Lights on all the time or off, with an indication on the dash or without I wouldn't think this an issue either, I find that the wipers and lights left on auto just do there thing! I am with Graham, if you don't know your lights are on without a warning light should you be behind the wheel?  

 

 

 

 However with regard to the OPS question, I would guess the light is in the dash and the function just needs activating with VCDS, you will need to find a local VCDS owner and the relevant item to change once connected. 

graham deux doigt mon ami - tram driving go ok?

Yes thanks. I'll get some photos up soon.

I was amazed when my dad told me his Golf mk VI did not have this green symbol in the rev counter.  I even took a pic of mine and sent it to him and told him he MUST be blind...  as it turns out the Golf (with 1,4 turbo engine) also does not have this and you have to look at the indicator next to the knob.  I look at this symbol a lot to just confirm the lights are on.  In three years the auto lights have NEVER been off when I had wanted them on so by now I should not need to look and trust them, but I like to have confirmation they are in fact on without having to look down at my knees.  

 

So Graham on a normal non auto light car yes you do not need to look as you KNOW you switched them on (or not).  But on an auto light car they do have a mind of their own (coming on if you do more than 83mph for a few minutes, with the sun setting behind you, etc, etc).

There is something else at work here too. "In the old days" the dashboard lights only worked when the lights were switched on. In modern cars the reverse seems to be true; so the old yardsticks no longer apply. Simply clever...

Yes thanks. I'll get some photos up soon.

Can't be bothered to take a few out, so here's the lot!!

http://s173.photobucket.com/user/Llanigraham/library/Seaton%20Tramway%20Aug%202013?sort=3&page=1

OK so the consensus is it doesn't light any more for the recent models in the instrument cluster. My wifes is the same. Question is, is it simply disabled such that with a bit of coding it can be switched back on? Personally I would prefer the light in the dashboard (where it's easy to see) than one by your knee. Anybody done the -re-enabling (if possible), and know the ins - and outs?

It is the one feature I dislike with TIBET III (FL). TIBETs I & II were pre-FL so had the 'headlights on dipped' warning light in the instrument cluster. 

 

I emailed ŠUK Customer Services asking why the feature had been deleted but haven't had a reply yet - but I only sent the email about 12 months ago.... Whether or not it was a Euro directive or what, I have no idea.

 

If there is a way to activate it would be good but I don't know of anyone who has done it.

 

And before anyone starts, yes, I know the light switch symbols illuminate to tell you what is happening but even they are not intuitive and happen to be hidden behind my right hand when it's on the steering wheel (as it normally is). One reason I don't rely on the 'auto' setting unless it is definitely dark (it might measure ambient light but it doesn't monitor ambient visibility...). 

Edited 20 December, 201510 yr by aerofurb

I very much it is anything to do with SUK. I am guessing the cars in Europe are exactly the same.

I very much it is anything to do with SUK. I am guessing the cars in Europe are exactly the same.

 

I wasn't implying it was ŠUK's doing - I was merely commenting that I had asked them this slightly technical question being responsible for the marque in the UK and I presume have a way of finding out the reason from the parent company.

 

Whether or not other European marques are similarly affected would demonstrate perhaps if it is a Skoda, VAG or European thing.

 

Sadly, I would probably have more luck getting an answer from emailing Škoda Auto in CZ than SUK.... Perhaps I'll try that approach. ŠUK Customer Services really don't do themselves any favours when it comes to Customer Services but that's another matter.

Edited 20 December, 201510 yr by aerofurb

Have the same with the V40, no idea if the auto lights are on or not, unless obviously its dark enough to see their pattern. Interior instrument lighting operates independently to the headlights, so it can be in daylight mode with the auto lights on. Would much prefer manufacturers include a instrument indicator light like in the days of old.

 

 

TP

 

Sadly, I would probably have more luck getting an answer from emailing Škoda Auto in CZ than SUK.... Perhaps I'll try that approach. ŠUK Customer Services really don't do themselves any favours when it comes to Customer Services but that's another matter.

I tried this a few years ago about the differences when tow bar prep is requested. I got a reply referring me back to VAG UK!

