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Weve been working with our partner DTE Systems in Germany on the latest 2.0 TDI 150PS which is shared with the latest Octavia

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Their new Audi A3 on their 150,000 euro Maha dyno :)

And the end result..

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179 hp and 395nm

These results were from our CRD-T module on a base, out of the box setting on a car with less than 1000 miles on the clock.

These will be available to purchase within the next 7 days

If you are an existing customer running a CRD-T on a MK2 CR 140/170PS we can upgrade your system allowing you to transfer your kit over to the latest 2.0 150PS (contact us for details)

Fitting instructions are available here

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?pr4qwa6ag35wx2p

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  • Anything that increases timing and boost beyond the factory set limits will potentially void the drivetrain warranty afaik.

  • FFS, hope shark performance get the same grief when they announce there chip for the same engine.

  • Hi, I want to fill my engine with sand. I know this will invalidate my warranty, but can I claim against the builder's merchant for a new engine?

All fine and dandy - but I suspect that to carry out this mod on a new Octavia would mean kissing bi bi to the warranty.....

Weve been working with our partner DTE Systems in Germany on the latest 2.0 TDI 150PS which is shared with the latest Octavia

audi20150ps.png

Their new Audi A3 on their 150,000 euro Maha dyno :)

And the end result..

179 hp and 395nm

These results were from our CRD-T module on a base, out of the box setting on a car with less than 1000 miles on the clock.

How exactly does the box work? How does it actually gain the power? How does it differ from an ECU remap?

Remove the box and the car is entirely back to OEM, no software changes or cut ECU casings as there would be with a remap.

If a car turns up to a garage completely standard with the correct software and no evidence of ECU tampering how is it something that would ever come to light? If ( and its a big if ) they looked at the fuel rail and boost pressure logs and saw some anomalies thats no proof, a modern car can do alsorts of wierd stuff; grounds for no action whatsoever.

You would be amazed what diagnostic equipment can show up - modern ECU's have a remarkable record of what the car has done, engine over revs, turbocharger boost peaks, timing etc and that sort of power jump would probably show up as an abnormality. I wouldn't risk it. A garage wouldn't be looking for it during a routine service, but if you had a warranty claim due to an engine defect............

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Weve been working with our partner DTE Systems in Germany on the latest 2.0 TDI 150PS which is shared with the latest Octavia

audi20150ps.png

Their new Audi A3 on their 150,000 euro Maha dyno :)

And the end result..

audi20tdi150psdynograph.jpg

179 hp and 395nm

These results were from our CRD-T module on a base, out of the box setting on a car with less than 1000 miles on the clock.

These will be available to purchase within the next 7 days

If you are an existing customer running a CRD-T on a MK2 CR 140/170PS we can upgrade your system allowing you to transfer your kit over to the latest 2.0 150PS (contact us for details)

Fitting instructions are available here

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?pr4qwa6ag35wx2p

Nice to see the 170 CR still makes quite a bit more power mapped, 150 must be a lightly mapped version of the 140, or at least share injectors, turbo etc id have thought. Betting the 184ps unit makes no more power than the 170 mapped.

Nice looking A3 :)

Nice looking A3 :)

That colour would look good on the new vRS :think:

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Just a thought..

Do we have any Briskoda owners based in Durham or Newcastle that are running the last 2.0 TDI 150PS?

Just a thought..

Do we have any Briskoda owners based in Durham or Newcastle that are running the last 2.0 TDI 150PS?

Any chance of answering the above questions?!
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The system connects to multiple sensors on the engine, and manipulates these sensors down stream of the edu, rather than at source like a remap.

With the crd-t we can increase both fuel and boost to match any decent remap.

Taken from our website..

Professional, reputable, remaps certainly have their place, especially on a vehicle that has or will have an extensively modified engine. A remap will tailor a vehicle to an uprated turbo, FMIC, etc, far more effectively than a tuning system.

For the average driver who is looking for a safe upgrade that will provide power, economy and enhanced drivability, a DTUK tuning system is the way forward.

The majority of our systems can be fitted by the average customer in less than half an hour, many in 5-10 minutes. All come with full colour fitting instructions and first class telephone customer support. Be very wary of anyone who can 'flash' a remap to your car in that period of time as it is most likely a generic map downloaded off the internet and loaded from their laptop.

All our systems offer a range of adjustability not available with a remap or chip. As each vehicle is built to a manufacturing tolerance, no two are the same. The same is true of each driver. As such, adjustability is required so that the customer can tailor the system to their vehicle and driving style.

