Doesn't bother me in the slightest - a round trip to London for me is 450 miles, and I can get 550ish out of a tank so don't need to fill up on the round trip.

 

As for the standard daily commute, 35 miles a day, 4 days a week. I just fill up if I have a long journey or if I am down to about 1/4 of a tank.

 

At then end of the day, the fuel economy would be worse if we had 70 or even 90 litre tanks due to the increased weight. 5 litres or about 50 miles range is neither here or there as far as I am concerned.

 

What journey is anyone planning of 500 miles plus where they do not have the opportunity to fill up?

 

I have Worcester to Glenrothes and back this week (about 650 miles) and it is best to plan carefully.  As I will use the Fabia VRS I need to plan to use Shell V-power or Tescos Momentum to get the best fuel consumption and one does not fill up on the rip-off prices on the Motorways so it is a bit of challenge where to fill up on such a journey and get the right fuel at the right price.

 

If the Octy 3 1.4 TSI DSG is the Fabia VRSs eventual replacement it should do more like 550 miles from a tank rather than the 450 miles I currently get but 650/700 would be nice with a proper sized tank like many other cars get.

You dont have to plan that carefully, have a look at http://www.mymotorworld.com/peterkeep1.5/

 

There are plenty of other resources to help you find decent places to eat and fuel up within 5 minutes of motorways

I was a bit disappointed with the smaller tank ok my Octavia 3! Approx £60 to fill up. Just means more stops at the garage! :-(

My old Passat is about £95 to fill up and would do about 700 miles!

I was a bit disappointed with the smaller tank ok my Octavia 3! Approx £60 to fill up. Just means more stops at the garage! :-(

My old Passat is about £95 to fill up and would do about 700 miles!

But did less to the gallon because you were lugging 4 weeks worth of fuel around with you :-)

You dont have to plan that carefully, have a look at http://www.mymotorworld.com/peterkeep1.5/

 

There are plenty of other resources to help you find decent places to eat and fuel up within 5 minutes of motorways

 

Sounds a good idea, the links to the various motorway routes listed on this website appear to have broken links but I will try and get this information when/if it starts working.  I should load up the Tesco and Shell stations in to my Satnav really.  One interesting aspect to me is that the low fuel warning comes on at a set amount left in the tank.  I think it is 7 litres on the Fabia and is 9 litres on the Mark 2 Octavia and I am wondering whether it is still 9 litres on the Octy 3? One might expect it to drop to 7 litres as the Octy 3 is suppose to be about 15-20% more economical.  Typical what range mileage does it say when the fuel light comes on? It is usually about 50 or 55 miles on the Fabia and Mk2 TSI VRSs but I think that has a margin on it as others on this site have said they have driven up to 20 miles even when it clicks over to zero miles.  Not recommended.

 

An interesting example of what is actually there.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_XJ_(X350)

 

"This Jaguar (XJ 2.7D) also featured in BBC 2's Top Gear, where it drove from Basel to Blackpool Tower on one tank of fuel. Despite the 650-mile (1,050 km) pre-defined range, Jeremy Clarkson, who was driving the car at the time, had actually driven 800 miles (1,300 km), and after examining the tank, had enough fuel to do another 120 miles (190 km), making its range about 1,000 miles (1,600 km). Clarkson then described the car as "astonishing" and "the second most economical car in the world", finishing just after Richard Hammond in a Polo."

 

Certainly the Fabia VRS will take 50 litres from nearly empty on the gauge using expansion gap filling and I think probably has about another gallon in the fuel loop but who wants to risk fuel pump cavitation.

 

51 litres seems to be the most reported filled in to the Mk3 Octy and questions if it can be vented to fill the expansion area before a long journey?   

There are other similar websites, try googling 5 minutes from the motorway

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Why do you run your cars to empty before refilling?,even new cars will have crap in the fueltanks,that will help clog the fuel filter,whats important in my view is compare the miles travelled and the litrage put in to get the mpg,

Why do you run your cars to empty before refilling?,even new cars will have crap in the fueltanks,that will help clog the fuel filter

Really? They go down the production line and there's someone throwing a handful of crap into the tanks on a checklist?

Anyway, the fuel pump picks up fuel from the bottom of the tank - it has to or you couldn't use all the fuel - so any contaminants will go through no matter how you run it down.

More a problem with older cars where rust from the inside of a steel tank settles to the bottom.

Are tanks even made of steel anymore, I thought for a long time they have been plastic?

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More a problem with older cars where rust from the inside of a steel tank settles to the bottom.

Are tanks even made of steel anymore, I thought for a long time they have been plastic?

