..and judging by the pictures on here are nice bright colours so they can be easily spotted at PDI

But they are hiding under the shaft bellows / gaiters. 

Its quite possible the PD guy doesn't know that Skoda have changed from the spring blocks to the damper donuts.  Note that Ski1 visted the dealer sevral times before they spotted it.

 

I used to run a PD department for a Toyota dealer & we were the last to be told about any workshop campaigns, TSBs or production changes.

Bit surprised by these comments - I've come to my Elegance w/ standard suspension after several sportier cars, but would not think to complain about the comfort.

Just to be sure, do people mean:

-- Harsh - where bumps crash through the car. Like you would get if the suspension was just too hard for the chassis.

-- Hard/firm - you just get jostled around too much.

I can see why someone used to Jags and Citroens might find it a bit firm, but I struggle to think of it as harsh. Something isn't right I don't think if it really is harsh and crashy.

 

I agree, not hard at all, but too wallowy and rolls too much in corners - it lets you know in no uncertain terms that it isn't sporty and doesn't like press on driving down twisty roads. That's not a criticism as it doesn't pretend to be a sports saloon. Nothing like as firm as a BMW 3 series M sport (without adaptive suspension).

Get yourself a Golf 7 shocks!

I have change at the rear only the 2 shocks to a brand new ORIGINAL Golf 7 shocks. They fit perfectly. The car is more like a Citroen now. Make sure that you are buying the correct ones i.e. the one for the one suspention bar, or the separate suspention(slight differece in length).

For the front, you can get yourself the whole shock/spring of the Golf 7, only if you are realy sensitive. The comfort color code is  BLUE BLUE.

Soft and cushioned ride quality is what i say. If the damping is poor then point the finger at the budget springs and dampers. These are built to a price.

Get yourself a Golf 7 shocks!

I have change at the rear only the 2 shocks to a brand new ORIGINAL Golf 7 shocks. They fit perfectly. The car is more like a Citroen now. Make sure that you are buying the correct ones i.e. the one for the one suspention bar, or the separate suspention(slight differece in length).

For the front, you can get yourself the whole shock/spring of the Golf 7, only if you are realy sensitive. The comfort color code is  BLUE BLUE.

Wouldn't it make sense to have an "official VW group to MkIII Octavia part list thread"?

This is something I've wondered since buying my car. If the Golf and the Octavia are built on the same platform and the Golf has a noticeably smoother ride, can you switch components? Looks like the answer is yes!

 

Can changing the shocks alone make such a difference?

This is something I've wondered since buying my car. If the Golf and the Octavia are built on the same platform and the Golf has a noticeably smoother ride, can you switch components? Looks like the answer is yes!

 

Can changing the shocks alone make such a difference?

I'm hoping so. On the brink of ordering Eibach Pro kit and Bilstein B4 shocks, got a couple of quotes, just waiting for supplying dealer to quote before I decide who to go with. Best price at the mo for the parts from well known online specialist is £407 delivered plus £80 fitting by a local Indy garage. All the independent advice I've had leads me to believe the OEM dampers and springs just aren't the best components available, so fingers crossed my plan will work for me!

I'm hoping so. On the brink of ordering Eibach Pro kit and Bilstein B4 shocks, got a couple of quotes, just waiting for supplying dealer to quote before I decide who to go with. Best price at the mo for the parts from well known online specialist is £407 delivered plus £80 fitting by a local Indy garage. All the independent advice I've had leads me to believe the OEM dampers and springs just aren't the best components available, so fingers crossed my plan will work for me!

I'm struggling to remember who said there was no point throwing good money after bad! If £500 isn't good money, you must be getting paid too much

Anyway, you can act as guinea pig (do you have a cage?) and let me know what its like. Think I may be better off putting the 500 smackers towards an XF though :coffee:

 

Now the actual question. Is the Eibach pro kit the actual springs? You changing all 4 springs and shocks? Sorry, Im no suspension expert, unless of course its suspended on the sea :p

Will any of this change the look of the car? ie funny coloured shocks that stand out 200 mile away, or lowering the car at all?

 

Can changing the shocks alone make such a difference?

Yes!

I have the 1.4 TSI Elegance DSG Kombi (single rear suspention bar)since new.

From the beginning i had a real headache as a result of the ride quality .

After measuring the dimensions, i've ordered via ebay the two original shocks of the Golf 7 Hatch(not estate) .

The original springs left unchanged.

The difference is huge!

The car has a super ride now.

Eibach pro kit will be four springs. It will lower the car however I've never seen a car that has funny colour suspension components you can see without looking under it??

I think there is misunderstanding here.

The color code containe two color dots or more on the original vw springs.

These dots represents the stiffness level.

If you are looking for ride comfort, then you must keep the original springs.

The shocks at the rear coming out very easy after removing the wheel.

You will need 17mm nut for the wheel, 18mm nut for the bottom screw, and 16mm nut for the two screws on top.

Enjoy the ride.

I'm struggling to remember who said there was no point throwing good money after bad! If £500 isn't good money, you must be getting paid too much

Anyway, you can act as guinea pig (do you have a cage?) and let me know what its like. Think I may be better off putting the 500 smackers towards an XF though :coffee:

Now the actual question. Is the Eibach pro kit the actual springs? You changing all 4 springs and shocks? Sorry, Im no suspension expert, unless of course its suspended on the sea :p

Will any of this change the look of the car? ie funny coloured shocks that stand out 200 mile away, or lowering the car at all?

