Having spent the last couple of weeks intensively helping my Dad find a replacement car ive come to actually like the DSG way of life. - He's just bought a Superb Estate 170 Diesel DSG L&K, cracking car.

 

Ideally I would like a Superb estate but its beyond my budget ATM.

 

So i'm thinking of selling my stage 3 modified hatch for a diesel estate vrs dsg.

 

 

Am I going mad or am I just getting old?

 

 

Or shall I just keep my car and buy a newish bike instead? (I'm liking the look of an ER6N)

 

PLEASE HELP ME

I changed to the DSG about a year ago and I don't think I want to go back to a manual with the amount of miles I cover in a year.

I don't believe for one minute that you are going mad, but like the rest of us you are getting old. 

I traded in my dream car (a Honda S2000 GT) just under two weeks ago for a 2011 DSG Octavia Estate. It's even got a tow bar. Sigh. At least it's a petrol vRS so has a bit of poke.

 

I know I'm getting old.

 

I test drove a Superb Estate - absolutely loved the size and space, but it just didn't feel powerful enough, given what I was moving from, so that's how I ended up with the Octavia. Would have had the Superb if it had the same driving experience as the Octavia vRS though, I must say.

 

Am quite content with the DSG to be honest, it's a few years since I last drove an automatic, but it didn't take long to adapt again and to be honest I struggle with 'modern' cars. I prefer fairly basic cars without all the buttons and automation as I can't seem to get the feedback from the car, so if I have to drive a car that I can't really drive then a DSG does the job nicely. God, I really am old.

 

Go on, do it. 

Buy a Honda VFR 1200 DCT. bike and DSG all in one package!

Having been a strong avoider of autos, I am coming round to the idea.

The missus has just got an 8 speed auto 3 series and I must say it is bliss.

Buy a Honda VFR 1200 DCT. bike and DSG all in one package!

And you won't have to worry about a lack of power either!!

However, DSG in a car seems perfectly natural, but on a bike it's really weird at first. No clutch. I kept trying to pull it in every time I stopped. It took ages to not do it.

On the plus side, when you pull off from a standstill there's no shutting the throttle for gear changes. Just keep it pinned! :)

When I was in my 30s, young family and all that I'd have fancied a big cruising diesel with lots of space. I'm 48 now, and frankly the Octavia is too slow, too roly poly. I really could not live with a diesel powered car unless it had 6 or more cylinders. My next car will have to have a minimum of 300 bhp, 400Nm or torque, 4 wheel drive and at least two seats. I can't grow a ponytail as I've got no hair left, and my girlfriend is a brunette and is more than half my age. 

I was rather enchanted wafting around in an Auto Jag S type a little while back. there is something to be said for taking the chilled option. Doing it in a Jaaaaaag is probably necessary though.

I have also thought about a 4.2 audi A8, a phaeton stuff like that. Talking of jags, it would have to be an F Type

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Thanks for the replies

I should have bought that 3.6 v6 Superb for sale a few weeks ago but I was away for a bit and missed out on it.

Ive seen an octy thats fairly close to me so might go and have a look and possible test drive to see if I actually like it.

Nah you're not getting old.......just getting wiser. 

 

You need to leave any preconceived ideas about 'Auto' gearboxes at the door when it comes to DSG. It up shifts in 8 milliseconds...............you'd be lucky to up shift in 300 milliseconds in a manual......so in the real world the DSG is faster. 

I have also thought about a 4.2 audi A8, a phaeton stuff like that. Talking of jags, it would have to be an F Type

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XJR for me ;-)

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/jaguar-xjr-first-drive-top-gear-2013-08-22

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Yeah, I thought the same too a few weeks ago when I was contemplating buying my first DSG.

 

I have always driven manuals and always avoided autos like the plague.  My father has always driven autos and I have never liked them (Mazda's, Hondas and now a Kia)

 

When I sold my LE I couldn't find a manual FL in my price bracket with all the options I wanted.  I kept looking at a DSG on autotrader but kept discounting it because it was auto.

 

In the end out of pure frustration at not finding what I wanted,  I gave in and test drove a vRS DSG and loved it.  It is unlike any other auto I have ever driven, it is so smooth and effortless to drive.  I immediately fell in love with it, bought it and doubt I would return to a manual now.

 

I would definitely recommend the DSG particularly with the paddles. 99% of the time its in the correct gear but just occasionally when I feel it should be in a different gear I change it up or down using the paddles.  Also great to put in to sport mode occasionally and move up with the paddles for an exhilarating drive. 

I'm on my fourth automatic car and I see no reason ever to go back to rowing gears manually. It's pointless.

