There are a lot of cars way faster than a vrs. It reads as if some owners are in denial of this. Does a forum just exist for the vrs members only. There are other cars in the range! A vrs is not a rapid car. Fact. A tdi vrs is even less of a rapid car. Drive some other brands to realise this.

I think you will find the vRS TDi is a rapid car (with tuning box!!), but it is not a 'Fast' car.  Although 150mph is fine for me!! Flat out I can hold my friends M6 (although that may be due to BMW speed limiters!!), admittedly his 540bhp gets him there quicker!!    

 

Agree this forum is not just about vRS, but this topic is!!  

I got to drive an Audi TTRS last weekend, which put the acceleration of the VRS in perspective! Made me want that straight 5 engine in almost any car - it's just so... exciting. Offbeat thrum, roar, howl, pop, bang, screech and hiss! Still, the VRS especially in petrol form will out accelerate 80% of the cars on the road, and that's enough for me. I just wish it made the same (real) noise as the Audi.

The 1.8TSI FWD (180hp) with DSG is rated at 7.2 in Norway at least. Feels faster than the VRS diesel as well... Might be the  VRS is heaver for some reason?

 

 

The Finnish and German spec sheets say 7,5 s for both FWD and 4x4 (7,8 s for the Scout).

 

 

The Norwegians eat less sausage? 

Those figures are rollocks. 4wd and fractionally heavier (ok by 3kgs hardly anything) real world I really do not think will translate into a 1.1 sec 0-100kmh/62mph advantage over the fwd RS DSG.

Id wager the 4wd time is optimistic and the fwd time way off the mark personally given vRS TDIs have been timed comfortably sub 8 secs and they'll be barely slower than the marginally lighter Leon FR and GTD that post 7.5secs.

One question with all this...... When does 0-60 times come into real world driving? I can remember when I've had to accelerate as fast as possible to 60.....

One question with all this...... When does 0-60 times come into real world driving? I can remember when I've had to accelerate as fast as possible to 60.....

V true Neily.....how this is being discussed is a bit of a ****ing contest between regular 184 4x4/Scout and RS owners (which I dont really care about myself)....just I think the fact remains that the official figures between the two cars cant be right and is yet another Skoda literature error IMHO.

I'd love to know how a chipped 184PS diesel would compare betwen 2wd and 4wd.

Especially on cold, greasy or wet roads and roundabouts, rather then on a dry track.

Is the gearing on scout and VRS the same? or does the scout have a lower final drive ratio?

Also, manufacturers posted times will be goverened more by the marketing department than by the stopwatch - they will make a point of the figures within the range and between marques matching up to their sales plan...

I'd love to know how a chipped 184PS diesel would compare betwen 2wd and 4wd.

Especially on cold, greasy or wet roads and roundabouts, rather then on a dry track.

Is the gearing on scout and VRS the same? or does the scout have a lower final drive ratio?

Also, manufacturers posted times will be goverened more by the marketing department than by the stopwatch - they will make a point of the figures within the range and between marques matching up to their sales plan...

I just think that you take two cars with the same powerplants...weigh practically the same (though the 2wd is ever so slightly lighter)...same gearbox but 2wd v 4wd.....I cant see personally how the 4wd will be more than a second quicker to 100kmh myself. I could understand a few splits but over a second just doesnt make sense to me....unless the vRS was tested in the rain and the 4x4 in bone dry conditions..then its probably achievable :-)

Lower gearing would explain it, but not sure if thats the case.

I'm not sure at what point the limiting factor changes from grip to power/weight ratio.

I'm working on the theory that every time the traction control kicks in on my mk1 - then on a 4wd I'd still happily be pulling away - that was convincing enough for me.

I do think that in most of my personal real-world situations the 4wd will be quicker than the 2wd. I may be totally correct, or it may just be my new cognitive/confirmation bias to support the fact I have just bought a 4wd

We all choose different cars with different specs for our own satisfaction, whether it is performance or economy, consumption, looks, space or..... whatever. The fact is that everyone will stand up for and promote their choice and the positive aspects of their car.

Anyway, the 1,8 TSI engine (my choice) has a different mapping when combined with 4x4: 280 Nm instead of 250 Nm. This is done to compensate for extra drivetrain weight and recistance. The 7-speed DSG cannot cope with this torque and consequently these cars has the 6-speed wet clutch DSG. The performance of my car is astonishing, also when the condition isn't the best. I cannot compare with a vRS, but I would definitvely call mine a "sleeper".

https://youtu.be/CZu8G3XkFx8

Lower gearing would explain it, but not sure if thats the case.

I'm not sure at what point the limiting factor changes from grip to power/weight ratio.

I'm working on the theory that every time the traction control kicks in on my mk1 - then on a 4wd I'd still happily be pulling away - that was convincing enough for me.

I do think that in most of my personal real-world situations the 4wd will be quicker than the 2wd. I may be totally correct, or it may just be my new cognitive/confirmation bias to support the fact I have just bought a 4wd

Traction is probably the answer, as you say.

Was at a dragrace yesterday, and a Saab 9-3 really proved that point. That car had no Traction taking off.

Same with the Tesla, when he turned off tractioncontrol, he just did a 100meter burnout without gaining much speed.

Which is Faster in Snow? :-0 :-0

There's really only one good way to sort this discussion...

 

http://www.javelintrackdays.co.uk/trackday/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=296&Itemid=901

 

;-)

I am sure I have read many complaints in this forum from vRS owners about the lack of traction especially during initial acceleration.

Isn't an improved LSD the major improvement to the new halo Octavia?

Edited 1 June, 201511 yr by Gerrycan

interesting read this - looks like people getting het up over something that in the real world makes naff all difference.

 

However, as a long term owner of a tweaked Octy II TDi 4x4 (non-Scout) I'd go 4x4 every time.  It is absolutely planted in every day driving, has no traction issues and, come the twisties you can feel the back end helping where the front would normally wash wide in a FWD.  And that's before we get to the state of the UK road network or bad weather....