hi all

 

just bought my first octavia 2.0 TDI with DSG box.  drove back from york with no issues.  after a little round town driving the dreaded 'flash of death' started on the display!!

 

i have noticed that ECU Testing on here repair/replace these but only for AUDI/VW units.

 

do SKODA use their own DSG's or use one made by AUDI/VW and how do i check?

 

all comments appreciated

 

thanks

bruce

Given VAG's latest philosophy of transferability, I'd hazard a guess that it's a shared component but could be manufactured in different plants to keep up with demand. There should be a gearbox code on the box itself, or possibly on the VIN.

The front wheel drive DSG transmissions are all the same across the whole VAG group. They are all built in VW's Kassel plant in Germany and are used in Skoda, VW, Seat and Audi's (where they are called S tronic). So your VW specialist will have no trouble working on it. 

 

These days the whole VAG setup is a very cleaver marketing exercise, whereby they built four mechanically identical cars, put different body panels on them and call them VW, Audi, Seat and Skoda.....pitch them at different sectors of the market and make a lot of money doing so.

 

In the case of the Mk2 Octavia, you can interchange nearly all the parts with a Mk5 Golf or Audi A3.   

The Hyundai/Kia group also have started using them. VAG didn't create the DSG, BorgWarner did and have licensed them to them too.

Does  the DSG or duel clutch box go back to the Fifties, John Deere tractors spring to mind

[i apologise for the nitpicking and going off-topic, but I hope posters won't be upset by a reminder that it is a dual (twin, as in duo, as distinct from solo - same as a dual carriageway) clutch system, not a duel system, which always makes me think of pistols-at-dawn or man waving swords around!]

Wenker 

The Hyundai/Kia group also have started using them. VAG didn't create the DSG, BorgWarner did and have licensed them to them too.

I wish I had come over this thread a year ago, since then Borgwarners share price has doubled. Im going to run my slide rule over their figures. I really think DSG is catching on and Im guessing the technology is advanced enough to prevent the Chines copying

The Hyundai/Kia group also have started using them. VAG didn't create the DSG, BorgWarner did and have licensed them to them too.

Now a Kia Optima fully specced with a DSG box would be worth a look!!!!!

They're labelled as DCT. It also looks like the common rail diesel system is by Bosch. Welcome to the world of the omnicar, pick your favourite badge and colour

Been reading Brit auto magazines & Briskoda for some time for comments on the DSG in the U.K. & Europe. They've coped heaps of poor reviews & complaints in Australia about their performance & (non) reliability. Motoring scribblers & owners complain about DSGs getting "confused" in stop-start traffic & baulking at take-offs plus total break downs. Some owners are reporting that their DSGs AND engines have had to be replaced, some as many as 3 TIMES!!

Problems affecting both diesels & petrols, Golfs, Passats etc. So much so, many are expressing concern about buying VW products. Must admit, I'm holding out for the vRS as it's reported that as well as DSG boxes, we'll be getting MANUALs which is what I'll be holding out for.

Been reading Brit auto magazines & Briskoda for some time for comments on the DSG in the U.K. & Europe. They've coped heaps of poor reviews & complaints in Australia about their performance & (non) reliability. Motoring scribblers & owners complain about DSGs getting "confused" in stop-start traffic & baulking at take-offs plus total break downs. Some owners are reporting that their DSGs AND engines have had to be replaced, some as many as 3 TIMES!! Problems affecting both diesels & petrols, Golfs, Passats etc. So much so, many are expressing concern about buying VW products. Must admit, I'm holding out for the vRS as it's reported that as well as DSG boxes, we'll be getting MANUALs which is what I'll be holding out for.

 

You only ever hear of the problems/failures. The DSG has proven itself to be a very reliable gearbox, I am sure if you where to find out how many VAG have manufactured and sold and compare that to the warranty figures, you might be surprised.

 

Mine has 620,000kms on it and my car was remapped after I put a couple of thousand kms on it from new.(approx. 400nm of torque)

 

Just sayin' don't rule it out until you have tried it !!

You only ever hear of the problems/failures. The DSG has proven itself to be a very reliable gearbox, I am sure if you where to find out how many VAG have manufactured and sold and compare that to the warranty figures, you might be surprised.

Mine has 620,000kms on it and my car was remapped after I put a couple of thousand kms on it from new.(approx. 400nm of torque)

Just sayin' don't rule it out until you have tried it !!

How many manual gearbox problems so you hear about?

I have tried it and would never buy one. The shift confusion, higher fuel consumption and potential money bomb were enough reason alone, but quite terrifying combined.

How many manual gearbox problems so you hear about?

I have tried it and would never buy one. The shift confusion, higher fuel consumption and potential money bomb were enough reason alone, but quite terrifying combined.

I have a friend who owns and runs Dublin Clutch & Gearbox, manual gearbox's fail and give trouble all the time, it's just taken for granted so people don't really crib on owners forums about it.

The shift confusion is something that happens extremely rarely and is something that you learn to avoid with throttle control after a very short period of ownership.

 

anyway, horses for coarses I suppose.

quite terrifying combined.

 

Perhaps slightly over dramatising the situation!

 

To a degree, that's cars for you. You could argue the Haldex unit on 4x4 models are just as terrifying......if that baby flies apart it'll cost.....the engine is pretty frightening too.....if that blows it'll cost you big.