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If you have a Greenline expect around 65mpg tops if the conditions are right, these dillusional threads of 80+ mpg out of a 2 ton car are insulting to intelligent lifeforms imo.

If you have a Greenline expect around 65mpg tops if the conditions are right, these dillusional threads of 80+ mpg out of a 2 ton car are insulting to intelligent lifeforms imo

 

Read this, it shows what this engine is capable of http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/about-us/news/259

Last week on a trip to Manchester i achieve 74.9 smiles per Gallon, on my last car Octavia Est Se, i managed 90.5 so the challenge is on, slowly slowly catchy monkey.

 

That's not motoring; that's mobile catatonia.

Even subtracting the 10% or so that the trip computer usually overstates the fuel economy by, these are still great figures. A brim to brim test is the only way to be sure your trip computer isn't lying to you though as this varies from car to car. 

 

The Passat in the article above has a huge fuel tank - the Superb's is only 65 litres AFAIK rather than 77, so 18% bigger, which definitely helps with mileage between refills records. I wonder whether the AA van following them for the record was carrying the spare tyre :p... 

 

I've seen almost 1000 km (~620 miles) from a tank of fuel in my 170 bhp diesel and I enjoy making use of the power available when I get the chance too. I'd do way better on fuel if I just sat behind a truck at 50 mph all the time (Or less if the truck is stuck behind a doddering Toyota, my most hated feature of Irish A roads), but I'm happy to pay in fuel to take time off my journeys...

Edited by psycholist

Read this, it shows what this engine is capable of http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/about-us/news/259

 

 

That test was on an open circuit with no traffic to contend with at a constant 50mph I suspect, probably no spare wheel, back seat or door cards, Lester Piggott driving it,

 

I watched a doc the other week, the real ppl who test say claimed figures are 22% off the mark, they also said that cars got stripped for the tests and also the shut lines were taped up as well,

 

Like I said in the original picture reply from me,

 

This comes down to 3 things,

 

1 owner is a liar or a one upmanshipper

 

2 the maxidot said so but the reality is different

 

3 owner deludes himself

 

 

2 ton cars do not do 70+ to the gallon and VAG are well known liars anyway, if they can tell you a white one to get your money they will, the only way they might is if you started at the top of a mountain and coasted down with the engine off, then you might get that sort of figure, sadly it's things like this that lead to a lot of owners booking their car in as faulty when there is no fault only misleading info they read on the net,

 

I had one do it to me, Vx Cavalier 2.5 automatic, 28mpg urban according to him, I buy the Omega on the strength of it and end up with 2.5 years of 15-17mpg, so pardon me when I see this sort of thread, it's more important to me to not create a picture that doesn't exist and if you'd spent 30 year working with the Billy Liar gang you'd know why.

 

 

EDIT,

 

Nope it was done in France says the article, it had some in town work as well, aka passed through a village, they ran it out so that means as well as the tank you'll have the filters to fill and I suspect it will have been filled back up but not allowed the froth to settle, tbh the minute it hit any city the mpg would be heading down, no way is this an orderable at the dealer car they tested, I expect the ecu was programmed for max economy and the BHP cut to 60 or something silly like that.

Edited by Supurbia

Supurbia, why don't you read my link that explains my mpg is done over several months at a time, my car is fitted with a Quartix, and in turn my company fuel card is linked through the computer system at work which shows exactly how many miles and how much fuel I have used so giving an exact mpg over several thousand miles and months - it doesn't lie. These are actual figures, no theory, no pie in the sky, just simple hard facts. 

 

I can see from your post above you didn't read the article at all before posting and you cannot seem to accept some peoples driving styles can give extraordinary figures in the right circumstances. Of course the ECU is programmed for max economy, that's why they call it the Bluemotion model, or Greenline in Skoda's case. My car does have door cards, I do have a spare wheel, and I'm not built like Lester Piggott, and I don't drive around an open circuit, unless you class the M25 as an open circuit along with the other UK motorway network system. 

 

Which model Superb do you have?. No, I didn't think so. Listen to those of us who actually own one.

 

If you have nothing positive, factual or helpful to bring to this or any other post please don't bother posting.

That's sorted then. Now I realise i am a pretentious, gullible, self deluded liar.

Made my day!

My tank holds I thought 60 litres? I regularly get 650 miles per tank and quite often 700 miles on a tank of diesel going to and from work, as was mentioned we all have different driving styles and I think one of the biggest indicators of style will be. How long a set of brake pads last? Well in my eyes anyway he he he (no emnicons).