Many engines are shared between manufacturers, as are components and technologies. As such, most DTUK tuning systems are transferrable between a variety of vehicles, often only requiring a software change (free to existing customers) or a change of loom (charged at a trade price to existing customers). Alternatively, if nothing can be done to transfer an existing system to a new application, an existing customer can purchase a suitable system at a trade price.

DTUK tuning systems are well known across internet forums and popular auction sites. As such they command a healthy resale value should you choose to sell the system on when you change vehicle, whereas a remap or soldered chip would stay with the vehicle and your investment would be lost.

A remap or chip can also cause you issues should your vehicle visit a garage, dealership or be subject to a warranty repair or recall. Firstly, It is standard practice in many workshops to automatically perform a full software update on any modern vehicle that goes in for work. This update is highly likely to overwrite any aftermarket software (remap) installed on the vehicle. Secondly, the presence of a remap or the physical alterations (breaking the seal on a factory ECU, etc) required to install a chip will immediately invalidate any manufacturer or aftermarket warranty.

Pleasse can you confirm whether or not your modification would affect the manufactueres warranty. You say a chip would but as far as I understand you are not guaranteeing that your systems would not?

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Anything that increases timing and boost beyond the factory set limits will potentially void the drivetrain warranty afaik.

Anything that increases timing and boost beyond the factory set limits will potentially void the drivetrain warranty afaik.

That's my understanding as well. No way would I even remotely consider it whilst the car was under warranty. If anything goes wrong - you are on your own.

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Everyone is allowed an opinion, but in 8 years and well over 12,000 systems we've never had a customer have any issues with their new car warranty whilst using our systems .

Everyone is allowed an opinion, but in 8 years and well over 12,000 systems we've never had a customer have any issues with their new car warranty whilst using our systems .

So assuming I was to fit your system, I subsequently have an engine problem which may or may not have been caused by your system. Skoda refuse to fix the problem under warranty as the car has been modified by the installation of a non - Skoda approved piece of kit. Would your company pick up the bill?

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So assuming I was to fit your system, I subsequently have an engine problem which may or may not have been caused by your system. Skoda refuse to fix the problem under warranty as the car has been modified by the installation of a non - Skoda approved piece of kit. Would your company pick up the bill?

We have product liability insurance which covers the Uk, if you can prove that our system has caused the damage, then there is ground to make a claim against our insurance.

We have product liability insurance which covers the Uk, if you can prove that our system has caused the damage, then there is ground to make a claim against our insurance.

So the answer to my question is no, then. I know how strict VAG are on warranty issues and any non OEM kit fitted will cause them to walk away from any engine or drivetrain issue leaving the onus on the owner to prove that the non OEM kit did not cause the problem. If I needed more performance than the 150 bhp TDI CR engine I'd wait for the vRS. I would not, under any circumstances risk invalidating the warranty by fitting non OEM kit, however clever or reliable it might be.

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So the answer to my question is no, then. I know how strict VAG are on warranty issues and any non OEM kit fitted will cause them to walk away from any engine issue leaving the onus on the owner to prove that the non OEM kit did not cause the problem. If I needed more performance than the 150 bhp TDI CR engine I'd wait for the vRS. I would not, under any circumstances risk invalidating the warranty by fitting non OEM kit, and I don't believe anyone else should risk it either, sorry.

That's your opinion, and like everyone else you're entitled to it :) but unfortunately the majority of people are greedy, and they're always going to want more.

That's your opinion, and like everyone else you're entitled to it :) but unfortunately the majority of people are greedy, and they're always going to want more.

We'll agree to disagree then! You've admitted above that in the event of a warranty claim being denied, unless the owner could prove the fault was caused by your kit you would also walk away. Where does that leave him? Litigation? Cost of an independent engineer to prove / disprove then fight with Skoda? Life is too short for the risk of that kind of hassle.

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We'll agree to disagree then!

Exactly, the world would be a boring place if we all wanted the same thing :)

Exactly, the world would be a boring place if we all wanted the same thing :)

On that I will agree!!

FFS, hope shark performance get the same grief when they announce there chip for the same engine.

I think it's unfair to expect any tuner to indemnify owners where manufacturer warranty is withdrawn, and I suspect the liability insurance cover would only apply where the tuning box or remap malfunctioned causing the turbo to over boost and fail, for example.

I suspect if there was an engine problem the owner would either have to prove that the tuning box or remap malfunctioned, and claim against the tuner, or that the engine problem was unrelated to the tuning box or remap, and claim against the manufacturer.

Either would be difficult I think.

My thoughts are that as far as boxes go, Dtuk have a very good reputation, similarly Shark with remaps. I have had product from both on different cars and was happy with both, but wouldn't be so naive as to expect them to provide warranty cover in lieu of manufacturers warranty.

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