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Depends mate, just oil filter and oil? All the filters? Belts? Mot included? Quick tap around? best thing is to see what your acctually getting, as many places will have diffrent views on what's included or considered "extras"

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IMO even £200 is perhaps a little on the steep side.

I use Ali at Unit 18, and he charges just under £150 for a full service with OEM / genuine parts. Not only that, but you also get the satisfaction that he knows what he's doing, which I believe is more important than the price you pay :)

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Strip the brakes and clean? Not heard that one on a full service before – maybe that's why it's so expensive. Do you really need the brakes stripping and cleaning? :S

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Strip the brakes and clean? Not heard that one on a full service before – maybe that's why it's so expensive. Do you really need the brakes stripping and cleaning? :S

I don't believe that this is even on the Skoda service schedule. 

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Strip the brakes and clean? Not heard that one on a full service before – maybe that's why it's so expensive. Do you really need the brakes stripping and cleaning? :S

my local garage charges around £150 for a full sevice & he always strips the brakes... id of thought that was standard on a full service but maybe cause that's what im used to

£200 seems a little steep for my liking

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An oil and filter change takes 10 minutes, while you wait for it to drain you can check your fluids. Brake strip on a service? It's a first for me but we're always learning. if you're doing it just for the stamp then it doesn't matter.

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As for parts oem spec is normally just as good as genuine,

Dan

 

I'm not sure what "oem spec is" but I've found most non genuine parts to be utter ****. TPS all the way for genuine parts, even more so since they are not a huge amount of money for service items. 

 

As for the "I've done it myself for £20/50p/2 old pence" there is a huge difference between servicing your own car and paying a garage to do it. It's like paying £15 for a meal in a nice restaurant then saying "I could have bought that chicken in tesco for £4" :D

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I see what your saying, but but also you could pay the £15 for a meal and it might not be too standard, and the homemade one could be delicious.

Alot of my reason to do it myself is that I know ive done it properly, I dont know how much care someone else might take with my car. Obviously a vag sspecialist or the like should do it right but my worry was if you take it to a non vag specialist whether they use the correct oil etc. Not saying everyone else should do this, but I chose to and the bonus was it didnt cost much.

I know a lot of people like full dealer service history, but does a stamp in the book prove your car has been looked afrer?

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Sorry Matt, i don't agree with none of that nonsense. Let's be serious here, what difference are you talking about? Who you think is going to do the oil change in your local VAG dealership? Is it the senior mechanic? Or is it one of the 6 or 7 spotty 17 year old's they took on fresh from college? Regardless whoever does is though, they won't be doing it any better than me because there's only one way to flush and change the oil out of an engine. And the same applies to the filters. They charge you 2 hrs of labour at the tune of something stupid like 85 quid an hour to do a 10 minute job. And the check list everyone seems to mention? Most of it is ticked without being looked at.

 

As for the OE vs OEM vs specialist parts... In 18 months of Fabia ownership i'm about to fit the 2nd set of genuine suspension bushes. Even though i was advised to bite the bullet and fit something solid, i voted for the genuine set and they lasted 10 months.

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I see what your saying, but but also you could pay the £15 for a meal and it might not be too standard, and the homemade one could be delicious.

Alot of my reason to do it myself is that I know ive done it properly, I dont know how much care someone else might take with my car. Obviously a vag sspecialist or the like should do it right but my worry was if you take it to a non vag specialist whether they use the correct oil etc. Not saying everyone else should do this, but I chose to and the bonus was it didnt cost much.

I know a lot of people like full dealer service history, but does a stamp in the book prove your car has been looked afrer?

 

I think you misunderstood me, I'm not knocking you for doing it yourself at all, fair play to you for doing it. I'm just saying you cant compare the cost factor of doing it on your drive VS getting a garage to do it as a commercial exercise. The feelings you have about worrying about you're car I totally understand that, it took me a fair while to find a garage who I felt comfortable leaving my car with knowing 100% it'd be in safe hands.  :thumbup:

 

Sorry Matt, i don't agree with none of that nonsense. Let's be serious here, what difference are you talking about? Who you think is going to do the oil change in your local VAG dealership? Is it the senior mechanic? Or is it one of the 6 or 7 spotty 17 year old's they took on fresh from college? Regardless whoever does is though, they won't be doing it any better than me because there's only one way to flush and change the oil out of an engine. And the same applies to the filters. They charge you 2 hrs of labour at the tune of something stupid like 85 quid an hour to do a 10 minute job. And the check list everyone seems to mention? Most of it is ticked without being looked at.