Well lets use Dannys figures,

 

13 gallon tank,

 

600 miles = 46mpg

 

700 miles = 53mpg

 

Long way off 70-80-90mpg isn't it even allowing for his being a 2.0? or having a bit of a heavier foot,

 

All this drive like a feather is another trip up, that Omega I mentioned, once I'd known what a rickett I'd made buying it I thought lets try driving it gently, so I tippy toed round all night and got 1mpg more than hoofing it, it actually sometimes would return better hoofing it which I can only think was down to it hitting a higher gear quicker,

 

For those that want to look and use fuel card records etc that is not the way to do it, you need the same gas pump same ambient temperature and brimmed until you can see the derv in the fuel neck each time to get accurate records and I still stand by 60-65mpg tops as a realistic figure for the 1.6TDi, it might do better in a Rapid but not in a 8 year old tank design.

I would like to add that I only ever at a max get 56-57 litres in at any time. As they say every little helps.

Again no emnicons. He he he.

I once ran a test to see what the most mpg I could extract from the car was. I reset the gauge as I was driving down a slip road (jn3 of the M3) and was sitting at just over 100mpg the whole way to the Winchester exit (about 30 miles). It dropped to 96mpg at the very end.

 

However, I was cheating a little as I was slip-streaming trucks nearly the whole way which made a big difference. Tyres matter too as I'm running winters at the moment and mpg is suffering badly due to higher rolling resistance. The low temperatures are a significant contributing point too.

What car is Danny57 running? Is it a Greenline or that 2litre shown on his profile?

What car is Danny57 running? Is it a Greenline or that 2litre shown on his profile?

 

 

Ok Dans is a 2.0 which is 400cc more than a greenline, but has a better power to weight ratio than the 1600cc engine, power to weight is crucial, not a lot of folks actually understand it properly but in simple terms a 2.0 will be cruising a lower rpm than a 1.6 at the same speed, less revolutions which means while the 1.6 is fighting to get the body going the 2.0 has already done it and is sitting on lower rpms,

 

 Edited out rest of post (NO NEED FOR THAT SORT OF ATTITUDE - WIND YOUR NECK IN PLEASE!)

Edited by devonutopia

Ok Dans is a 2.0 which is 400cc more than a greenline, but has a better power to weight ratio than the 1600cc engine, power to weight is crucial, not a lot of folks actually understand it properly but in simple terms a 2.0 will be cruising a lower rpm than a 1.6 at the same speed, less revolutions which means while the 1.6 is fighting to get the body going the 2.0 has already done it and is sitting on lower rpms,

 

 Edited out rest of post (NO NEED FOR THAT SORT OF ATTITUDE - WIND YOUR NECK IN PLEASE!)

Thankyou. So it is not a Greenline then.

Ok Devon sorry about that,

 

@ Kev,

 

No not a Greenline but he's posted realistic figures that even allowing for 400cc more and the PTWR would looking at it in % be 60-65mpg allowing for the 400cc difference, there is also a thread here where the user had a 1.6 Rapid and quoted it at 60mpg, you do recognise the Rapid is a whole lot lighter than a Superb and more aerodynamic as well don't you,

 

I'll sum it up in the most respectable way I can for future readers,

 

If you buy a Greenline expecting 70+ mpg you are going to be feeling let down, for a car this size being hauled by a mini derv engine anything over 60 mpg is outstanding imo, also remember you will be fighting the car all day in the first 3 gears and will have like the old 1.9 PD not a lot under foot in the mid range when you need to grunt on by from 60mph on the motorway,  so if you want a good experience buy the 2.0 because there has always been a rule of thumb about cars both petrol and derv that anything under a 2.0 will either lack at the pedal or get tired very quickly and nothing has changed in this size of car imo, that's about as far as I can civilly put it.

Ok Devon sorry about that,

 

@ Kev,

 

No not a Greenline but he's posted realistic figures that even allowing for 400cc more and the PTWR would looking at it in % be 60-65mpg allowing for the 400cc difference, there is also a thread here where the user had a 1.6 Rapid and quoted it at 60mpg, you do recognise the Rapid is a whole lot lighter than a Superb and more aerodynamic as well don't you,

 

I'll sum it up in the most respectable way I can for future readers,

 

If you buy a Greenline expecting 70+ mpg you are going to be feeling let down, for a car this size being hauled by a mini derv engine anything over 60 mpg is outstanding imo, also remember you will be fighting the car all day in the first 3 gears and will have like the old 1.9 PD not a lot under foot in the mid range when you need to grunt on by from 60mph on the motorway,  so if you want a good experience buy the 2.0 because there has always been a rule of thumb about cars both petrol and derv that anything under a 2.0 will either lack at the pedal or get tired very quickly and nothing has changed in this size of car imo, that's about as far as I can civilly put it.

