Right, off to France this year and will be spending a good amount of time on the beach.

Was thinking that I don't want to leave the yeti's keys on the beach. As the keys have to be kept dry. I was wondering if I got a spare key cut, without all the electrics in it (like a service key) I could then lock the proper key in the boot, along with valuables and use the service key to lock the car.

My question is would this work, and where could I get such a key from.

Thanks in advance for any help / suggestions

How would you arm the alarm if the "proper" keys were locked in the boot?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/BeachPlay-Waterproof-KeySafe-Armband-Watersport/dp/B002EOZ33O

How would you arm the alarm if the "proper" keys were locked in the boot?

 

Open the boot, hit the lock button, chuck the key in boot. Close the boot and the car will lock and the alarm will set. Not that I've ever done it myself. Ahem.

 

Though I'd suggest it'd be more sensible to lock 'em in the central cubby. No less secure, but less inconvenient. Actually, that water proof bag is more sensible still.

Edited 4 May, 201412 yr by Sporky McGuffin

How would you arm the alarm if the "proper" keys were locked in the boot?

Wouldn't you lock then unlock 'boot' only, toss key in, slam boot and it lock automatically?

And when you open the door with the "service" key the alarm will go off!

And when you open the door with the "service" key the alarm will go off!

I think after unlocking you have ~ 10 seconds to put the key into the ignition and turn it to pos I before the alarm sounds, Graham.

You do!

Some other marques actually design their keys to operate like this. My previous Mercedes, BMW and Volvos had separable keys, where you could remove the mechanical part from the electronic part in order to facilitate just this scenario.

How would you arm the alarm if the "proper" keys were locked in the boot?

Good point!

How would you arm the alarm if the "proper" keys were locked in the boot?

Surely slam-locking the boot does that very thing, you can hear it re-locking.

...and see the indicators flash.

I would never leave a key in the car, all it takes is an opportunist thief looking for satnavs / laptops etc., they find the key and you lose the whole car. Your insurance will not payout as you left the key in the car, so you'll have lost a lot more at the end of the day. Tourist cars are thief magnets here in Dorset, they stand out like a sore thumb.

Thanks everyone I like the idea of the waterproof bag, so will look at that instead of a spare key. Some valid points. Thanks once again

not quite the same, but is there a way of locking the vehicle with the tailgate still open? Am intending on having a tailgate guard so the dogs don't bake in the car, but not sure it will let me lock the rest of the doors without the alarm going off constantly due to the tailgate being open, anyone done this or know? 

not quite the same, but is there a way of locking the vehicle with the tailgate still open? Am intending on having a tailgate guard so the dogs don't bake in the car, but not sure it will let me lock the rest of the doors without the alarm going off constantly due to the tailgate being open, anyone done this or know? 

 

Sorry , but have I got this straight?

You want to lock your car but leave the hatch wide open for the dogs to get air?

Your insurance company will love you!!

 

And no you can't do what you suggest.

not quite the same, but is there a way of locking the vehicle with the tailgate still open? Am intending on having a tailgate guard so the dogs don't bake in the car, but not sure it will let me lock the rest of the doors without the alarm going off constantly due to the tailgate being open, anyone done this or know?

Yes there is. An extension is available which hooks onto the pin on the boot which the latch then connects to. Once set up it can't be remove without unlocking the boot on the key or fob. The alarm would probably arm with the interior sensors disarmed by the button on the door pillar as any sensors in the locking module would recognise the extension in the lock.

The alarm wouldn't arm if the doors couldn't lock so it won't keep going off.

I think I've seen them in the VW T5 accessories catalogue and on ebay. In fact a similar thing is available http://www.ventlock.com/tailgatelock.php

Edited 7 May, 201412 yr by ben4012

And no you can't do what you suggest.

This is incorrect.

Ben I think I know what you mean, they allow the tailgate to be locked open but only open a small amount, yes? I'm talking about tailgate guards, which basically are a full fixed tailgate set inside the vehicles one, but made of a solid wire mesh that bolts and has a lock on it, so they get the air but the car is still securely locked, like a fitted dog crate/cage, so not something that someone can easily get through to open the vehicle, especially when behind the guard are also 2 large dogs, one of whom will take your hand off if you try to open the aforementioned locked cage! not just a case of leaving the tailgate open Llanigraham, I'm a dog lover, not a total idiot!!

 

this sort of thing

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/111418-vectra-barjo-double-door-tailgate-guard-divder-seat-guard/

Edited 7 May, 201412 yr by adarajames

Wow!

You learn something new every day. V interesting.

This is incorrect.

 

So explain why I am wrong instead of making a 3 word reply, then we can all learn from my mistake.

 

 

Sorry adarajames, but that wasn't obvious from your original question. 

Llanigraham, I typed in tailgate guard assuming that its not just agility / dog show people that know about them, that others did too, hence my edit to add more detail / pic to fill in those that didn't know. So, is there  a way of doing this do you think?

Sorry, even having run a pet shop for 7 years I hadn't heard of the tailgate guard. (and I was reply to your pre-edit post  )

 

Now I have, I think it might be possible by either locking the car with the key directly in the door or pressing the B post button before closing the drivers door and locking with the remote. You need to turn off the internal sensor, which this will do.

great, thanks, will have to give that a go once it arrives

Yep - that's what I'd assumed from the first reference to tailgate lock extension that Ben made.  My sister has one for her Astra Estate, to keep her Weimararners(sp?) and Spaniels ventilated when parked at dog shows. Essentially a metal bar about 6" long that latches into the existing tailgate latch recess/peg at the lower end, then at the upper end, mimics the same latch peg for the tailgate to lock onto. In use, it props the tailgate open a few inches, while still allowing the tailgate to be firmly latched and locked.  I guess it would still be possible/legal to drive like that for a short journey, as the number plate, window, etc. are all perfectly visible from behind with the tailgate in that position.  Although I would personally be dubious about fumes being drawn back into the vehicle by the vortex effect behind a moving Yeti (judging by the road cr4p that gets sucked onto the lower tailgate panel of mine).  [Although that effect is nowhere near so bad on the Yet as on the Renault Scenic that preceded it mind!] 

 

As distinct from a bumper guard, that I've got.  A piece of stick-on plastic that sits atop the upper surface of the bumper - the section that is prone to getting scratched as animals and other objects (like the dog cage), gets hauled in and out of the boot. Extends the full width of the tailgate, by about 3" front to back. Fits right under the tailgate rubber door seal at its forward edge, then folds over the rear crease of the bumper for about 1cm (mixed measurements!) at its rear edge.  Very snug fit and a perfect match for the existing bumper colour (black) on mine.  Does make the tailgate just come into direct contact with said guard when fully closed though...... 

Edited 8 May, 201412 yr by FlintstoneR1