Hello everyone need your help with something, my dad asked me to put the windows up so i went out to put them up i wasn't looking when i turn the key and it was in gear the car jump and hit the bay window the badge is bent and i cant get the bonnet catch to see if there is any more damage any tips yours could give me on getting it fix, the car is a fabia monte carlo 2011

Edited 29 September, 201312 yr by GaryC5

Hello everyone need your help with something, my dad asked me to put the windows up so i went out to put them up i wasn't looking when i turn the key and it was in gear the car jump and hit the bay window the badge is bent and i cant get the bonnet catch to see if there is any more damage any tips yours could give me on getting it fix, the car is a fabia monte carlo 2011

 

You do know holding the lock and unlock button on the fob closes/opens the windows don't you?

 

I was always taught by my old man first things first, make sure its in neutral.

have a look on superskoda.com - they have the little black arch bit what holds the badge and they have replacment badges.

 

thats if its the bit your on about.

 

Like above, holding the unlock button down will open all windows, holding the lock button with close all windows :-P

Hello, no the badge bit has bent into self, I try to get the bonnet open which i cant find the catch because off the badge thing now i can't even push my bonnet down to close it compactly any ideas how to get the bonnet open and to replace the upper grill part? 

Hello, no the badge bit has bent into self, I try to get the bonnet open which i cant find the catch because off the badge thing now i can't even push my bonnet down to close it compactly any ideas how to get the bonnet open and to replace the upper grill part? 

 

The upper grill is available from superskoda.com.

 

Cant help with getting it open all i can suggest is, the grill part that is broken, try pulling/prying it off to give you access, if its broken theres no point in going easy on it!  

 

p.s: dont you have to put your foot on the clutch to start the car aswell?? i do on mine!

Edited 29 September, 201312 yr by GLENT54321

This is the bonnet and the badge as it sits, any ideas what to do?? I havn't a clue

check the slam panel where the catch locates into is not bent (once you get the bonnet open) and if it is look carefully at radiator / aircon condenser

 

had a minor shunt in my old roomster <10 mph and it did a lot of damage to bonnet, slam panel, radiator etc, insurance class D it claiming repairs to have cost over £3000

 

be wary what starts as a simple grill problem "could" become more

those images give a better idea,

 

looks like the badge is stuck against lower grill, the actual bonnet looks ok

 

cant see hidden damage until you get the bonnet open and you can see the rest

Since that is already needing replaced, get a pry bar and bend it back out, then see from there. JMO.

Just without damaging the bonnet.

 

I accept no responsibility if you are handless, if you are, just leave it to someone that knows what they are doing to open it.

 

george

You have bent the bonnet behind the badge that is where the black part with the badge on has clips that press into the front of the bonnet

I thought all new cars from Skoda(VAG) that you need to depress the clutch fully before you can start the engine?

You'll need a bodyshop to fix that. I wouldnt attempt to straighten anything unless you are skilled at such things.

Expensive mistake.

Blame Dad for leaving it in gear/too close to bay window/was handbrake not on?

Does Dad know? And what does he say? Can't he suss what to do?

Don't need to depress clutch on mine - 2012 Monte (with 2011 badges...).

 

Do on my wife's Golf.

 

I figured the newer diesels carry over some of the stop start stuff, to keep the software the same in the MFD.

 

And having your handbrake on does not stop you jumping the car forward, but why turn it all the way to engine start, when you would only need to use the first click?  (having established he didn't know about the holding down the lock button).

 

And XMan, blaming your Dad for something you did, even if you could argue he never left it in gear any other time, never parked that close etc etc, sounds like something a weasel would do... ;-)

You should always depress the clutch before starting any car with manual gears. As the life of the starter motor can be reduced. As not depressing the clutch makes the starter motor turn the gearbox input shaft as well. So more work for the motor.

 

Like resting your hand on the gear stick whist driving as it wears the selector fork.

And XMan, blaming your Dad for something you did, even if you could argue he never left it in gear any other time, never parked that close etc etc, sounds like something a weasel would do... ;-)

 

So?

