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real world octavia vrs diesel mpg figures

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hi

 

I have just recently changed my job, which now means a commute of about 30 miles each way of mostly motorway driving. I am currently driving a fabia monte carlo 1.2 tsi and getting between 40 and 45 mpg and wondering what in the real world, everyone is getting out of the diesel vrs.

 

the model i would be getting would be the manual version.

 

 

 

You should see upto 55mpg with those kind of journeys.

30 miles of merseyside motorway at rush hour?

 

If it is anything like the 30 miles I do round the M60 daily I get between 50 and 60 on a CR150 (non-vRS) DSG

Just travelled from Manchester to East Yorkshire today, an indicated 75mph, on cruise control, 57.5mpg for the 85 miles! Manual vRS tdi. I'm a happy man, especially as it's barely run in (1300 miles on the clock).

5600 miles and 52 mpg ave that's commuting and everything else. My 45 mile suburban, motorway, open road, forest run to get to mountain biking averages about 50mph, but the majority is at 62mph which is the speed limit here on Cruise control in 6th, gets a minimum of 57mpg (>20kml) easy.

I commute across the Pennines each day, A and B roads up n down hills - averaging 51mpg in the morning, 48 evening (as the traffic is heavier)

2014 skoda vrs tdi estate:

 

motorway , depending on traffic , best record is 65 MPG on 44 miles journey, average 55 - 60

I find these figures disappointing I have to say.

 

I have a DSG mkII vRS hatch and I regularly get 55-60mpg on the motorway at 65-70mph (measured - readout is usually 1-2mpg optimistic).

 

Therefore, I don't understand how the mkII has taken the game forwards with all the efficiency improvements they have supposedly introduced (such as the energy recovery stuff)??

 

Is the major difference actually around town where both CR models could have issues anyway due to the DPF? (not that I have, incidentally)

 

The "extra urban" mpg for the manual mkIII vRS CR is indicated as 78mpg, and for the DSG is 65mpg - for the mkII DSG it is 60mpg (which I can get close to on the motorway, yet can't seem to be done with the mkIII?)

 

Also, I don't understand how the DSG kills the top end cruising mpg by 13mpg - aren't the gear ratios in 6th the same?

 

Surely the losses through the DSG wouldn't account for that much difference?

 

Hmmm...............

 

H

I find these figures disappointing I have to say.

 

I have a DSG mkII vRS hatch and I regularly get 55-60mpg on the motorway at 65-70mph (measured - readout is usually 1-2mpg optimistic).

 

 

But you can't compare the mpg you get in your mkII to what someone else gets in a mkIII as the biggest factor in fuel economy is how a car is driven.  My mkIII is noticeably better than my mkII was.

But you can't compare the mpg you get in your mkII to what someone else gets in a mkIII as the biggest factor in fuel economy is how a car is driven.  My mkIII is noticeably better than my mkII was.

 

That's fine Neily, but I was reading the posts and people are generally stating the speeds at which they achieve these mpg figures.

 

I was just expecting people to be saying that on the motorway at 65-70mph, they were getting low 70's mpg over long distances.

 

That is what I would expect as an uplift to the mkII, personally.

 

Around town, I would expect a much bigger difference due to the stop-start system - I generally get around 35mpg, depending on how much waiting I have to do, which can reduce it to 30mpg, but I would think the mkIII would be getting low 40's mpg even in fairly heavy traffic conditions, and probably 45mpg in general (so a 30% uplift).

 

Maybe I am over-optimistic about the improvements though?

 

H

I've now done just over 12k (since March) and average 52mpg and believe me I "drive" it. 

 

On longer trips I have AVERAGED over 62MPG and that's on scenic A/B roads in Scotland so cruise control is out of the window.

 

Overall I couldn't be happier with the car :)

I've now done just over 12k (since March) and average 52mpg and believe me I "drive" it. 

 

On longer trips I have AVERAGED over 62MPG and that's on scenic A/B roads in Scotland so cruise control is out of the window.

 

Overall I couldn't be happier with the car :)

 

Excellent, thanks Cossiecol.

I'm averaging 47mpg after 9k miles, almost all of it in 6th gear on motorways so the claims of 50mpg+ are mystifying to me!

I have done 4k since March and its had roof bars on with 2 bike carriers and regularly 2 mountain bikes car does 50mpg

Before I put them on probably the first 1k it was averaging around 58mpg I would say 75% motorway miles the rest around town

Edited by LeighG

3000 miles so run in now.  Apart from one long trip all of my mileage is in town but still a disappointing 30MPG average (on the display).  My old Fabia vRS (measured on the brimmed tank method) got around 37.  

3000 miles so run in now.

 

Run in yes .... bedded down no ;)

You have to be getting around the 10k mark before the engine is fully bedded down and giving you the best figures. IMO of course, based on experience of the last 2 cars I had from new.

 

For the O.P. 1100 miles of mixed driving, no motorways yet. Just A and B roads and local short town hops. average on computer (which I think is pretty close) since new is showing 47+

For the record, the last car was a 1.2 Octy estate MKII, and at 10k miles I was averaging 42 on the same runs, took over 7000 miles before it broke above 40 consistently.

With the hols soon coming, will be nice to see what she does on a long run of motorways and dual carriageways.

I've averaged 40.5 MPG on the first 4.5k miles. TDi DSG...mostly B & A roads. 

 

Have seen average of 57 on a long motorway run, 4 up and estate boot full. 

That's fine Neily, but I was reading the posts and people are generally stating the speeds at which they achieve these mpg figures.

 

I was just expecting people to be saying that on the motorway at 65-70mph, they were getting low 70's mpg over long distances.

 

That is what I would expect as an uplift to the mkII, personally.

 

Around town, I would expect a much bigger difference due to the stop-start system - I generally get around 35mpg, depending on how much waiting I have to do, which can reduce it to 30mpg, but I would think the mkIII would be getting low 40's mpg even in fairly heavy traffic conditions, and probably 45mpg in general (so a 30% uplift).

 

Maybe I am over-optimistic about the improvements though?

 

H

 

I have to agree with Neily, the biggest factor on determining fuel economy is the driver. (a smooth driver can easily make 20-30% difference with the same car)

On the motorway at 65mpg its definately possible to get instantaneous figures of 60-65mpg in the MkIII but I imagine the figures people are quoting are "averaged" over all driving.

Theres a big difference between lots of 20mile journeys at 65mph & one 500mile journey at 65mph.

Wind, gradient, temperature all have a noticable difference.

Also remember that the MkIII vRS diesel is more powerful than the MkII which will also have an effect on fuel economy for most people.

 

However, while I would expect a few MPG improvement over the MkII I wouldn't expect such a hugh leap for the MkIII.

Energy recovery savings (charging the battery during decel or braking) will be measured over months/years not tanks.

Stop/Start is only useful if you spend lots of time at stationary idle (I've read that Stop/Start is only energy neutral when you are stopped for ~20s when using a conventional starting system like VAG).

 

From the comments here & in other threads I've not heard anyone who is unhappy with the fuel economy from any of the new MkII diesels (1.6, 2.0 or vRS 2.0) or even the TSI petrol engine which are also very good.

 

However, the best way to know for sure is to try to arrange an extended test drive and test in yourself.

Given the figures you achieve in your MkII (quite a bit higher than the average on Fuelly), I'm sure you will be happy with the Mk3 also.

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