Im on my first DSG at 40+ but it can change gear faster and accelerate faster than I can from 1-2-3 in a manual

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Mike, have you driven a DSG? They're nothing like the buses you drive at work. 

Nah you're not getting old.......just getting wiser. 

 

You need to leave any preconceived ideas about 'Auto' gearboxes at the door when it comes to DSG. It up shifts in 8 milliseconds...............you'd be lucky to up shift in 300 milliseconds in a manual......so in the real world the DSG is faster. 

 

Couldn't agree more. My 2012 Octy Estate (140PS diesel) has DSG and not only does it change gear faster than I ever could, it knows what gear it wants too. Overtaking on a single carriageway road is far safer -- just put your right foot down hard. 

I test drove a DSG Octavia and hated it.  Always seemed to be in the wrong gear, juddering along with engine lug half the time (I hate that low frequency sound) and changing up just when I needed it to be in a lower gear. Sport, eco or normal, nothing seemed to fix things to drive like I wanted to drive. The whole experience made me feel motion sick, I didn't feel connected to the car at all.

 

So I bought a manual VRS and have been very happy. However I had to have a DSG replacement car for a week and despite the first journey making me feel sick again, after a while either the car learned (does this happen?) or I learned how to use it, and by the end I actually liked it. Overtaking was far easier and the irritatingly short first gear on the 6 speed box was no longer an issue.

 

So yeah, I will consider a DSG next time - I wonder how many other people have had a poor test drive like mine?

This is my fourth automatic ( ford granadas and Honda) the DSG box is the best I have ever had, changes faster and smoother than I could with a manual, sport mode is really what it says holding gear runs longer to full revs, with no worry of over reving. very rarely use the manual option as the box always seems to know what gear I want.

I think I am going to same way, went to look at another members car on here, it was DSG I was impressed,

DSG's are ace, you're not getting old, the old school torque converter types that......................change gear are............nothinglikeDSG'sthatchangeso quickly

Hahaha

Seriously, when I bought the S3 I lined up a test drive of a DSG and a manual, I didn't drive the manual, you do have to alter your driving style a little but love it to pieces still:-)

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I didn't think it would happen, but after many years being against them, I opted for the automatic when I bought my new car. Not regretted it one bit. I drove a manual for the first time in a few weeks and thought yeah, I'm not going back. I am going quite grey though.

 

Its not a DSG, but a CVT. That is a smooth gearbox

I test drove a DSG Octavia and hated it.  Always seemed to be in the wrong gear, juddering along with engine lug half the time (I hate that low frequency sound) and changing up just when I needed it to be in a lower gear. Sport, eco or normal, nothing seemed to fix things to drive like I wanted to drive. The whole experience made me feel motion sick, I didn't feel connected to the car at all.

 

So I bought a manual VRS and have been very happy. However I had to have a DSG replacement car for a week and despite the first journey making me feel sick again, after a while either the car learned (does this happen?) or I learned how to use it, and by the end I actually liked it. Overtaking was far easier and the irritatingly short first gear on the 6 speed box was no longer an issue.

 

So yeah, I will consider a DSG next time - I wonder how many other people have had a poor test drive like mine?

 

Yes, the DSG ECU learns and adapts to your particular driving style. If you drive it hard using kick down a lot for example you'll find it holding gears much longer and changing down at different points when driven normally.

I test drove a DSG Octavia and hated it.  Always seemed to be in the wrong gear, juddering along with engine lug half the time (I hate that low frequency sound) and changing up just when I needed it to be in a lower gear. 

 

Ha. I always use tall gears and low revs, unless I'm in a hurry of course. I love automatics (including DSGs) because they always try to select the tallest possible gear. It's exactly how I drive when in a manual. It's also one of the reasons I don't like manual diesel cars, because I invariably end up in a gear that's too tall for the turbo to spool when I put my foot down. 

 

I hate riding with someone that insist on keeping the revs up. Or to use your words, "being in the wrong gear". The other day someone gave me a lift in his Transit and I had to sit there for a couple of blocks listening to the 3000rpm drone of a 2.4 liter diesel. Arghghgh.

I totally understand that you hate the DSG if you want to keep the revs up. It fits me just fine, though.

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I totally understand that you hate the DSG if you want to keep the revs up. It fits me just fine, though.

 

 

In mine "Sport Mode" does exactly that - Keeps the revs up.

 

I discovered today the "2 stage accelerator" now I've gone over 1,000 miles. Put foot on floor it takes off and revs to 3,000, push even harder and it goes past a stop and really is on the floor reving to 4,000.