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Hi, I would appreciate any help or advice anyone can offer here before I go off to my dealer for a diagnosis.

I recently bought my '09 Superb II 2.0 170 TDi Elegance but when I bought it from the independent car dealer there was a message on the display for 'no bend lighting' and 'check dipped beam bulb' and the bulb failure light was on. The dealer chap said is would be the bulb and I recently replaced the xenon bulb but the problem still exists. I checked all the connections which are fine, but I did notice a little condensation in the unit once when it was wet.

I put VCDS on it to extract the fault codes and this is what came out:

 

Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 A    HW: 1K0 937 087 A
   Component: BCM PQ35  H+  020 0360 
   Revision: 00020000   
   Coding: 48990AB8D841F1C040080084110089A401711BAE632085605C4040000000
   Shop #: WSC 25031 210 95395
   VCID: 2F6DF5377EE897663D9-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3T2 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 01120  22  0602
   Coding: 00D7B7

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 031208 05  54  0402
   Coding: 0730ED

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 D
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H08 9001

1 Fault Found:
00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 92
                    Reset counter: 184
                    Mileage: 112792 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2058.14.28
                    Time: 14:32:32

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.35 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

 

Address 55: Xenon Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C    HW: 5M0 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0136 
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:              
   Coding: 1377095
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 3467FA5B57CEB4BE40B-8061

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0004 
   Coding: 00000021

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: ID-R fehlt 
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    .... 
   Coding: 00000255

9 Faults Found:
00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31)
            014 - Defective
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101110
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 184
                    Mileage: 116780 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2060.14.27
                    Time: 21:30:52

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 12.07 V
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        ABS 1

02071 - Local Databus
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101110
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 213
                    Mileage: 112991 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2059.14.00
                    Time: 18:22:13

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 14.06 V
                    Speed: 111.8 km/h
                        ABS 1

02233 - Left Headlight Power Output Stage (J667)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 213
                    Mileage: 114058 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2059.14.13
                    Time: 22:52:01

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 14.06 V
                    Speed: 117.0 km/h
                        ABS 1

01042 - Control Module; Not Coded
            000 - - - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        Invalid
                        Invalid
                        Invalid

02656 - Power Output Stage for Left Headlight (J667); Not Coded
            000 - - - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        Invalid
                        Invalid
                        Invalid

02657 - Power Output Stage for Right Headlight (J668); Not Coded
            000 - - - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        Invalid
                        Invalid
                        Invalid

01539 - Headlights Not Adjusted
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100101
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        Invalid
                        Invalid
                        Invalid

02234 - Right Headlight Power Output Stage (J668)
            014 - Defective - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101110
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Mileage: 113858 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2059.14.13
                    Time: 20:53:10

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 13.92 V
                    Speed: 98.8 km/h
                        ABS 1

02234 - Right Headlight Power Output Stage (J668)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101110
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Mileage: 113858 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2059.14.13
                    Time: 20:53:10

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 13.92 V
                    Speed: 98.8 km/h
                        ABS 1

 

I am thinking it is a fault in the controller but before I try and source another headlight unit I would like to be as sure as I can. Also before I take the bumper off as this looks like a bit of a task too.

 

Any advice gratefully received.

 

Many thanks,

 

Doug

The moisture inside the headlight would be a pointer for me, corrosion can cause issues with the adjustable elements of the headlight. It has been discussed over on the Octavia II forum a few times.

 

Moisture isn't always an issue, it says in the manual it can occur naturally, but even in very wet weather I've never noticed it on mine.

 

Just out of curiosity will the selling dealer not fix it for you considering the fault was present prior to purchase?

  • Author

Possibly, I would like to identify the issue before going back to the seller as I bought the car from Leicester and I live in Surrey so I can't just pop back for them to diagnose, but if I can say it is X then it would be easier and I don't mind making one trip.

I wondered if the fault codes pointed to a failing component or another problem such as a broken cable or something.

 

Many thanks,

 

Doug

When you replaced the bulb did you also do a fault clear with the VCDS?

  • Author

Thanks I have read through that thread before, it is not so relevant to me as the issue was an after market unit without the controller, mine is a genuine. It could be that it has water ingress or a faulty sensor though, but reading the fault codes to me it looks like a problem with the controller as VCDS is unable to query it.

Is clearing the codes after changing the bulb likely to have any effect? I could try that.

Thanks I have read through that thread before, it is not so relevant to me as the issue was an after market unit without the controller, mine is a genuine. It could be that it has water ingress or a faulty sensor though, but reading the fault codes to me it looks like a problem with the controller as VCDS is unable to query it.

