are the Seat and VW twinchargers running the 215 tyres the same rim widths as the Fabia's?

Yeah they are. 215s will be going on my furby when due for a change