 

As for the OE vs OEM vs specialist parts... In 18 months of Fabia ownership i'm about to fit the 2nd set of genuine suspension bushes. Even though i was advised to bite the bullet and fit something solid, i voted for the genuine set and they lasted 10 months.

 

RE the first paragraph see my reply above. I'm not questioning you're capability as a mechanic at all, nor am I saying that dealers dont charge sometimes extortionate prices for things. £85 for something might sound "stupid" but when you take into account parts prices, wages, business rates, insurance etc etc it doesnt seem so excessive. 

 

As far as the parts go, cheap fuel pump failed after a year, discs and pads of **** quality, wearing and warping quickly, stuff like service parts dont cost much more at all so for the sake of a few quid for something as important as a oil/fuel/air filter I personally rather buy genuine parts. The bushes, sounds like you've been buying the old style ones if it's on a Fabia, buy the genuine revised bushes and you'd have been sorted. 

 

I seem ti gave the best of both worlds at Unit 18, only use genuine parts, does a stirling job and is very competitive on the price front to boot! 

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it does when it comes to selling it on

That may well be, but if personally if I was looking for a car, reciepts etc backed service history showimg car had been serviced with quantum platinum oil or a tick and stamp from lets say for example kwikfit who may just mass pump oil out of a tank I know which I would choose.

My car will be 10 years old plus when I come to sell it, so service stamps dont mean as much IMO

Matt, to be fair I did misunderstood what you were getting at and I agree that comparing to too cost wise is not relevant mate.

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I charge £70 + parts, most the time comes to around £120 depending what car.

That would include...

Oil (pd or long life)

Oil filter

Air filter

Fuel filter

Diagnostic check

On the ramp for a "health check"

All four wheels off and all brake components stripped and greased

Door locks and hinges oiled and greased

Antifreeze check

Screenwash

Engine bay vallet

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I think you misunderstood me, I'm not knocking you for doing it yourself at all, fair play to you for doing it. I'm just saying you cant compare the cost factor of doing it on your drive VS getting a garage to do it as a commercial exercise. The feelings you have about worrying about you're car I totally understand that, it took me a fair while to find a garage who I felt comfortable leaving my car with knowing 100% it'd be in safe hands.  :thumbup:

 

 

RE the first paragraph see my reply above. I'm not questioning you're capability as a mechanic at all, nor am I saying that dealers dont charge sometimes extortionate prices for things. £85 for something might sound "stupid" but when you take into account parts prices, wages, business rates, insurance etc etc it doesnt seem so excessive. 

 

As far as the parts go, cheap fuel pump failed after a year, discs and pads of **** quality, wearing and warping quickly, stuff like service parts dont cost much more at all so for the sake of a few quid for something as important as a oil/fuel/air filter I personally rather buy genuine parts. The bushes, sounds like you've been buying the old style ones if it's on a Fabia, buy the genuine revised bushes and you'd have been sorted. 

 

I seem ti gave the best of both worlds at Unit 18, only use genuine parts, does a stirling job and is very competitive on the price front to boot! 

When you get cheap parts it's quite obvious the quality won't be there otherwise everyone would be driving Dacias.... :rofl: still, you'd expect to see your OE equipment last a bit longer than that. This is fairly bad issue to me because even though i'm pretty confident with my spanners, it's not a 30 minute job and i haven't got loads of spare time atm. I have now bought a set of Cupra ones, these ones to be more specific but this time i'm not doing it, not with all this rain... :think:

 

side note: 85 quid an hour is a lot of money reagardless, that's how much Ford MK charge for getting an intern on £6.19/hr to work on it. I understand that they have a business to run but we don't have a business behind us.

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Strip the brakes and clean? Not heard that one on a full service before – maybe that's why it's so expensive. Do you really need the brakes stripping and cleaning? :S

Brakes tend to work better if the pads are free to slide, discs tend to wear more evenly and don't need replacing early due to a ring of rust on the inside braking face.

 

Yes, pads will seize in their carriers  and yes it isn't on any manufacturers schedule.  It's usually not on the schedule because the manufacturer wants to make their cars appear to be cheap to service and stripping brakes to clean/free them up adds time to the service whereas they can omit this to make the projected ownership costs more attractive and earn money on replacing more braking components.

 

We find that VW parts prices are very close to non VW parts prices and VW are now doing an economy range for some applications.  We can buy cambelt kits substantially cheaper from TPS than our local VW dealer can from VW.

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i would pay for my car to be checked by skoda, cost yes is a bit steep but with the health check carried out i will carryout myself,

yes sometimes they can add on that parts need changing and yes all apprentices start somewhere. TPS all the way, they supply skoda anyway.

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