Ok. Let us leave it at that.

Have a good day.

This is a good site for realistic fuel consumption. Its in l/100km though so you need to convert.

 

http://www.spritmonitor.de/en/overview/45-Skoda/400-Superb.html?fueltype=1&fuelsort=1&constyear_s=2012&constyear_e=2014&power_s=104&power_e=106&exactmodel=greenline&sort=1&powerunit=2

 

https://www.unitjuggler.com/convert-fuelconsumption-from-lper100km-to-mpgimperial.html?val=5.5

 

Looks like most are getting 51 to 56.5 mpg.

 

My gf has a 1.6 TDi Rapid Spaceback and I managed 58mpg (calculated, computer said 64) with that on a brisk B road cross country run so 60+ achievable with more restraint than I can be bothered with. This is a light car though and geared at about 35mph / 1000 rpm in top. Higher than my 2.0  Superb!

Edited by scottalej

I'm sure veloplus won't mind me posting this, but I know he is running a Greenline Superb and if you click the link below you'll see his fuel stats generated from brim to brim refills:

 

http://www.fuelly.com/car/skoda/superb/2011/veloplus/95785

 

Average of 64.4 MPG with a best of 73 MPG.

Coops unless I'm reading the link wrong it says his best was 60mpg and his average 53mpg which I would say is about correct?

Coops unless I'm reading the link wrong it says his best was 60mpg and his average 53mpg which I would say is about correct?

Threw me as well until I realised that those are calculations for US Gallons - for UK change the Units drop-down in the top left corner.

Thx BJM

 

The thing that these things don't take into account is the pump and the gravity temps of the fuel in the ground,

 

You can fill at one pump and the click will arrive faster than at another, there is also the froth factor, lots of froth filling an empty tank will lead you to believe you got a better figure than you actually did unless you allow it to settle and do brim to brim and I suspect that wasn't on Velos mind to do each time, you'll notice that there is a dip to sub 30's in a couple of the months, I'd assume that was lots of urban journeys though and this is particularly bad as during those summer months the fuel would be expanded so he's actually arriving at a full tank faster than in winter,

 

To me that says his real figures would be close to 55-65 which I would also say are attainable under the right conditions but not for everyone, so those insisting they get 70 mpg going round the M25 and up the M1 during rush hours behave wiill you,

 

A side bet would say the 73mpg figure was due to using different garages with different speed running pumps, i.e filled up on a slow pump and refilled on a fast one creating more froth, if you allow the froth to settle and re-top up you'll get near £3 of fuel in there after the first click.

Brim to brim required for exact mpg. Again, as mentioned I'm between 55 and 59 depending on a number of factors. The maxi regularly has me about 60 (Dream on).

Been doing the same 130 mile round-trip commute, every weekday, for 8 years now. I go to the same petrol station to refill. Gotta love those points.

Been doing it in the GreenLine for 3 years. Each time I refill it gets brimmed and the odometer gets reset.

Summertime range - taking it real easy for a week, I get 775 - 800 miles between refills. If pressing on, with no mind to economy, it's 725 miles upwards.

Wintertime range - here there's not as much opportunity to sit at 60mph for an hour at a time. Plus there's other factors, so weekly range is around 700 miles.

I regularly refill when just above the empty line and 54 litres goes back in. Summer or winter, sunshine or snow.

@Superbia

You do the maths.

The title of this thread is 'GreenLine MPG challenge! Can you beat the record.' The figures posted represent the best we can get. No point getting your knickers in a twist and mouthing off at everyone (to the extent that input from the mods was required) that it doesn't represent the average. I just guess some are the first to lose their heads while others are not.

My Greenline has covered 72,000 miles from new. It's still on its original tyres. The rears will probably last to 120k plus. Still on original discs and pads. The GreenLine is a remarkable car.

If I can get five minutes, and if I can be arsed wasting the time, I'll explain to Supurbia the science as to why a heavy car moving at a constant 60mph for an hour can achieve high mpgs.

Edited by Jules Tohpipi

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