 

fred

I think you will all find it is impossible to code it back. The spot this used to be in has been replaced with a "Check engine" light if I'm not mistaken. Which all of you will know is a light that doesn't exist on the earlier Yetis. VAG cars have never had enough spots on the dash and on my Audi the "diesel glow plug" light came on when the brake pedal switch (invariably) went, looking quite innocent in doing so, but failing to tell you that you have NO brake lights whatsoever. The car had NO check engine light so you had to understand VAG "code" that when that came on outside of just starting the car, it actually meant something quite more serious.

Mine 2013 model had a dipped headlights light on the dash and my 2016 model doesn't.  And it is irritating that you can't glance down and see whether the auto headlights have come on or not.  Looking down and to the side is distracting and you have to shift your angle of view to do it and takes your eyes off the road.  

 

Good cabin design is about having important driving indicators right in front of your line of vision.  Arguing that you don't need them and that you're lazy or a bad driver because you find it inconvenient to have to hunt for them, is a bit like saying a fighter pilot doesn't need a head's up display.   Sure you can fly a fighter jet without one, but it's not quite as safe.  As for occasions when you need the light on the dash - it's for any occasion when the auto lights might come on, like going into a tunnel, or when lighting conditions change, or plain and simple, when you're not sure whether they're working or not.   And that's leaving aside the other occasions when the lights may come on unexpectedly, and unintentionally give a signal to another driver.  If your lights come on immediately after you pulled onto a motorway a bit close to the car in front, or just as you're approaching a pedestrian crossing and someone thinks you're telling them to step out into traffic, it's quite good to know that's what you've done. 

 

And for any driver new to the car, it's distracting - both myself and my partner went through a period of time when we noticed the light wasn't on, and got distracted by it.  Unnecessary.  

Steve my latest Yeti is nearly 4 weeks old to, and I have no dashboard indicator either? Unlike my previous 2010 model which did. I'll be mentioning this also to my dealer, very odd though??

All the latest ones are like that. I do miss the indicator light from previous cars.

Having to look down, particularly where the switch is positioned is not good.

What I tend to do is flick onto high beam to see if the blue light comes on. Have to be aware of other vehicles around though!

Edited 16 July, 20169 yr by VAGCF

I would much sooner have a light in easy line of sight than have to look down by right knee,,,,

Does anybody check the rear view mirrors regularly?

They are a lot further from the line of sight of the headlight switch and need a lot more attention than a cursory glance to see if the auto lights are on.
How often has anybody had to take the lights out of Auto and switch them on manually? Mine work very well even in fog.

At least with the mirrors they are close to the line of the windscreen and so when looking at them you can still see ahead with your peripheral vision.

So the nearside and offside mirror is more in the line of sight than the light switch and the information is easier to take in than seeing if a light is on or off.
My Yeti must be different to all others then. How often does the light switch need to be checked in comparison to the mirrors, at the most once a day.

You've answered it really!

We are all used to looking in the mirrors when driving and so it isn't a problem. The point I was trying to make is that you are only looking left and right so you still have vision ahead.

Looking down and round and seeing if a light is showing takes more attention away from looking forwards especially if not done that often.

Anyway, I'm not going to fall out over it!

A major difference when looking in a mirror vs looking at the light switch is that looking in a mirror means you are still focussing at a long distance whereas looking at the light switch means not only looking down and to the right (whilst also moving your right hand) but also focussing from the long distance to the near distance. It's only a fraction of a second but it all adds up to time looking away and eye fatigue, especially if your eyesight is not what it was.

I guess it is nothing to do with EU and more to do with fewer lamps and wiring.... €€€.

My Yeti has the lamp but my Audi A1 does not. Oddly I do prefer the lamp but often forget I have it in the Yeti and glance at the light switch anyway!

If you are setting off in a car and don't know whether your lights are on or off you have already demonstrated you aren't fully in control-just saying.

I think the question is more about have the lights come on when on Auto when

conditions have changed and lights are required?

No doubt you have a smart ars**ed answer for that!

Thanks for the smart arse comment I'm sure you are a nice fellow too.

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