 

Look, I am old and was taught to park up in gear and handbrake on. And correct procedure way back then to start was, check handbrake on, check gears in neutral, clutch in and start. My kids however have been taught completely different. Nothing about checking gears or clutch in - they assume the car is parked in neutral. So - I've had this problem a few times. Fortunately no damage.

 

All of us are to blame. (More correctly modern driving schools are to blame).

 

You dont park up with the bonnet touching a wall in 1st gear and then cry when you/someone else forgets to check gear when starting. If it was in neutral (or reverse even) there wouldnt be a problem. If it was parked 2ft away - there probably wouldnt be a problem (although it could still be dangerous). If it had the latest VAG "depress clutch before starting" feauture - it wouldnt be a problem.

 

Why do you think VAG are incorporating this safety feature (along with many other manufacturers)? Because it is a problem that occurs often and can cause damage and injuries.

 

I feel for GaryC5 - its not ALL his fault!

 

But it is going to be expensive to fix , the bonnet is bent, maybe (probably) there is other damage - his dad may end up fixing it on insurance :think:

 

Hope GaryC5's Dad is reasonable and remains calm when he finds out - (I suspect he doesnt know yet!) - s*** happens sometimes.....

 

We all learn through mistakes - some of them costly.....

Edited 30 September, 201312 yr by xman

We all make mistakes and as xman says we learn from them.

 

My advice is drive to a bodyshop and if they're worth their salt they will open the bonnet for you and advise you as to what repair is required with an estimate. This way you will not risk further damage. Good luck.

So?

 

Look, I am old and was taught to park up in gear and handbrake on. And correct procedure way back then to start was, check handbrake on, check gears in neutral, clutch in and start. My kids however have been taught completely different. Nothing about checking gears or clutch in - they assume the car is parked in neutral. So - I've had this problem a few times. Fortunately no damage.

 

All of us are to blame. (More correctly modern driving schools are to blame).

Don't know why so many people don't check this to be honest, and on the point of the driving schools it just depends on what instructor you get I guess, the one I had said out of gear, clutch in etc.

no one has asked if you pulled the internal bonnet release catch yet? No disrespect, but if you are daft enough to (try) to start the engine, just to close the windows, whilst NOT checking for neutral first, perhaps you have forgotten this, too!

 

As for MODERN driving instructors, the advice is ALWAYS to check handbrake and gears, PRIOR to turning the key. Depressing the clutch is not always needed, follow the advice of the car manufacture. Old school instruction to park in gear... *******s! I have been driving for forty years, not needed unless on hills. Not gonna detail this as you should ALL know the proceedure if you passed your test! Only old down the pub bull shiners say that! old cars had rubbish handbrakes and old tired engines needed everyounce of power they could get from their weedy battery, dynamo and starter motors, hence clutch depress!

 

Also, not all Fabias can close windows with the remote but you can use the key, just lock and hold until they shut or unlock and hold until they open.

any update on the extent of the damage, was it just the badge and plastic?

Yeah sorry guys I hardly use a computer these days, played about with the grill bend it back abit got the bonnent open and close, lucky for me no other damage down to car everything is fine, just need upper grill replace need to get a dent pulled from the end where the badge sits thats all, waiting on quotes coming back, the car was parked close to the window because my driveway is really small there isnt enought room for leaving 2ft between the car and window, it was a mistake im sure half off yours done it in your time, as my dad said i was just unlucky to hit it where i did thanks for the help guys 

so pretty much only dented pride with little damage and minor plastics

 

very lucky

Hey Gary, don't beat yourself up about it mate. You are dead right, we've all done silly things at times, takes a man to admit it. At least you didn't come on here saying someone had run into you which many would have done   Good luck.

Yeah horkin, still can't believe it happened, but hey that's live, I'm only 20 so I defo learn from it, I was standing outside the car shouting at my mum not looking at the key to see half far I turn it, By the time it jump it was too late the damage is done, My dad isn't too worried about it he's done worst :P he said it himself, Sure if I done it I'll admit to it saw on ebay upper front grill part black for about 30 all in isn't too bad, my dad has a few stone chips on the bonnet my uncle said just get the whole bonnet sprayed, maybe get the few stone chips on the front bumper fix too while the bonnet getting done, just waiting on quotes coming back