Speeding tickets...AGAIN!

[harrysprout]

I got flashed by a mobile speed camera here in North Yorks. No fixed ones in this county. Was doing 35 in a 30 zone in Knaresborough. Annoying because I thought I was in a 40 zone, I actually saw the van.

Ticket on my doorstep a few days later. 100 Quid fine three point or AA drivetech cousre at 96 quid.

 

Booked myself onto the course. No points and £96. Can't say fairer than that. It's slowed me down as well.

[sworrall]

You wouldn't generally get a NIP for anything less than 34/35

youve not driven in north wales then? home of the hidden horse box speed cameras and regular NIP's for 31mph :( 

[InkedMuttley]

If you were trained to the same level as a police officer (which level? UBV, advanced, something else?) then you wouldn't have been driving a vehicle with a defective speedo.

Also "I was stopped because as I went around a corner I encountered massive understeer" doesn't sound like someone driving sensibly to police standards.

 

ROSPA Accredited, also have a BTEC. The reason I was driving a vehicle with a defective vehicle was because it's my only form of transport and I couldn't get the part, where needs must and all that. As for massive understeer it's on a 60mph road, and is a sweeping bend and it was in the wet...If you'd like to drive said 20-year old vehicle around the same bend, I'll happily pass you my keys and see if you can do any better.

[Ootohere]

Sometimes it is just time to stop digging.

[Llanigraham]

ROSPA Accredited, also have a BTEC.

 

Those aren't to Police standards.

[littleade]

I'm not quite sure how employing a solicitor is going to save your job TBH

 

Nor me but would be worth a try if you faced being out on your ear I guess

 

Just found out from the

 

 

 

Wrong...Just spoke to the Central Ticket Office and they've told me it was 35 I was doing and that does put me in the legal parameters to be offered a place on a driver improvement program to keep points off my license.

 

Breathing a *TINY* sigh of relief!

 based on the above it would seem you might benefit from attending one!

[Brimma]

youve not driven in north wales then? home of the hidden horse box speed cameras and regular NIP's for 31mph :(

I can't, I don't have a passport

[InkedMuttley]

Those aren't to Police standards.

 

I am the current holder of the IHCD D1 & D2 Edexcel BTEC Level 3 in ambulance emergency driving. The ROSPA course I went on before that was taught to me to police response standard by an ex-police officer...Question me all you like.

[Dr Zoidberg]

ROSPA Accredited, also have a BTEC. The reason I was driving a vehicle with a defective vehicle was because it's my only form of transport and I couldn't get the part, where needs must and all that. As for massive understeer it's on a 60mph road, and is a sweeping bend and it was in the wet...If you'd like to drive said 20-year old vehicle around the same bend, I'll happily pass you my keys and see if you can do any better.

Where to begin......

[Brimma]

Wrong...Just spoke to the Central Ticket Office and they've told me it was 35 I was doing and that does put me in the legal parameters to be offered a place on a driver improvement program to keep points off my license.

Breathing a *TINY* sigh of relief!

It isn't a legal parameter, it's a discretionary parameter, so could vary from area to area

Glad to hear you'll stay in employment though

[Dr Zoidberg]

Question me all you like.

Ok, what did they teach you about choosing an appropriate speed for the road, the conditions and your vehicle?

I'm pretty sure it doesn't involve trying to take a corner and getting massive understeer.

[InkedMuttley]

I didn't ask for my driving standards to be examined or to be told I'm a hooligan etc, the fact of the matter is I was slightly over the speed limit, pretty sure I'm not the only one that's done it.

 

The fact of the matter remains that all of you seem to think that because I asked for some advice that it somehow gives you Carte Blanché to put my driving in question, I have faith in my driving, my colleagues do and everyone else that has been in any of my cars knows that I can handle a car safely and responsibly.

[InkedMuttley]

It isn't a legal parameter, it's a discretionary parameter, so could vary from area to area

Glad to hear you'll stay in employment though

 

 

Cheers mate, at least someone doesn't seem to be taking potshots at me!

[KenONeill]

Ok, what did they teach you about choosing an appropriate speed for the road, the conditions and your vehicle?

I'm pretty sure it doesn't involve trying to take a corner and getting massive understeer.

Did they teach you anything about "making mistakes"? It's just that the only way you can have never made one is if you actually don't drive! 

[Dr Zoidberg]

I have faith in my driving, my colleagues do and everyone else that has been in any of my cars knows that I can handle a car safely and responsibly.

Apart from when you are speeding or sliding off the road?

[InkedMuttley]

Did they teach you anything about "making mistakes"? It's just that the only way you can have never made one is if you actually don't drive! 

 

Exactly my point, I made a mistake I admitted it, that's it over and done with in my eyes but Zoidberg clearly has a Napoleon complex.

 

Apart from when you are speeding or sliding off the road?

 

I was 5mph over I was hardly doing 77mph in a 30mph zone. And I didn't slide off the road, I encountered understeer if it was a younger driver with less experience then yes there's the possibility that they would have slid off the road, not me.

[Dr Zoidberg]

Did they teach you anything about "making mistakes"? It's just that the only way you can have never made one is if you actually don't drive!