I know, keep blowing hot and cold over this. £500 over the next 2 yrs will work out less than £0.01 per mile for me and the tax man will effectively cover the cost in less than 6 months from my business mileage tax relief, so just got to look at it as a free mod!

Eibach Pro do lower by 30mm but they are black in colour so not too chavvy! As the standard OEM springs are like stilts, I think it will improve the stance of the car. I'm led to believe that even though they lower they are more progressive than the OEM standard springs so comfort not affected too much, perhaps a bit less roll round the corners, but they are not the full on sports springs. I don't mind a firm ride, it is the harsh crashy nature of the original set up that is the issue. Also B4 shocks are the Bilstein OEM equivalent, black in colour and supposedly a good upgrade over OEM damping wise, some say 10-30% improvement so read into that what you like!. It would be the B6s that are firmer and bright yellow!

Any chance of some OEM part numbers? It would help take some guesswork out of the discussions....

I've requested a quote for a set of Golf rear shocks. I'll let you know if I get some part numbers.

I know, keep blowing hot and cold over this. £500 over the next 2 yrs will work out less than £0.01 per mile for me and the tax man will effectively cover the cost in less than 6 months from my business mileage tax relief, so just got to look at it as a free mod!

Eibach Pro do lower by 30mm but they are black in colour so not too chavvy! As the standard OEM springs are like stilts, I think it will improve the stance of the car. I'm led to believe that even though they lower they are more progressive than the OEM standard springs so comfort not affected too much, perhaps a bit less roll round the corners, but they are not the full on sports springs. I don't mind a firm ride, it is the harsh crashy nature of the original set up that is the issue. Also B4 shocks are the Bilstein OEM equivalent, black in colour and supposedly a good upgrade over OEM damping wise, some say 10-30% improvement so read into that what you like!. It would be the B6s that are firmer and bright yellow!

Not sure the new springs would do anything for me then. My problem is the fact the suspension system cant take the firm setup. I don't have the crashiness as such anymore. If anything just new shocks would do it for me.

According to a local VW dealer, the part number for the rear shocks is 5QO513029DQ and they're around £73.00 inc. VAT.

According to a local VW dealer, the part number for the rear shocks is 5QO513029DQ and they're around £73.00 inc. VAT.

At that price, it would be a no brainer, go for a pair or full set of Bi!stein B4s, they are around £60 each inc. VAT and supposedly an upgrade in quality over the Sachs that are fitted by the factory.

At that price, it would be a no brainer, go for a pair or full set of Bi!stein B4s, they are around £60 each inc. VAT and supposedly an upgrade in quality over the Sachs that are fitted by the factory.

Even less. About £53 inclusive of VAT. So much better value than these Golf shocks.

Think this local VW dealer was just trying to 'shock' Spacenase

Edited 6 March, 201511 yr by JungleJames

Somebody just get some and fit and lets see if this will calm down the backend, mine makes some very odd noises even before I get to the car limits.

Is this a problem from the start, or something that happens with time?

Or am I so used to plodding round in a panel van that is seems lovely in mine ? :-D

The one that i've got via ebay is original Golf 7: 5q0 513 049 cq.

As i mentioned before the ride comfort is now superb . I can hardly believe that the oem manufactures can get to this level of comfort , hence i reccomend the original only.

I've paid for mine arround 32.EU each, and they fit for the rear single tortion bar suspention system.

Good luck.

Sachs dampers....as an OEM thats pretty good in my book.

Have to say whilst its definitely a bit firmer than I expected (possibly in part to the 45 section 17" tyres, car I tested had 16's and was a bit softer) its not bad at all and considerably more compliant than my Mk2 vRS was....that was verging on being a bit of a bonebreaker in truth.

However mine is a MY14 car and not one of the earlier launch vehicles so could account for the lack of problems. Many of the very early cars have seems to suffer a few build/electrical gremlins (if Andyvees Elegance estate was anything to go by).

I don't have a major problem with the ride, but it is firmer than I'd like and I know the Golf is better, hence looking at whether Golf suspension parts will improve things. I'm not sure if there is any difference, but I did tell the VW dealership I had a 2.0 diesel Golf (thanks to a reg. no. on Autotrader).

Somebody just get some and fit and lets see if this will calm down the backend, mine makes some very odd noises even before I get to the car limits.

We just need someone to buy Matt his new cage so he can act as guinea pig.

Bare in mind he will probably go the whole hog though and replace springs as well, as by the sounds of it, his car has a pretty bad suspension.

Somebody just get some and fit and lets see if this will calm down the backend, mine makes some very odd noises even before I get to the car limits.

We just need someone to buy Matt his new cage so he can act as guinea pig.

Bare in mind he will probably go the whole hog though and replace springs as well, as by the sounds of it, his car has a pretty bad suspension.

Right, I've made up my mind, got a firm quote from Demon Tweeks for Eibach Pro kit and Bilstein B4s. Going to order them on Monday, just need to decide if I get the dealer to fit or save another £100 and use a local grease monkey to fit for £80 who appears to be an expert on modding cars judging by his own lowered Corsa VXR!

If anyone else is looking at DT website be aware that the part nos listed for O3 are incorrect. When I called them up they contacted Bilstein and Eibach directly to check part nos. The correct shocks are on 2 weeks back order from Germany, but after a bit of haggling I can get all 4 corners for £165 which is less than the parts they were listing, also Pro kit is £200 plus £5 delivery. I could probably save £10 by ordering the springs elsewhere but the guy at DT was very helpful and has done a stonking deal on the shocks.