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The fuel pump take-off is not normally at the very bottom of the tank but a centimeter or so above it to cope with crap, sugar and water etc that just may find its way in to the tank. 

The fuel pump take-off is not normally at the very bottom of the tank but a centimeter or so above it to cope with crap, sugar and water etc that just may find its way in to the tank. 

Not in a classic mini it isn't :-)

Not in a classic mini it isn't :-)

 

Proper mini you mean not the German knock off (mind you designer was a Turk).

 

Added my extra fuel filter to the mini fuel line and the adapted Marigold for the distributor (what is one of those the young'uns say?)

 

Had several Triumph sport six cars too, proper cars.

Yep proper mini - all kinds of crap used to come out of the bottom of the tank!

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No it isn't - not unless you note how much fuel you put in.

That's precisely what Fuelly is for!

Edited 10 November, 201312 yr by DavidF3911

If there was an option on the list for a bigger fuel tank, I would have definitely ticked that box. It is the number one thing I would change. I really am not keen on visiting filling stations, mainly due to the queues of people having done their flipping shopping in addition to the go juice.

Or do what I do and that's fill up either late at night or early in the morning! See there are some benefits to shift work! No queues, kids or the most dangerous of drivers....Women! 

Really? They go down the production line and there's someone throwing a handful of crap into the tanks on a checklist?

Anyway, the fuel pump picks up fuel from the bottom of the tank - it has to or you couldn't use all the fuel - so any contaminants will go through no matter how you run it down.

Really? They go down the production line and there's someone throwing a handful of crap into the tanks on a checklist?

Anyway, the fuel pump picks up fuel from the bottom of the tank - it has to or you couldn't use all the fuel - so any contaminants will go through no matter how you run it down.

you are very clever,contaminents enter the tank with the fuel,fuel breaks down into solids,fuel is generally sucked out of tanks inside of tanks have swirlpots to help minimise the pickup of contaminants and to maintain a suction head,but as the tank level falls this swirl brings more contaminants into the head,yes I believe a lot of fueltanks are metal,but most people gets my point,without a need to be clever

Really? They go down the production line and there's someone throwing a handful of crap into the tanks on a checklist?

Anyway, the fuel pump picks up fuel from the bottom of the tank - it has to or you couldn't use all the fuel - so any contaminants will go through no matter how you run it down.

you are very clever,contaminents enter the tank with the fuel,fuel breaks down into solids,fuel is generally sucked out of tanks inside of tanks have swirlpots to help minimise the pickup of contaminants and to maintain a suction head,but as the tank level falls this swirl brings more contaminants into the head,yes I believe a lot of fueltanks are metal,but most people gets my point,without a need to be clever

That's precisely what Fuelly is for!

 

What will Fuelly give me that I can't achieve via Excel and PowerPivot?

 

Genuine question?

A forum signature with your mpg for all the world to see lol

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Personally I would rather have a smaller tank and less weight (better economy). My S-Max has a HUGE (70litres, I think) fuel tank and I can often get £100 of diesel in it for less than 600miles! Glad I didn't go for the 2.5T. My old PD140 had the same range as the S-Max but to a smaller tank

 

I know it's not a like for like comparison but the range of a tank doesn't tell the whole story

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  I am surprised that DavidF3911 and others that mention Fuelly don't do that too.  Alternatives to Fuelly are avalable  

Edited 11 November, 201312 yr by Juniperz

.... whats important in my view is compare the miles travelled and the litrage put in to get the mpg,

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Exactly.  How simple does it have to be?

When we're talking about fuel consumption (as distinct from range, which is a totally different discussion) then mpg is the only thing which matters.

I am beginning to supect that some people waste their time burbling on about "miles per tankful" in a discussion about fuel consumption in order to cover up the fact that they are incapable of simpe arithmetic.

If (as is clear from posts earlier in this thread) there isn't even any consistency about how many litres there are per tankful then - if discussing fuel consumption - quoting miles per tankful is an utter waste of everyone's time.

If people can't be bothered to note, whenever they fill up, how many litres they put in as well as the mileage, why are they bothering to post in threads about fuel consumption?  If you don't care, fair enough, don't post.  If you do care, then measure it.  Simples.

 

 

Edited 11 November, 201312 yr by Stuarted

What will Fuelly give me that I can't achieve via Excel and PowerPivot?

 

Genuine question?

Just a widget for your forum signature and an App for Android or iPhone to make inputting the info and tracking the results easy. It is however a useful database for other potential buyers to use. It is basically a simple tool that almost anyone can use. Excel is great, but many people do not know how to use it.