On the contrary, I've made plenty of mistakes and realised that it was nobody else's fault but my own. I can still remember clearly the first time I took an island (know which one too, 20 years later) too fast in my first car and it taught me how much less grip I had in the wet.

[Dean-]

On the contrary, I've made plenty of mistakes and realised that it was nobody else's fault but my own. I can still remember clearly the first time I took an island (know which one too, 20 years later) too fast in my first car and it taught me how much less grip I had in the wet.

 

Ha... You and me both... Had a hairy moment round a roundabout going too quick.. Lets just say I wont be doing it again.

 

below is the slipperiest roundabout on planet earth when wet!

 

 

[KenONeill]

On the contrary, I've made plenty of mistakes and realised that it was nobody else's fault but my own. I can still remember clearly the first time I took an island (know which one too, 20 years later) too fast in my first car and it taught me how much less grip I had in the wet.

Who's claiming that anyone else is blaming a 3rd party for their mistakes? My point is that you're trying to claim a moral high ground that you're not entitled to over someone else admitting to making a mistake in a car they've only just bought. 

[KenONeill]

Ha... You and me both... Had a hairy moment round a roundabout going too quick.. Lets just say I wont be doing it again.

 

below is the slipperiest roundabout on planet earth when wet!

 

HD6 1UE - Google Maps - Google Chrome.jpg

 

 I can see why too, with all those surface changes and no visible camber or drainage!

[essexocty]

Those aren't to Police standards.

No they are most definitely not,

this is a bizzare thread. Should be titled "I've done wrong but would quite like to get away with it!"

And as for handing the keys over to someone else. Maybe they would realise the vehicle and conditions and take this into account before encountering "massive under steer"

If I was you I'd lock this before it gets any worse

[mdon]

I am the current holder of the IHCD D1 & D2 Edexcel BTEC Level 3 in ambulance emergency driving. The ROSPA course I went on before that was taught to me to police response standard by an ex-police officer...Question me all you like.

I'm not getting into the whole you did wrong argument but just like to point out IAM and ROSPA are well below the standards of even a standard police driver (standard means a response bobby in a panda car level) even ambulance and rapid fire appliance driving courses fall short.

[Llanigraham]

Quote:

Edexcel / IHCD Ambulance Combined Driver Training Programme (D1+D2)

The D1 is the first five days and qualfies you to drive ambulance vehicles on non-emergency duties, such as patient transport.

The D2 follows on from the D1, which you must achieve first. It focuses on the advanced driving techniques required to drive ambulance vehicles on emergency duties whilst claiming exemptions to road traffic law, so-called "blue light driving". It takes a further 10 days.

 

Sounds like the same Course that St John does, and the modern equivalent of what I did some years ago.

[FUBAR]

Not too sure yet I haven't actually got the NIP in my possession yet, I was contacted by the seller for my address so they could forward the NIP onto me.

 

 

They should not forward it to you, the last registered keeper as it arrived in their name is responsible to name the driver at the date and time specified on it. As they cannot do this, they should return it explaining they sold it on the date they did. Then you will get your very own shiny new one in the post. Why it has been sent to the previous keeper if you have been down as the registered keeper since before this date is possibly due to something along the lines of the Police force or camera trust concerned perhaps not having real time information from the DVLA but periodically updated database (only a theory, can't see how or why it would be like that though).

 

I don't like the way this thread has spiralled into a bit of a flaming session and I don't want to add to it......... 

 

But I will :p

 

You can't expect anything less than the responses there have been with the admissions you have made. As I see it you have above and beyond normal DSA driving test, gained further training and qualifications specifically in the medical response side of driving. With regards to the defective speedomoter, the prospect of a child running out and you being a few mph over the posted limit could make the difference between stopping in time or taking a life, this is why we have imposed speed limits (the inability to correctly judge the speed of vehicle seems to have been proven by speed camera). The vehicle to be found in a defective state with regards to your speedometer will not result in the possibility of a FPN and a fine, but ultimately a custodial sentence should the worst happen. "My only means of transport" or "didn't have the right part" would not go very far with a jury of your peers or the parents of a dead child. Take this thread constructively as a jury of your peers, essentially that is exactly what it is and who we all are.

 

Additionally 'IF' anything serious were ever to happen, having a timeline of how long it is/was defective posted openly on a public forum you can bet will be used against you in this day and age. 

 

Not saying the above to be a tool, just genuinely would like to make sure you are aware of why it is an offence to operate a motor vehicle with a defective speedometer. Not worth the risk and offering any excuses will only be like a red flag to a bull to anyone else, as you can see in here. Don't take it as national flame InkedMuttley day. 

 

If that NIP has been forwarded to you now and you have received it, just call the number on it and explain the set up with the dates and it being forwarded to you and seek their advice on what to do with it. Person it is addressed to in error or not should respond to it themselves not post it on. 

[Brimma]

 

If that NIP has been forwarded to you now and you have received it, just call the number on it and explain the set up with the dates and it being forwarded to you and seek their advice on what to do with it. Person it is addressed to in error or not should respond to it themselves not post it on. 

 

 

Spot on...........do not complete a form which has been addressed to someone else, contact the CTO (Central Ticket Office) for the area and seek their advice