SImple (stupid) question - can anyone confirm?

 

cheers

JAmes

No it doesn't. It continues to maintain speed when you change gear though which is useful as my civic never did that.

You have to manually break occasionally if going down a steep decline but generally the car eases off the throttle without it exceeding the set speed

Edited 7 February, 201412 yr by Lamboluke

I believe the adaptive cruise control does but that's an option. Or rather was.

ACC does basic CC doesn't

Edited 7 February, 201412 yr by TonyD

Cheers folks.

 

Seems a bit of a ball drop when most CC these days will brake also - especially when the ACC has been whipped off the options list!

 

Might have to put a few quid aside for those annoying average cameras covering Nottingham :(

I'm sorry but I don't understand, why would you ever want a cruise control to brake?

 

Do you mean as in when you arrive at an area with slower speed limit, you want to dial down the cc speed value and you want the car to actually brake? Why is that good?

 

 

(I'm oviously not talking about radar-guided acc.)

I'm not sure if the Octavia has it (like some other manufacturers) bit I've found a speed limiter function better than speed-maintaining cruise control, especially through average speed camera sections.

I'm sorry but I don't understand, why would you ever want a cruise control to brake?

 

I think people are referring to when you are on a downhill section, where the car will pick up speed even if you don't have your foot on the accelerator.

I think people are referring to when you are on a downhill section, where the car will pick up speed even if you don't have your foot on the accelerator.

Oh. Well I can't for the life of me envision a situation where I'd want my cruise control to brake.

In a downhill situation I'd be very happy to switch down to a lower gear if necessary (which doesn't disengage the Octy's cc - amazing!) or work the brake myself (which does). The cc should work purely with throttle.

 

Are there really cruise control units that brake? Does that mean that when you overtake somebody, exceeding your stored speed, and then fall back to your cruise control, it will brake in front of the vehicle you overtook? That would be fantastically stupid.

Regular CC will maintain a set speed even on a downhill slope, by reducing the engine speed. It will disengage if the engine speed is low enough to get close to stalling the engine. I thought everybody knew this... hmm, maybe not.

 

It's an identical operating mode as to the opposite, when going uphill the CC will increase the revs to maintain the set speed.

I think the braking thing is more so you don't inadvertently not notice the car in front and plough straight into the back of it. Only on AAC though.  

 

Needless to say, I spent £150 on CC rather than the fooked-if-I-can-remember-how-much on the ACC option seeing as I don't plan to ram anyone due to being a complete knob-head who doesn't look where he's going .

I think the braking thing is more so you don't inadvertently not notice the car in front and plough straight into the back of it. Only on AAC though.  

 

Needless to say, I spent £150 on CC rather than the fooked-if-I-can-remember-how-much on the ACC option seeing as I don't plan to ram anyone due to being a complete knob-head who doesn't look where he's going .

 

Nope the brake thing is to maintain a set speed up and down hills. My current car has it and it's far better than CC alone.

 

Remember, a lot of camera's are at the bottom of hills.

No, the braking on the ACC is not for going up and downhill... lol. The standard CC does that already, like I mentioned just 2 posts above. The standard CC DOES NOT USE THE BRAKES!

Edited 7 February, 201412 yr by TudorM

i have standard CC on mine and providing i have selected the correct gear for the gradient then the CC keeps the speed spot on, no need for brakes.

Regular CC will maintain a set speed even on a downhill slope, by reducing the engine speed. It will disengage if the engine speed is low enough to get close to stalling the engine. I thought everybody knew this... hmm, maybe not.

That's clear as day but that was not the question. Several people implied that it's normal for cc to brake to reduce speed (and not talking about acc and radars). I'm still intrigued, is that the case in some other cars? I've never used such a cruise control and it sounds like such a bad implementation.

What does "other cars" mean exactly? I haven't heard of similar technology from other brands doing it and if they do, it isn't really relevant to the Octavia 3 is it?

No other cruise control systems apply brakes to maintain speed, adaptive cruise control systems can, but cruise control doesn't, no matter the car manufacturer.

There is a section of road on the A616 between Stocksbridge and the M1 at J35, it has average speed cameras, 60 mph limit and a steep downhill section. If I set my bog standard CC to 60 in 6th gear, by the time I get to the bottom of the hill, I'd be doing over 70 unless I dab the brakes a few times, or change down to 5th gear but then the eco tips tell me to change straight back to 6th! Ideally, the CC should slow the car to maintain 60 but as the hill is too steep, the weight of the car is too much for the engine braking so gravity takes over and the car speeds up, I'd prefer it if I didn't have to dab the brakes, but that's just my opinion!

I had a BMW 5 series and if you kept your finger on the decelerate steering wheel controls the car would apply the brakes, also if going down a steep hill the car would also brake to maintain the speed, brake lights and everything.

 

 

 It was a clever system, to be fair.

Depending in how old that car was it was NOT cruise control, but dynamic cruise control which is a standard system PLUS brake control. It hasn't got the radar of adaptive CC. However, it is not standard cruise control as fitted by car manufacturers, so you needs I be sure to compare the same systems, which presently you aren't.

With ACC it will brake for you and hold speed. You can also use the 'stick' (to set speed) and it works on 10 km/h increments so that you just push down a couple of times coming out of say a 120 into an 80 limit, 4 taps down and it will auto brake (with rear lights etc) until 80 is reached. Obviously you reverse tht as you get back into the 120 zone!! 

I seem I remember ACC does it, to 0 Kph if DSG and to 30 Kph, if manual.

Wow, wasn't expecting such a response to this one but sounds like te octy CC doesn't brake when the speed exceeds that set.

Just for those that think CC is only power control, all German mile munchers have CC with brake, and this isn't the same as ACC. As James said, it will slow the car when it creeps about the set speed downhill (usually).

It's a bit of an shallow essential for me so another point goes in the F11 choice box!

Thanks for all the replies folks.

cruise control = lazy drivers

cruise control = lazy drivers

 

Insulting people isn't going to do you any favours on here.