Is clearing the codes after changing the bulb likely to have any effect? I could try that.

 

 

Not sure if it still applies but Xenon bulbs when being replaced used to need to be set to the home position i.e straight and level by VCDS, it might be worth a look at if it's not set right and thus sending a fault code regardless, let us know how you get on.

  • Author

I have cleared the fault codes and these still exist:

 

Control Module Part Number: 5M0 907 357 C    HW: 5M0 907 357 C
  Component and/or Version: AFS-Steuergeraet    0136
           Software Coding: 1377095
            Work Shop Code: WSC 35110 377 00999
           Additional Info: 7L6941329B  AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0004   ID-R fehlt  AFS-Lst.-Modul r    ....  
                      VCID: 3467FA5B57CEB4BE40B-8061
6 Faults Found:

02234 - Right Headlight Power Output Stage (J668)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Mileage: 116901 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2061.14.04
                    Time: 16:22:56

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 11.64 V
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        ABS 1

00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31)
            014 - Defective
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101110
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Mileage: 116901 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2061.14.04
                    Time: 16:22:56

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 11.64 V
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        ABS 1

01042 - Control Module; Not Coded
            000 - - - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        Invalid
                        Invalid
                        Invalid

02656 - Power Output Stage for Left Headlight (J667); Not Coded
            000 - - - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        Invalid
                        Invalid
                        Invalid

02657 - Power Output Stage for Right Headlight (J668); Not Coded
            000 - - - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        Invalid
                        Invalid
                        Invalid

01539 - Headlights Not Adjusted
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100101
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        Invalid
                        Invalid
                        Invalid

 

So it looks to me like there may be a problem with the right controller as it is giving a fault trying to give the information for it 'ID-R fehlt'.

  • 1 year later...

 

So it looks to me like there may be a problem with the right controller as it is giving a fault trying to give the information for it 'ID-R fehlt'.

Hi, 

 

Did you find any solution for this?

I have just retrofitttet Xenon on my Octavia and get these errors.

My Modules seem fine.

I am not able to do any codings on the AFS module at the moment - all trys is refused!?

 

Jonny

 

Tuesday,01,October,2013,10:49:38:40973

VCDS Version: Release 12.12.0

Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl

Control Module Part Number: 5M0 907 357 C HW: 5M0 907 357 C

Component and/or Version: AFS-Steuergeraet 0142

Software Coding: 1507354

Work Shop Code: WSC 73430 790 00999

Additional Info: ID-L fehlt AFS-Lst.-Modul l .... ID-R fehlt AFS-Lst.-Modul r ....  

VCID: 3467FA52579B62BE40B-8061

Fault Codes have been Erased

6 Faults Found:

02233 - Left Headlight Power Output Stage (J667) 

004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 11100100

Fault Priority: 6

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 254

Mileage: 72043 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2061.14.13

Time: 10:49:01

Freeze Frame:

Voltage: 11.22 V

Speed: 0.0 km/h

ABS 1

02234 - Right Headlight Power Output Stage (J668) 

004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 11100100

Fault Priority: 6

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 254

Mileage: 72043 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2061.14.13

Time: 10:49:01

Freeze Frame:

Voltage: 11.22 V

Speed: 0.0 km/h

ABS 1

01042 - Control Module; Not Coded 

000 - - - MIL ON

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 11100000

Fault Priority: 2

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 254

Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:

Invalid

Invalid

Invalid

02656 - Power Output Stage for Left Headlight (J667); Not Coded 

000 - - - MIL ON

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 11100000

Fault Priority: 2

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 254

Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:

Invalid

Invalid

Invalid

02657 - Power Output Stage for Right Headlight (J668); Not Coded 

000 - - - MIL ON

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 11100000

Fault Priority: 2

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 254

Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:

Invalid

Invalid

Invalid

01539 - Headlights Not Adjusted 

005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - MIL ON

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 11100101

Fault Priority: 3

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 254

Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:

Invalid

Invalid

Invalid

 
  • Author

My problem was actually the control unit in the headlight, I ended up putting in a replacement one but still needed a new control unit (£200!). There are two control boxes on the Xenon headlights (I thought there was only the one), one is the high voltage for the bulbs, the other is the control unit.

Ouch, that was expensive! And i have error on both of them! :-(
For the look of it, it do no look if there is some kind of intelligence built in to the high voltage one, like in the other one!? (CanBus)

 

Thanks for your reply

 

Jonny

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